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  • wtfent
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    #1

    Why the hell would anybody want to ever buy a PC? Brainwashed maybe?

    Im serious. Macs are so smooth and so easy to operate. Ask anybody that has ever had a mac. Once you go mac you cant go back! Trust me. The change is hard at first but after a while you will start to laugh at people who use PCs and start to think of your self as part of an elite group that is smarter than the rest of the world. When I had a PC I was alot more angry all the time when I was on my computer. Its strange but macs are very feng shuish meaning you just get a relaxed, calm, simplistic feeling when using them.
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  • throwdown
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    #2
    i've never used a mac but thought about getting one many times.

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    • WarChild
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      #3
      Originally posted by wtfent
      Im serious. Macs are so smooth and so easy to operate. Ask anybody that has ever had a mac. Once you go mac you cant go back! Trust me. The change is hard at first but after a while you will start to laugh at people who use PCs and start to think to yourself as part of an elite group that is smarter than the rest of the world" When I had a PC I was alot more angry all the time when I was on my computer. Its strange but macs are very feng shuish meaning you just get a relaxed, calm, simplistic feeling when using them.
      Used a Mac, didn't like it. Went back quickly. So much for that theory.

      Beta was better than VHS, but VHS became the standard. After that, owning a Beta was just stupid. Same thing goes for the corporate world and PC. Unless of course you're in graphic design / publishing.
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      • wtfent
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        #4
        Your mac must have sucked then. What did you have? The new stuff they have is top notch!
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        • WarChild
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          #5
          Originally posted by wtfent
          Your mac must have sucked then. What did you have? The new stuff they have is top notch!
          I believe it was a G4. It didn't suit my needs. I also don't find myself getting angry ar frustrated with my PC. It's just a tool.
          .

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          • Babaganoosh
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            #6
            Macs are for people too "slow" to use anything else.
            I like pie.

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            • GatorB
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              #7
              Originally posted by wtfent
              Im serious. Macs are so smooth and so easy to operate. Ask anybody that has ever had a mac. Once you go mac you cant go back! Trust me. The change is hard at first but after a while you will start to laugh at people who use PCs and start to think of your self as part of an elite group that is smarter than the rest of the world. When I had a PC I was alot more angry all the time when I was on my computer. Its strange but macs are very feng shuish meaning you just get a relaxed, calm, simplistic feeling when using them.

              Hmmm maybe more expensive for what you get and also I guess if you want half the internet. A lot of shit is not made for Macs. So, butrry Steves Jobs had his chance and blew it. Move on. Better luck next life Steve.

              It's amazing the Macs are supposedly superior and yet after 20 years and god knows how many millions of $ in advertising Macs still can't break past the 3% useage level. WTF does that tell you?

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              • Brujah
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                #8
                Do any major sites run on Mac servers ?

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                • wtfent
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GatorB
                  Hmmm maybe more expensive for what you get and also I guess if you want half the internet. A lot of shit is not made for Macs. So, butrry Steves Jobs had his chance and blew it. Move on. Better luck next life Steve.

                  It's amazing the Macs are supposedly superior and yet after 20 years and god knows how many millions of $ in advertising Macs still can't break past the 3% useage level. WTF does that tell you?
                  That tells me that the world is easily brainwashed and kind of dumb. Do you realize how much better this world and the internet would be if we just all used macs?
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                  • Kanon
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                    #10
                    You're not smarter than the rest of the world, you're not superior, you're not elite.

                    Macs serve thier place for certain types of people, but for the masses Windows is great.

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                    • NTSS
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                      #11
                      Never even entertained the idea of using a mac...so I must be brainwashed...i guess
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                      • wtfent
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                        #12
                        You guys just dont get it do you? One day you will see.
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                        • wtfent
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kanon
                          You're not smarter than the rest of the world, you're not superior, you're not elite.

                          Macs serve thier place for certain types of people, but for the masses Windows is great.
                          But is the masses used macs it would be even better.
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                          • WarChild
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by wtfent
                            You guys just dont get it do you? One day you will see.
                            Not with MAC market share falling.
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                            • GatorB
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by wtfent
                              You guys just dont get it do you? One day you will see.
                              No YOU don't get. Steve Jobs never got it. So your ignorance doesn't surprise me. Ever see that TV movie about Jobs and Gates? Jobs says to Gates "But the Mac is better" gates says "That's doesn't matter" and that's why Gates is worth $50 billion and Jobs slobbers on Gates' cock. Gates got it Jobs didn't.

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                              • wtfent
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Not with MAC market share falling.
                                Young grasshopa you have much to learn!
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                                • GatorB
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wtfent
                                  Young grasshopa you have much to learn!
                                  Until Wal-Mart and HSN start selling Macs they are never going to be more than 3% marketshare.

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                                  • E Guru
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by wtfent
                                    Im serious. Macs are so smooth and so easy to operate. Ask anybody that has ever had a mac. Once you go mac you cant go back! Trust me. The change is hard at first but after a while you will start to laugh at people who use PCs and start to think of your self as part of an elite group that is smarter than the rest of the world. When I had a PC I was alot more angry all the time when I was on my computer. Its strange but macs are very feng shuish meaning you just get a relaxed, calm, simplistic feeling when using them.

                                    Guru

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                                    • wtfent
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                      No YOU don't get. Steve Jobs never got it. So your ignorance doesn't surprise me. Ever see that TV movie about Jobs and Gates? Jobs says to Gates "But the Mac is better" gates says "That's doesn't matter" and that's why Gates is worth $50 billion and Jobs slobbers on Gates' cock. Gates got it Jobs didn't.
                                      And that makes them better? Microsoft came up with a better marketing plan, yes! But that does not mean they have a better product? NO! They came up with a plan to market to the masses in a big time way as the internet was forming. Ev eryone wanted a computer and of course they were going to buy a PC cause they were being mass marketed like a mother fucker. In 95 I had used macs in school with no internet so I thought only Pcs could use the internet ant not macs so even I was brainwashed.
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                                      • aico
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                        Used a Mac, didn't like it. Went back quickly. So much for that theory.

                                        Beta was better than VHS, but VHS became the standard. After that, owning a Beta was just stupid. Same thing goes for the corporate world and PC. Unless of course you're in graphic design / publishing.
                                        Excellent point about the Beta vs. VHS... except you forgot one simple thing, and that is that all the professionals who know anything about video and quality of video, use Beta...

                                        So much for that Theory...

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                                        • GatorB
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by wtfent
                                          And that makes them better?
                                          See you still don't get it

                                          Microsoft came up with a better marketing plan, yes!
                                          And Jobs has had 20 years to figure how Gates did it and still hasn't learned shit. Yet I'm supposed to buy his products?

                                          But that does not mean they have a better product?
                                          Somebody find me a pic of a dead horse being beaten.

                                          In 95 I had used macs in school with no internet so I thought only Pcs could use the internet ant not macs so even I was brainwashed.
                                          We can't help you are retarded.

                                          By the way do you own an XBOX?

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                                          • wtfent
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                                            #22
                                            Everyone knows PCs are like the Walmart of computers. Everyone goes there cause its cheap and ethere everywhere but then your shit fucking breaks a week later. We all know macs are way better quality, the rest are all too woried about how fast than can come up with some new shit that just works. Apple takes there time and deliver's a quality product.
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                                            • wtfent
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aico
                                              Excellent point about the Beta vs. VHS... except you forgot one simple thing, and that is that all the professionals who know anything about video and quality of video, use Beta...

                                              So much for that Theory...

                                              My point exactly! See people dont know what the fuck they are talking about. BRAINWASHED. Do you know what that word means people?
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                                              • GatorB
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by wtfent
                                                Everyone knows PCs are like the Walmart of computers. Everyone goes there cause its cheap and ethere everywhere but then your shit fucking breaks a week later. We all know macs are way better quality, the rest are all too woried about how fast than can come up with some new shit that just works. Apple takes there time and deliver's a quality product.

                                                So good for you. You have a "better" product. Now enjoy your overpriced, lack of software, half the intertnet product and STFU already.

                                                I swear you Mac people are like Jehovah Witnesses.

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                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by wtfent
                                                  Everyone knows PCs are like the Walmart of computers. Everyone goes there cause its cheap and ethere everywhere but then your shit fucking breaks a week later. We all know macs are way better quality, the rest are all too woried about how fast than can come up with some new shit that just works. Apple takes there time and deliver's a quality product.
                                                  Haven't you heard, nobody gives a shit.

                                                  Why would I pay twice what I pay for a PC to get a computer that won't run half of the apps I need?

                                                  I don't give a shit how great you think it is, it isn't for me.

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                                                  • aico
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                                    I believe it was a G4. It didn't suit my needs. I also don't find myself getting angry ar frustrated with my PC. It's just a tool.
                                                    You're not angry or frustrated, but yet you go by the name Warchild... might want to do a little psychology on that...

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                                                    • wtfent
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                      See you still don't get it



                                                      And Jobs has had 20 years to figure how Gates did it and still hasn't learned shit. Yet I'm supposed to buy his products?



                                                      Somebody find me a pic of a dead horse being beaten.



                                                      We can't help you are retarded.

                                                      By the way do you own an XBOX?

                                                      No I dont own an XBOX. I own an ipod though! Im sorry I cant argue with years of brainwashing. I dont care if the PC was marketed better, that does not mean PCs are better.
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                                                      • wtfent
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                        You're not angry or frustrated, but yet you go by the name Warchild... might want to do a little psychology on that...

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                                                        • wtfent
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                                                          #29
                                                          gatorB you are annoying but I have to admit this is so funny and so true.

                                                          "I swear you Mac people are like Jehovah Witnesses."
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                                                          • aico
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GatorB
                                                            So good for you. You have a "better" product. Now enjoy your overpriced, lack of software, half the intertnet product and STFU already.

                                                            I swear you Mac people are like Jehovah Witnesses.
                                                            Exactly what software is a Mac lacking? I keep hearing this as a reason, and I am seriously curious what software you think Mac doesn't have. Because, if you didn't know this, which I am guessing you don't. You can run Windows XP (or any Windows OS) on a Mac, so in actuality, Mac has twice the amount of applications that a PC does.

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                                                            • aico
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                                                              #31
                                                              Oh, and I don't care if you like PC better or Mac better, I myself, prefer my Mac over my PC.

                                                              PC are very cheap, so I can understand why more people buy them, the majority of people only use there computer (not talking about people in the biz, just everyday people) for email, writing letters, and surfing the web. If that is all I did, I would be fine with a fucking $300 eMachine, why spend $2000 on a Mac.

                                                              But, I do tons of shit, from editing Video, authoring DVDs, Graphic Design, Photography, Music, and for me the Mac is the best computer for the job.

                                                              There is nothing my PC can do that my Mac can't, but there are lots of things my Mac can do that my PC can't.

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                                                              • wtfent
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                                Oh, and I don't care if you like PC better or Mac better, I myself, prefer my Mac over my PC.

                                                                PC are very cheap, so I can understand why more people buy them, the majority of people only use there computer (not talking about people in the biz, just everyday people) for email, writing letters, and surfing the web. If that is all I did, I would be fine with a fucking $300 eMachine, why spend $2000 on a Mac.

                                                                But, I do tons of shit, from editing Video, authoring DVDs, Graphic Design, Photography, Music, and for me the Mac is the best computer for the job.

                                                                There is nothing my PC can do that my Mac can't, but there are lots of things my Mac can do that my PC can't.
                                                                This guy should have just started the thread. Seems like he got you guys to shut up alot better than I could. Brought up some damn good points also. Good stuff Aico.
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                                                                • aico
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wtfent
                                                                  This guy should have just started the thread. Seems like he got you guys to shut up alot better than I could. Brought up some damn good points also. Good stuff Aico.
                                                                  Except I don't know the difference between their and there, and probably your and you're.

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                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah hope you MAC loyalists are rdy to get the shaft again...

                                                                    Looks like Apple is gonna drop Motorolla chips and goto Intel


                                                                    LOL, MAC people want to believe so bad...

                                                                    Take it from a 68040 Old school Mac guy.
                                                                    The switch to PowerPC was a real bitch, looks like they doing it again!

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                                                                    • wtfent
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                      Yeah hope you MAC loyalists are rdy to get the shaft again...

                                                                      Looks like Apple is gonna drop Motorolla chips and goto Intel


                                                                      LOL, MAC people want to believe so bad...

                                                                      Take it from a 68040 Old school Mac guy.
                                                                      The switch to PowerPC was a real bitch, looks like they doing it again!

                                                                      I heard about this and will kill myself if it happens. I think its a rumor though.
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                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Not a rumor. Its true.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              To be honest I think Mac can make a very strong come back with Intel knocking out the Chips. When the Intel Based MAC's come out I urge a strong buy on both MAC and Intel stock.

                                                                              Face it. The Intel Chip set's are just better and have always been better and MAC has damged itself for not going sooner to Intel.
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                                                                              • GatorB
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                Not a rumor. Its true.
                                                                                Let's hope so.

                                                                                Originally posted by wtfent
                                                                                I heard about this and will kill myself if it happens.

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                                                                                • aico
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                  Do any major sites run on Mac servers ?
                                                                                  apple.com is a pretty big site.

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                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I remember the silly Software Apple adopted a while back ago called "ORange" or somthing like that. Err NetObjects I think is what it was called when it came to market.

                                                                                    I was asked to evaluate it and and I called it a peace of shit. It didnt please the exec's listening behind the glass. I was concerned about open standards for web building.

                                                                                    Needless to say NetObjects was a miserable failure.
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                                                                                    • EviLGuY
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Macs are fine in my opinion. I used to have one back in the day. I like how they work. They are very logical and I can appreciate that.

                                                                                      However for me the vastly superior amount of SOFTWARE out there for PCs is why I don't use a Mac anymore. Games especially are lacking.. and while I don't play that many I like to be able to.

                                                                                      I think my ideal Mac would be a laptop. It'd be fun to tinker with and would do all the stuff I like to do when I am away from home.

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                                                                                      • aico
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                        I remember the silly Software Apple adopted a while back ago called "ORange" or somthing like that. Err NetObjects I think is what it was called when it came to market.

                                                                                        I was asked to evaluate it and and I called it a peace of shit. It didnt please the exec's listening behind the glass. I was concerned about open standards for web building.

                                                                                        Needless to say NetObjects was a miserable failure.
                                                                                        I remember this silly software Microsoft came out with, what was it called? oh ya.. Bob... what a miserable failure that was, so much so, that it was newsworthy.

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                                                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by aico
                                                                                          I remember this silly software Microsoft came out with, what was it called? oh ya.. Bob... what a miserable failure that was, so much so, that it was newsworthy.

                                                                                          Was it server software?
                                                                                          Just trying to answer a question about Apple Server software

                                                                                          They are not good at it.

                                                                                          Hence FreeBSD/Linux.

                                                                                          What is Apple exactly?

                                                                                          I will tell you.

                                                                                          A company that had a very hard time deciding if they are a hardware company or a software company
                                                                                          At least Gates came out with a mission in Software, and left Hardware upto IBM/INtel, while Mac tried to do both. Now MAC is stuck in Hardware/Software Limbo and looks like Mac is gonna go with Hardware since all they are releasing is "innovative" hardware trinkets in cute shinney boxes.
                                                                                          By this time Next year people that are current MAC users are going to be pretty pissed about Intel making the Motorala's obsolete.

                                                                                          Lets see what happens.
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                                                                                          • bhutocracy
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            funny.. a macolyte trolling by calling pc users brainwashed. I thought Americans weren't supposed to have a very developed sense of irony?

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                                                                                            • WarChild
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by aico
                                                                                              You're not angry or frustrated, but yet you go by the name Warchild... might want to do a little psychology on that...
                                                                                              What the hell are you talking about?

                                                                                              WarChild is a society for children displaced by war.
                                                                                              WarChild is a character from point break.
                                                                                              WarChild is a handle I've used for more than a decade.

                                                                                              Pleast stick to the topic at hand.
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                                                                                funny.. a macolyte trolling by calling pc users brainwashed. I thought Americans weren't supposed to have a very developed sense of irony?
                                                                                                I am just half awake and gettin the post count thing going.

                                                                                                Oh hey I know...

                                                                                                I am going to go Play my PSP some. It has a Linux variant in it
                                                                                                Like a MAC.

                                                                                                Sony is going to put Apple out of business in a buy out. I think it is strange that the SONY PSP has some "Mac" qualities in it. Its not a coincidence.

                                                                                                Watch.
                                                                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 09-09-2005, 01:10 AM.

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                                                                                                • bhutocracy
                                                                                                  Not making A Comeback
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 10218

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                  What the hell are you talking about?

                                                                                                  hey.. mac just entered the new century and released a multi button mouse.. leave him alone, he's probably been catching up and reading/researching more efficiently..

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                                                                                                  • aico
                                                                                                    Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 14748

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                    Was it server software?
                                                                                                    Just trying to answer a question about Apple Server software

                                                                                                    They are not good at it.

                                                                                                    Hence FreeBSD/Linux.

                                                                                                    What is Apple exactly?

                                                                                                    I will tell you.

                                                                                                    A company that had a very hard time deciding if they are a hardware company or a software company
                                                                                                    At least Gates came out with a mission in Software, and left Hardware upto IBM/INtel, while Mac tried to do both. Now MAC is stuck in Hardware/Software Limbo and looks like Mac is gonna go with Hardware since all they are releasing is "innovative" hardware trinkets in cute shinney boxes.
                                                                                                    By this time Next year people that are current MAC users are going to be pretty pissed about Intel making the Motorala's obsolete.

                                                                                                    Lets see what happens.
                                                                                                    ya ya ya, Intel is making Chips for Mac... but just because Intel makes the chip, doesn't mean it has to be PC based... I am sure they are capable of making a similar chip to Motorola.

                                                                                                    The reason why Mac dropped Motorola is because they couldn't promise to keep making a fast enough chip, where as Intel said that they could do it.

                                                                                                    I am willing to be that the new chip will be very similar to what the G5's are using now. As far as I know (and that could be a short distance) it's the OS that ultimately runs the programs, not the chip.

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