Promote Softcore/NN sites in the US? Think you're safe from 2257? WRONG!

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  • Dameian
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 122

    #1

    Promote Softcore/NN sites in the US? Think you're safe from 2257? WRONG!

    hahahah I am reading this article about the bill that "strengthens" 2257 and I am laughing my ass off at the potential ramifications of it.

    http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10343

    If you don't want to read the above, here is the executive summary: "Among other provisions ... adds nudity and clothed images of pubic areas to the definition of ?explicit sexual activity? as defined in U.S.C. 18 ยง 2256, and criminalizes the production and distribution of R-rated mainstream motion pictures that fail to comply with the record creation and notice provisions of 2257..."

    Not just mere nudity would become illegal, but also clothed areas of the pubic area? hahahah Do you realize who this potentially turns into criminal violators? Here is a short list off the top of my head. The creators of:

    1. baby diaper commercials and print ads
    2. cosmo/glamor mag (they always have bare butt shots of women in ads)
    3. many, if not the majority of PG-R rates movies these days
    4. most music videos
    5. underwear commericals and print ads
    6. everything involving Victoria's Secret marketing
    7. journalists coverage of fashion shows
    8. SI swimsuit issue
    9. and be careful taking home pictures/movies of your newborns/infants/toddlers... post them on a homepage that has a commercial banner on it to share with family and friends and you're a violator too!

    The list goes on and on. Not to metion anyone and everyone who distributes or publishes these things would also need 2257 documentation.

    The activities that this bill would potentially criminalize are completely insane, will cause us all a lot of headaches until it is sorted out in the courts, and is also fucking great for comic relief right now despite all of that.... Thanks Mike Pence!
  • Patrick_Bateman
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2004
    • 280

    #2
    here is a bump for ya

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    • dready
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 5247

      #3
      Who is this {Rep Mike Pence, R-Ind.} nut bar?
      ICQ: 91139591

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      • 2257-Ben
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2005
        • 633

        #4
        Originally posted by Dameian
        hahahah I am reading this article about the bill that "strengthens" 2257 and I am laughing my ass off at the potential ramifications of it.

        http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10343

        If you don't want to read the above, here is the executive summary: "Among other provisions ... adds nudity and clothed images of pubic areas to the definition of ?explicit sexual activity? as defined in U.S.C. 18 ยง 2256, and criminalizes the production and distribution of R-rated mainstream motion pictures that fail to comply with the record creation and notice provisions of 2257..."

        Not just mere nudity would become illegal, but also clothed areas of the pubic area? hahahah Do you realize who this potentially turns into criminal violators? Here is a short list off the top of my head. The creators of:

        1. baby diaper commercials and print ads
        2. cosmo/glamor mag (they always have bare butt shots of women in ads)
        3. many, if not the majority of PG-R rates movies these days
        4. most music videos
        5. underwear commericals and print ads
        6. everything involving Victoria's Secret marketing
        7. journalists coverage of fashion shows
        8. SI swimsuit issue
        9. and be careful taking home pictures/movies of your newborns/infants/toddlers... post them on a homepage that has a commercial banner on it to share with family and friends and you're a violator too!

        The list goes on and on. Not to metion anyone and everyone who distributes or publishes these things would also need 2257 documentation.

        The activities that this bill would potentially criminalize are completely insane, will cause us all a lot of headaches until it is sorted out in the courts, and is also fucking great for comic relief right now despite all of that.... Thanks Mike Pence!
        This is a post for an appropriate sig placement... I just love these sig spots!
        2257-Ben
        www.2257ware.com
        The BEST, most compliant 2257 record-keeping software available. Period.

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        • jawanda
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 6040

          #5
          Damn, this is getting fucking ridiculous.

          Jimthefieeeeennnddddd .... tell your fellow republicans to CHILL THE FUCKKKK OUT!

          -P

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          • BuggyG
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 4179

            #6
            hehehe well they should go after them if it does go thru
            but doubt it very much
            they just want porn industry..
            don't care fuck-all about cosmo..diapers..etc..etc..

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            • JD
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2003
              • 22651

              #7
              it'll get shot down so fast. That's rediculous. Now they're fucking with mainstream and people like playboys wallets.....

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              • fl_prn_str
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 5736

                #8
                i wonder if this style of clothing would be to risque.....



                after they pass such legislation. those bible thumpers.....give 'em a foot and they take a mile.

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                • Dameian
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 122

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Patrick_Bateman
                  here is a bump for ya
                  Love the American Psycho references in your nick and sig heheheh

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                  • Dameian
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BuggyG
                    hehehe well they should go after them if it does go thru
                    but doubt it very much
                    they just want porn industry..
                    don't care fuck-all about cosmo..diapers..etc..etc..
                    You are absolutely correct. They would most likely cherry pick selected targets in our industry and leave the big/mainstream media companies alone, but that does not relieve them of their requirements to keep the records. I was just poking fun based on who, legally, would have to keep records.

                    Pence has stated that he wants to target "home pornographers", so if this goes through, you can expect some guys who run their business from home to be raided and have their property seized. To the DOJ that is a perfect scenario because in such a case the small webmaster making $100k - $200k a year would not be able to defend himself well. An easy victory could be won and a precedent set.

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                    • Redrob
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 4791

                      #11
                      The new proposed regulations expand the RICO forfeitures to include 2257.

                      How long do you think it would take for them to use the RICO laws to go after major adult websites AND their affiliates as co-conspirators.......?

                      "Close relationships can be part of the circumstantial
                      evidence from which a jury may infer that the defendant knew of a
                      conspiracy. See Salazar, 958 F.2d at 1294 - 95."


                      Ready to give it all up? Read what happened to Great Western Litho, CPLC, and Video Team in Dallas, Texas.

                      http://www.romingerlegal.com/fifthci...4.CV0.wpd.html
                      Last edited by Redrob; 09-16-2005, 01:09 PM.

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                      • dynastoned
                        mmm yeah!
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 5061

                        #12
                        at this rate your going to need to have 2257 documentation stamped on your forehead to go outside.

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                        • jscott
                          jscizzle
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 25438

                          #13
                          fucking horrible for anyone to even come up with these new anti-obcenety laws & tactics
                          If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.
                          - Jordan B. Peterson
                          Listen to Pomp tell why is Bitcoin important

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                          • phogirl69
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 3330

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Redrob
                            The new proposed regulations expand the RICO forfeitures to include 2257.

                            How long do you think it would take for them to use the RICO laws to go after major adult websites AND their affiliates as co-conspirators.......?

                            "Close relationships can be part of the circumstantial
                            evidence from which a jury may infer that the defendant knew of a
                            conspiracy. See Salazar, 958 F.2d at 1294 - 95."


                            Ready to give it all up? Read what happened to Great Western Litho, CPLC, and Video Team in Dallas, Texas.

                            http://www.romingerlegal.com/fifthci...4.CV0.wpd.html

                            Wow, just anal sex tapes were considered obscene in Mississipi back in 1993. That's considered mainstream now and acceptable I would hope.

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                            • Mr.Fiction
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 9484

                              #15
                              Another Republican who wants to destroy the Constition?
                              Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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