the n00bie-friendlized Debian distros (ubuntu is one I've been playing with lately)
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I tried kubuntu once, but for some odd reason, the linux kernel won't even boot on my system. I just get a flood of really serious errors, complaining about something at 0x894289d98a490 and a reboot. I've tried several different distributions, and several different boot options, but my system won't take it. However, it does boot freebsd 5 and 6 without any trouble.
Foresight Linux is starting to become my favorite distro. The only downside is there is just not much documentation on it, since its new, and theres not a big community built around it (yet).
Its built from rPath linux. rPath is a company founded by quite a few original key Red Hat engineers/people.
They basically had the task of building a new linux package manager from scratch, and came up with Conary. Its a very fine grained incremental package manager and revision control all in one. Its pretty damn amazing, and takes all the advantages of the different pacakges managers out there, and puts them all together, along with some new bells and whistles.
Foresight to rPath, kind of what Fedora is to Red Hat. Check it out.
linux sucks donkey balls for desktops - the rest i leave to hosting companies
have you have ever tried it for desktops for more than 6 months? No stupid blue screens, no viruses, no spyware, no strange crashes, no reboot, just few license to buy for "extra" commercial software, tons of open source and free software. Sure, you can't do ALL using linux but it is ok for 90% of desktop users
have you have ever tried it for desktops for more than 6 months? No stupid blue screens, no viruses, no spyware, no strange crashes, no reboot, just few license to buy for "extra" commercial software, tons of open source and free software. Sure, you can't do ALL using linux but it is ok for 90% of desktop users
fuck it - i recently gave it a chance again and it didn't even boot in graphical mode cause it didn't recognize my monitor - a monitor that can easily display everything between 640x480 and 1280x1024.
so all i got after installing was:
login>_
i would have needed to edit some files and i don't know what else to make that work - and i shit on that. i have no time for such a bullshit.
i get all microsoft software for $400 a year - incl. 10 windows licenses etc. - linux can officially kiss my ass. i'm happy with my windows xp
btw - it was CentOS i tried - 20 years of linux and still no proper hardware recognition - sad, sad, sad
btw - it was CentOS i tried - 20 years of linux and still no proper hardware recognition - sad, sad, sad
Did you ever read what CentOS was build for?
"CentOS exists to provide a free enterprise class computing platform to anyone who wishes to use it. " (from centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=3 ).
It isn't a dummies distro. You can try ubuntu who is build for:
"The Ubuntu community is built on the ideas enshrined in the Ubuntu Philosophy: that software should be available free of charge, that software tools should be usable by people in their local language and despite any disabilities, and that people should have the freedom to customise and alter their software in whatever way they see fit. ... Ubuntu is suitable for both desktop and server use." (from ubuntu.com ).
I'm pretty sure that linux isn't for everybody. You can prefer windows or linux, is not my problem :D
But please don't compare them, they are two different Operative System, with a different tech profile, built in a different way. Is like to compare a fiat 500 and a ferrari. You can prefer a fiat 500 because of it's easier to use and to understand what to do but it's different from a ferrari, you can't compare them.
"CentOS exists to provide a free enterprise class computing platform to anyone who wishes to use it. " (from centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=3 ).
It isn't a dummies distro. You can try ubuntu who is build for:
"The Ubuntu community is built on the ideas enshrined in the Ubuntu Philosophy: that software should be available free of charge, that software tools should be usable by people in their local language and despite any disabilities, and that people should have the freedom to customise and alter their software in whatever way they see fit. ... Ubuntu is suitable for both desktop and server use." (from ubuntu.com ).
I'm pretty sure that linux isn't for everybody. You can prefer windows or linux, is not my problem :D
But please don't compare them, they are two different Operative System, with a different tech profile, built in a different way. Is like to compare a fiat 500 and a ferrari. You can prefer a fiat 500 because of it's easier to use and to understand what to do but it's different from a ferrari, you can't compare them.
i can install windows 2003 server and it still recognizes my monitor. instead of offering me a text login without any further explanation
nah, thanks - every 2 or 3 years i try some linux and still i have to jump through loops to achieve the same i can achieve in windows in 2 minutes with closed eyes. have fun with it
MaDalton, this is because your installation doesnt come with a ready-made GUI. Unlike windows which has just one, linux has a decent # of unique graphical user inferfaces.
i can install windows 2003 server and it still recognizes my monitor. instead of offering me a text login without any further explanation
nah, thanks - every 2 or 3 years i try some linux and still i have to jump through loops to achieve the same i can achieve in windows in 2 minutes with closed eyes. have fun with it
Well, any Linux/Unix admin who knows what hes doing, typically, wont have any GUI installed on a server at all.
Its pretty traditional and well accepted for *nix server installs not to have any GUI what-so-ever. If you do a "Server" install using CentOS or many other linux distro's you wont have a GUI by default(last time I checked with CentOS).
I've played with it 6.06 (dapper) and currently 6.10 (edgy) on a spare box at the house as a desktop (toy mostly)...
I'm actually very impressed. It still has some room for improvement but overall it's pretty smooth...
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Well, any Linux/Unix admin who knows what hes doing, typically, wont have any GUI installed on a server at all.
Its pretty traditional and well accepted for *nix server installs not to have any GUI what-so-ever. If you do a "Server" install using CentOS or many other linux distro's you wont have a GUI by default(last time I checked with CentOS).
i had already edited some config file to start in runlevel 5 or whatever - with GUI. xwindows for a start - i think. i also tried to start xwindows manually, but it simply did not accept my monitor - which i found out by reading some logfiles. and it's just a simple tube monitor - vesa norm - nothing special.
so i didn't bother spending time with it anymore and reformatted it
but the best thing at the end was: due to the stupidty of linux and it's hd partinioning the pc couldn't boot from cd anymore and i had to format the drive in another pc first. i'm done with it for the next 2 years at least.
and btw - i have managed my red hat 7.1 server in the past - and i have a cisco ccna - i'm not a dummie - i just don't have the time to learn what i already know with windows
I have not used windows for months, I use Ubuntu 100% of the time.
The nice thing with Linux is that when I don't like some software I open up the source and I edit it. I have edited many software.. My ubuntu installation is now very personal , and it works very fast for me.
nah, thanks - every 2 or 3 years i try some linux and still i have to jump through loops to achieve the same i can achieve in windows in 2 minutes with closed eyes. have fun with it
Sure, lots of fun
Of course is ok to use windows too, I use it for some software and it's ok but it's really too buggy and too close for me :D
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