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  • VeriSexy
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    • Apr 2002
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    #1

    $4.50/Mbps Is this insane??? Hurricane Electric Bandwidth

    These guys have been selling Hurricane Electric Bandwidth for 3 years.


    4.50/Mbps Premium Bandwidth Special
    Argon Blue would like to start by thanking WHT members for their patronage over the past 4 years. Our company has steadily grown over the last 4 years and we?re proud to offer the following deals as part of what we?re calling, our 4th Anniversary sale.

    As you probably already know, Argon Blue leases and sells affordable cabinets, custom cage space and premium bandwidth in the world's most desirable datacenters.

    Cabinets
    - Full 42U individually keyed cabinet
    - Free Shelves (subject to availability)*

    Power & Cooling
    - Dedicated 15AMP/110VAC Circuit
    - Scalable Power Configurations*
    - Backup Generators
    - Cooling Capacity

    Building Security
    - 24/7 facility access
    - Biometric security*
    - Secure covered parking*

    Our Network
    - Free IP addresses (per ARIN guidelines)
    - IPv6 connectivity and addresses available
    - 500+ National and International network peers
    - Redundant self-healing fiber backbone

    Our Service
    - 24x7 basic remote hands included
    - 24x7 toll-free support
    - Direct access to datacenter 24x7 support staff
    - Online support portal for graphs, address blocks, etc.
    - Real time MRTG graphs for your port

    Offer 1: $400 OFF FIRST 3 MONTHS
    - Unmetered 100Mbps
    - Private 42U cabinet
    - Total $1800 monthly
    - Sale Price $1400 monthly**

    Offer 2: $400 OFF FIRST 3 MONTHS
    - Unmetered 10Mbps
    - Private 42U cabinet
    - Total $950 monthly
    - Sale Price $550 monthly**

    Offer 3: ONLY $4.50/MBPS!!!
    - Rack space & power for single server
    - Unmetered 100Mbps port
    - Fremont HE facility only
    - Sale Price $450 monthly


    * MAE West (San Jose) Only
    ** 12 month commitment required; 3 months at sale price and 9 months at regular price.

    Limited space available in Fremont site.
    All special pricing is guaranteed through September 6, 2005 -- email or call today.

    To take advantage of this special offer or if you would like a quote on our other services, please e-mail [email protected], call us toll-free at 1-800-710-8004 or visit our website at www.argonblue.com.

    Argon Blue also offers attractive multi-cabinet and custom cage pricing -- email or call today for a quote!


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  • sandman!
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    • Mar 2001
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    #2
    yea i saw that posted not too long ago.

    me think one of those for p2p would be nice

    hehe
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    • VeriSexy
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      #3
      Originally posted by sandman!
      yea i saw that posted not too long ago.

      me think one of those for p2p would be nice

      hehe

      They would be good for hosted gallerys as well. Argonblue has been in business for quite a while and pretty surprised they can give those kind of deals. I think they are Hurricane Electrics #1 reseller
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      • Ycaza
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        • Feb 2005
        • 4290

        #4
        wow thats some spam. LOL. Hurricane Electric is not premium bandwith. and make sure when spamming to gfy to not thank the people on web hosting talk "start by thanking WHT members". Buyers beware as usual. Good Luck Though
        Caz Thrush
        Head Honcho
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        http://thrushtech.com
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        • Logan Videos
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          • Aug 2005
          • 589

          #5
          That seems too good to be true..


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          • Logan Videos
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 589

            #6
            Originally posted by Cazually
            wow thats some spam. LOL. Hurricane Electric is not premium bandwith. and make sure when spamming to gfy to not thank the people on web hosting talk "start by thanking WHT members". Buyers beware as usual. Good Luck Though

            That seconds what I just posted lol

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            • 4Pics
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2001
              • 7952

              #7
              how much is regular price? $1500 a megabit?

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              • $5 submissions
                I help you SUCCEED
                • Nov 2003
                • 32189

                #8
                Hmmmmm someone contact me. I am very interested for a new project.

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                • sandman!
                  Icq: 14420613
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 15427

                  #9
                  Originally posted by $5 submissions
                  Hmmmmm someone contact me. I am very interested for a new project.

                  i dont think the owner of that company is in this thread.

                  this is just a repost of a wht post.
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                  • VeriSexy
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cazually
                    wow thats some spam. LOL. Hurricane Electric is not premium bandwith. and make sure when spamming to gfy to not thank the people on web hosting talk "start by thanking WHT members". Buyers beware as usual. Good Luck Though

                    LOL of course your not going to get top of the line bandwidth for such a cheap price. This bandwidth is great for gallerys and a few other things. This company is very solid

                    I forgot that your a competitor so I don't expect anything less
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                    • Nylz
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 8285

                      #11
                      Offer 1: $400 OFF FIRST 3 MONTHS
                      - Unmetered 100Mbps
                      - Private 42U cabinet
                      - Total $1800 monthly
                      - Sale Price $1400 monthly**

                      Offer 3: ONLY $4.50/MBPS!!!
                      - Rack space & power for single server
                      - Unmetered 100Mbps port
                      - Fremont HE facility only
                      - Sale Price $450 monthly


                      OK so what did I miss here? What's teh difference?
                      No sig.

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                      • sandman!
                        Icq: 14420613
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 15427

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nylz
                        Offer 1: $400 OFF FIRST 3 MONTHS
                        - Unmetered 100Mbps
                        - Private 42U cabinet
                        - Total $1800 monthly
                        - Sale Price $1400 monthly**

                        Offer 3: ONLY $4.50/MBPS!!!
                        - Rack space & power for single server
                        - Unmetered 100Mbps port
                        - Fremont HE facility only
                        - Sale Price $450 monthly


                        OK so what did I miss here? What's teh difference?
                        your either dumb or cant read.
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                        • VeriSexy
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nylz
                          Offer 1: $400 OFF FIRST 3 MONTHS
                          - Unmetered 100Mbps
                          - Private 42U cabinet
                          - Total $1800 monthly
                          - Sale Price $1400 monthly**

                          Offer 3: ONLY $4.50/MBPS!!!
                          - Rack space & power for single server
                          - Unmetered 100Mbps port
                          - Fremont HE facility only
                          - Sale Price $450 monthly


                          OK so what did I miss here? What's teh difference?

                          Offer 1 is full Rack 42U and offer 3 is space for a 1U server
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                          • Ycaza
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 4290

                            #14
                            Yep I am a competitor, but I know H E. The peering is just not really that hot. And 4.50 per meg is less than wholesale cost. Plus it looks like you are just cuttingt for web and pasting spam meant for web hosting talk. I never do competitor spam unless its way too good to be true. You look like a gfy old timer by the post count, so maybe you made a deal with them and such and H E can be ok for FHG's, but the rate you would have to oversubscribe at 4.50 is 20 to 1, cuz the ISP figures 10:1 and the hosting company figures 5:1 and add to it. OUCH, thats a lot of over subscription. But, if it works, you get a great deal.
                            Caz Thrush
                            Head Honcho
                            [email protected]
                            http://thrushtech.com
                            ICQ: 304883574
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                            • SomeCreep
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 26118

                              #15
                              With hosting, you tend to get what you pay for. I wouldnt trust bandwidth that cheap.

                              Webair Hosting

                              I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

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                              • VeriSexy
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cazually
                                Yep I am a competitor, but I know H E. The peering is just not really that hot. And 4.50 per meg is less than wholesale cost. Plus it looks like you are just cuttingt for web and pasting spam meant for web hosting talk. I never do competitor spam unless its way too good to be true. You look like a gfy old timer by the post count, so maybe you made a deal with them and such and H E can be ok for FHG's, but the rate you would have to oversubscribe at 4.50 is 20 to 1, cuz the ISP figures 10:1 and the hosting company figures 5:1 and add to it. OUCH, thats a lot of over subscription. But, if it works, you get a great deal.

                                I don't profit from posting this, I just know a good deal when I see it. I know lot's of GFYers use a ton of bandwidth and tons of host are on here like hawks trying to get more business. Argonblue and Egihosting are two of the largest resellers at He.net and I bet they get even better deals than this.

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                                This promotion can be used with any new orders, with a limit of one per customer, and is only available over the same connection as the initial order.

                                For example, a customer could order 200 Mbps @ $20/Mbps and get an extra 200 Mbps included for free, for a total of 400 Mbps as the base traffic included. Additional traffic over 200 Mbps would be billed at $20/Mbps.

                                This means that if you qualify for the offer, you can get 400 Mbps burstable on a Gig-E interface for only $4000! Thats $10/Mbps for the first 400 Mbps!

                                This offer is avalible at any he.net pop, and is avalible for a limited time only. Send me an email at [email protected], or call me at 1-800-845-0146 x122 for more details.

                                If you don't qualify for this offer, remember that he.net has great rates for you also! An unlimited 100Mbps connection (via 100BT) is only $2000/month, or choose a full gig for only $13,000/month! Have another need? Email or call and we will work on a custom quote for you!

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                                • Nylz
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                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 8285

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                  your either dumb or cant read.
                                  or I just don't know what the FUCK the difference is
                                  No sig.

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                                  • Nylz
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 8285

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                    Offer 1 is full Rack 42U and offer 3 is space for a 1U server
                                    uhm

                                    yes...


                                    ???
                                    No sig.

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                                    • VeriSexy
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nylz
                                      uhm

                                      yes...


                                      ???
                                      What don't you understand??? This is for colocation......
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                                      • Lensman
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                                        • Jan 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Cogent BW!

                                        33 HP-DIGITAL-33
                                        42 WOODYNET-1
                                        174 COGENT-PSI-1
                                        226 LOS-NETTOS-AS

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                                        • VeriSexy
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                          Cogent BW!

                                          33 HP-DIGITAL-33
                                          42 WOODYNET-1
                                          174 COGENT-PSI-1
                                          226 LOS-NETTOS-AS

                                          They also sell Cogent but the deal is in Fremont HE facility only. They don't have Cogent there.
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                                          • sandman!
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                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 15427

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nylz
                                            or I just don't know what the FUCK the difference is
                                            the just as what a 42U cabinet is.


                                            here is a pic from ebay of a 42u cabinet

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                                            • VeriSexy
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Nylz
                                              or I just don't know what the FUCK the difference is
                                              And this is what a 1U server looks like

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                                              • VeriSexy
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                                                #24
                                                Found pic of a cabinet with a few 1U dell servers

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                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                  #25
                                                  Last one, you should get the idea now

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                                                  • justsexxx
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                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 13723

                                                    #26
                                                    Hi Nylz,

                                                    42U is a "kast" for a lot of server. 1U is space for 1 server....

                                                    The more U, the more servers it can store.

                                                    Most servers use 1 or 2 U space
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                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                      Hi Nylz,

                                                      42U is a "kast" for a lot of server. 1U is space for 1 server....

                                                      The more U, the more servers it can store.

                                                      Most servers use 1 or 2 U space
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                                                      • VeriSexy
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                                                        #28
                                                        Great deal for programs offering hosted galleries
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                                                        • VeriSexy
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
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                                                          • darksoul
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                                                            #30
                                                            1 word: overselling
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                                                            • justsexxx
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                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 13723

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                              Great deal for programs offering hosted galleries

                                                              Why? Because that is less important? We offer our hosted galleries on isprime as well. Because they are in our opinion VERY important for our affiliates.

                                                              When they have all our FHG's listed, and the fhg's are down, it will hurt their site as well....Companies that don't take their FHG's serious, shouldn't be taken serious at all
                                                              Questions?

                                                              ICQ: 125184542

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                                                              • sandman!
                                                                Icq: 14420613
                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                • 15427

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                Why? Because that is less important? We offer our hosted galleries on isprime as well. Because they are in our opinion VERY important for our affiliates.

                                                                When they have all our FHG's listed, and the fhg's are down, it will hurt their site as well....Companies that don't take their FHG's serious, shouldn't be taken serious at all
                                                                cheaper bandwith and gallery's being down are 2 diffrent things.
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                                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                  cheaper bandwith and gallery's being down are 2 diffrent things.

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                                                                  • Alex Xe

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Price is strange low....
                                                                    I undestand 12 or 15 dollars per mbit. but 4.5 USD...it is not possible...

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                                                                    • rowan
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                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 17393

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I still remember H.E. quoting me something like $400 for 1Mbit/sec (that's ONE) only a couple of years ago.

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                                                                      • VeriSexy
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by rowan
                                                                        I still remember H.E. quoting me something like $400 for 1Mbit/sec (that's ONE) only a couple of years ago.

                                                                        HE now concentrates on wholesale customers. They don't want to bother with people that buy a few megs of bandwidth so they mark prices up bigtime. Bandwidth is cheap but skilled techs are not.....
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                                                                        • Herb Kornfield
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                                                                          • 4996

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Adult hosts are MUCH more familiar with the inner workings of tweaking scripts, being avaiable 24-7 via multiple contact methods and overall word of the adult webmaster.

                                                                          I would rather pay the extra cash to a host that understands my adult business and can keep thing alive 24-7 than save a few bucks on what is really only a pipe to the net.... Nothing more, nothing less....

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                                                                          • SinisterStudios
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                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 3087

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Cazually
                                                                            Yep I am a competitor, but I know H E. The peering is just not really that hot. And 4.50 per meg is less than wholesale cost. Plus it looks like you are just cuttingt for web and pasting spam meant for web hosting talk. I never do competitor spam unless its way too good to be true. You look like a gfy old timer by the post count, so maybe you made a deal with them and such and H E can be ok for FHG's, but the rate you would have to oversubscribe at 4.50 is 20 to 1, cuz the ISP figures 10:1 and the hosting company figures 5:1 and add to it. OUCH, thats a lot of over subscription. But, if it works, you get a great deal.
                                                                            Cazually is right one here, at those prices the bandwith has to be oversubscribed to death, but you get what you pay for. High end bandwith costs $$$ and you get what you pay for. HE bandwith has its place and i wish they were in my datacenter so i could offer that cheap bandwith to some of our customers too.

                                                                            HE you guys ever going to install a POP in Equinix Secaucus NJ?
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                                                                            • facialfreak
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                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 3018

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Cazually
                                                                              Hurricane Electric is not premium bandwith.
                                                                              Are you high??? What is the matter with HE ??

                                                                              Me, and ISPrime want to know ...

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                                                                              • VeriSexy
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                                                                                Cazually is right one here, at those prices the bandwith has to be oversubscribed to death, but you get what you pay for. High end bandwith costs $$$ and you get what you pay for. HE bandwith has its place and i wish they were in my datacenter so i could offer that cheap bandwith to some of our customers too.

                                                                                HE you guys ever going to install a POP in Equinix Secaucus NJ?
                                                                                HE guys are not here but you can contact Reid Fishler [email protected],
                                                                                1-800-845-0146 x122

                                                                                They have POPs in

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                                                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 25463

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Cazually
                                                                                  wow thats some spam. LOL. Hurricane Electric is not premium bandwith. and make sure when spamming to gfy to not thank the people on web hosting talk "start by thanking WHT members". Buyers beware as usual. Good Luck Though

                                                                                  LMAO didn't know you guys were listed in Spamhaus

                                                                                  Spam hosting network partnered with the worst types of ROKSO spammers.

                                                                                  New number: 213-614-9372 Location: Los Angeles (Downtown)

                                                                                  OC-3 Networks
                                                                                  Ilan Mishan ([email protected])
                                                                                  19528 Ventura Blvd. Suite 433
                                                                                  Tarzana, CA 91356
                                                                                  (818)347-3431
                                                                                  (818)389-7300

                                                                                  Oc3 Network & Web Solutions
                                                                                  (818) 347-3431
                                                                                  6279 Variel Ave
                                                                                  Woodland Hills, CA 91367

                                                                                  Corporate -

                                                                                  OC3 NETWORKS & WEB SOLUTIONS, LLC
                                                                                  Number: 200105110022
                                                                                  Date Filed: 2/2/2001
                                                                                  Status: active
                                                                                  Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA

                                                                                  Address
                                                                                  19802 VICTORY BLVD
                                                                                  WOODLAND HILLS, CA 91367

                                                                                  Agent for Service of Process
                                                                                  AMY LAMPI
                                                                                  2730 GATEWAY OAKS DRIVE STE 100
                                                                                  SACRAMENTO, CA 95833
                                                                                  _____________
                                                                                  OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC.

                                                                                  Mailing Address:
                                                                                  19528 Ventura Blvd, #433 Tarzana, CA 91356

                                                                                  Datacenter:
                                                                                  530 West 6th St. 3rd floor suite 302 Los Angeles, CA 90014

                                                                                  Tel: (213) 614-9371 Fax: (213) 614-9375

                                                                                  Toll Free: 1-877-OC3-Networks (623-6389)

                                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                                  _____________

                                                                                  Ilan Mishan
                                                                                  OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC
                                                                                  1-877-OC3-NETWORKS (623-6389)
                                                                                  Tel: 818-3473431
                                                                                  Fax : 818-3473364
                                                                                  _____________


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                                                                                  ______________

                                                                                  Named contact, good chances just a sockpuppet -

                                                                                  Dave C. Lucas
                                                                                  Abuse Department
                                                                                  OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC


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                                                                                  Agent 818-996-5800 X136
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                                                                                  Map of 6279 Variel Ave Woodland Hills, CA 91367-2500, US location

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