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Originally Posted by naitirps
Who said we hate? Ask away - i'll answer here. Some key things to remember. There are alot of diverse forms of judiasm, varying from reformed, conservative, and orthodox. reformed and conservative can have zionist views. You will never meet an orthodox jew who supports zionism in anyway, and 99% reject the creation of the state of israel. Most religions, even christianity, resources alot from judiasm from the old testament, including the so called 10 commandments. Judism follows 613 commandments - which is why ultra orthodox jews look the way they do, do the things they do, and oppose the creation of the state of israel. conservative is a middle ground, essentially orthodox but with adherance to the changes to the new world we live in. And lastly is reformed, jews inter marrying, getting tatoos, eating pork, etc. Most zionist backing are reformed, and some conservative. I don't support zionism, but i support my fellow jews. Being conservative, my gf is converting so we can wed, i've never eaten pork, etc.
As for the hate, ask any armenian if they like turks? They'll get pissed. Jews feel the same way about anti-semetic people. Most of their views focus on either we're different (orthodox) or we're all zionists. So we're fucked both ways... and that's why zionism exists, people over the centuries never let us be.
The bottom line is this. Everyone is entitled to their own ideas. If you're interested, read the 613 laws ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizvot) - and you'll see alot of what was determined 5000 years ago still applies to many aspects of other religions, democratic society, and much more. Some maybe overkill in the aspect of common sense (ie, don't fuck your mother lol). But then again... is common sense really common?
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So lets cut down this replay into some issues that you bring up.
1. Your girlfriend is converting so you can marry her, what a dumb fucking whore. You dont convert because of such stupid reason. If you love her and she loves you, you should be able to marry her without a problem. When you post that shit, that means she doesnt believe in everything that jews believe in, she does it to get married. S T U P I D.
2. No person with brains like anti-semetic, but lets not forget that criticism about israel is not antisemetic. (Just wanted to make it clear to all the fools here on this board).
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People over the centuries never let us be.
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Now, this is the most common thing about jews worldwide. WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE CRY CRY CRY, FEEL SORRY FOR US FEEL SORRY FOR US FEEL SORRY FOR US. Man, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
If there is any group of people on this planet who should be saying that shit, its the black people. They have for such a long time been raped, enslaved, killed etc etc etc, and you dont see them write this shit everyday.
If you compare them and jews, then you would have no right whatsoever to talk about how fucking bad ppl are towards to you.
4. Most of the anti-semetic on this planet today is the jews own fault, because of israel. Now, like i said earlier, its a difference in hating israel and jews as a group of ppl. But there are a lot of dumb fucks on this planet who will go over to anti-semetic because of all the fucking stupid shit israel brings this world.
5. You didnt post this, but there are so many dumb fucks here that i will bring it up anyway. In Iraq and Iran and most of the muslim countries, there are jewish communities. There are no problems here. But the problem itself is Israel and nothing else. And ofcourse all the zionism newspaper who wants to make a issue about muslims vs jews.