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  • Penthouse Tony
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    • Apr 2004
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    #101
    Originally posted by Revshare-Omar
    The only way I would guess would be collecting all those "spears of destiny's" that are out there. Which supposed to have pierced the side of Christ? Maybe that's the only way ?
    2000+ years later? Unless it was frozen inside of glacier.
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    • Splum
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      #102
      Haha ok look people there is NO DNA OF JESUS the DNA they took was from the "bones" so they could compare with the other bones to see if the bones were blood related. LOL!

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      • Penthouse Tony
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        #103
        Originally posted by Splum
        Haha ok look people there is NO DNA OF JESUS the DNA they took was from the "bones" so they could compare with the other bones to see if the bones were blood related. LOL!
        That's what I'm not understanding. I thought DNA wouldn't survive in bones that old.
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        • Splum
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          #104
          Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
          That's what I'm not understanding. I thought DNA wouldn't survive in bones that old.
          Ahh sorry I thought you meant how can they compare with a "Jesus" DNA sample. I am almost 100% positive you can get nuclear DNA from bones only 2000 years old, I think you run into problems when you go beyond the 10000 year mark.
          A quick Google search and here is a story about DNA from 30000 year old bones:
          http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/15/news/gene.php

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          • Penthouse Tony
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            #105
            Originally posted by Splum
            Ahh sorry I thought you meant how can they compare with a "Jesus" DNA sample. I am almost 100% positive you can get nuclear DNA from bones only 2000 years old, I think you run into problems when you go beyond the 10000 year mark.
            A quick Google search and here is a story about DNA from 30000 year old bones:
            http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/15/news/gene.php
            Interesting. Thanks for the link.
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            • nastynun
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              #106
              You can read more about it here to http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/tomb/tomb.html
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              • JP-pornshooter
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                #107
                This is pretty interesting. Sure it may prove that Jesus didnt resurrect, or atleast not in flesh and blood. But on the flip side, it could prove that there was a Jesus, and a Magdelena. And why were the burried in stone tombs in a cave ? Back in the day those funeral spots were for the royals only, they must have had some sort of "importance" in the community, not just a carpenter... I a definitively looking forward to the documentary, this is going to be big.
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                • pocketkangaroo
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                  #108
                  I've been reading that most scientists think it's just a big media thing to build ratings to the show. Apparently the name was not uncommon during that time and historic timetables show that it was unlikely he was buried there.

                  I'm not religious in anyway, but I just have a feeling this is a big publicity stunt.

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                  • wizhard
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
                    This is pretty interesting. Sure it may prove that Jesus didnt resurrect, or atleast not in flesh and blood. But on the flip side, it could prove that there was a Jesus, and a Magdelena. And why were the burried in stone tombs in a cave ? Back in the day those funeral spots were for the royals only, they must have had some sort of "importance" in the community, not just a carpenter... I a definitively looking forward to the documentary, this is going to be big.


                    There's plenty of evidence to suggest that Jesus definately was of royal decent, ( an Egyptian prince in exile who's lineage can be traced back to King David and probably even further into the dynastic Kings and Queens of ancient Egypt ), but for centuries this somewhat embarrasing fact has been covered up by the Church.

                    As for Jesus being a carpenter - there is in fact no evidence outside the new testament that this was ever the case. A much more likely scenario would be that Jesus would have inhertited the title "Gods Carpenter", ( a common Pharonic title ), from his father Joseph.
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                    • polle54
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                      #110
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                      • Tom_PM
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                        #111
                        Well the word is that Mary and Joseph etc were some of the most common names of the times. And proving the jesus and mary bones are not blood related is then presumed to mean that therefore they were married. But remember they found like 10 peoples bones in there, and no way to know for absolute sure if any two were married or not. Also saying things like why would Jesus be buried in jeruselem when he was from nazareth, and this was a very RICH persons grave site, while Jesus was extremely poor.

                        Now, I would say if the bones of the child could be proven with mitochondrial DNA to be descended directly from the female bones, you COULD say the baby was this or that womans child.

                        Anyway, pretty intriguing stuff regardless.
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                        • Simon IA Cash
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                          #112
                          If you're willing to believe he was resurrected at all, you could definitely believe his spirit came back in a human form, and it didn't have to be the same bones.

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                          • Theo
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                            #113
                            duh, I had Pausania the spartan general in mind when i said he was born before christ (not the explorer Pausania). Anyhow, Lysias name is false for sure since he lived during Plato era.

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                            • chartgraves

                              #114
                              waiting for this news conference - anyone have any info?

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                              • split_joel
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                                #115
                                well this isnt going to be a big deal because christians and catholics will say this is just the devil speaking and its not true.
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                                • TheJimmy
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by RawAlex
                                  Bad week to be pope.
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                                  • tranza
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                                    #117
                                    Here we go again.
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                                    • Big Red Machine
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Tat2Jr
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                                      • anne
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                                        #119
                                        [QUOTE=split_joel;11977184]well this isnt going to be a big deal because christians and catholics will say this is just the devil speaking and its not true.[/Q

                                        Pretty much. The same thing happen with the dead sea scrolls
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                                        • LadyMischief
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                          i don't see how any dna could have been preserved for so long
                                          They have extracted DNA from Pharoahs mummies that are far older than these bones are supposed to be. Hell they've extracted DNA from Dinosaurs now, there was a documentary about it on Discovery not that long ago.

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                                          • reptile
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                                            #121
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                                            • SleazyDream
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                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                              i have always thought the anti-christ was going to end up being someone who proves jesus was a fake.. and that judegment day was nothing more than christians having to come to the realisation that it was just a guide not a true story
                                              archelogical evidence has proved many things in the bible thought to be fables to be true though.......
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                                              • 96ukssob
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                                                #123
                                                not to take any sides here... but how in hell do you have DNA proof? did he find a jar of spit labeled "Jesus's Spit" to compare it against?

                                                seems pretty silly to me
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                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                  archelogical evidence has proved many things in the bible thought to be fables to be true though.......
                                                  archelogical evidence has prove many more things in the bible to be false than true. Most of the "true" findings have been shoved into a box with a sledge hammer to make it fit the bible.

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                                                  • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                    #125
                                                    [QUOTE=anne;11978433]
                                                    Originally posted by split_joel
                                                    well this isnt going to be a big deal because christians and catholics will say this is just the devil speaking and its not true.[/Q

                                                    Pretty much. The same thing happen with the dead sea scrolls
                                                    The Nag Hammadi. Good read

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                                                    • StickyGreen
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                                                      #126
                                                      James Cameron is supposed to be on Larry King in about a half hour to talk about it...
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                                                      • mrtrades
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                        James Cameron is supposed to be on Larry King in about a half hour to talk about it...
                                                        do you know what hour?
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                                                        • Richardhead005
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                                                          #128
                                                          mell gibson is gonna beat the fuck outta james cameron then make a movie of how bad he beat the fuck out of him


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                                                          • Redmanthatcould
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                            Bad week to be pope.

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                                                            • bonkerz2007
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                                                              #130
                                                              it's going to hit the fan....

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                                                              • pornpf69
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                                                                #131
                                                                thanks for sharing the info

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                                                                • wizhard
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                  archelogical evidence has prove many more things in the bible to be false than true. Most of the "true" findings have been shoved into a box with a sledge hammer to make it fit the bible.

                                                                  I agree. There is very little real evidence to support the Bible's version of events and what scraps have been found are often somewhat tenious to say the least.

                                                                  However if we look to Egypt as the true source of the Biblical stories, ( both old and new testament ),then many of the characters and events stated in the Bible can be reliably linked with real occurences, places and people.
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                                                                  • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by wizhard
                                                                    I agree. There is very little real evidence to support the Bible's version of events and what scraps have been found are often somewhat tenious to say the least.

                                                                    However if we look to Egypt as the true source of the Biblical stories, ( both old and new testament ),then many of the characters and events stated in the Bible can be reliably linked with real occurences, places and people.
                                                                    Most of exodus has been proven wrong by Zahi Hawass. The people may have been right, the dates were mostly wrong, the events were wrong. First and foremost, the pyramids were NOT created by jewish slaves.

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                                                                    • wizhard
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                      Most of exodus has been proven wrong by Zahi Hawass. The people may have been right, the dates were mostly wrong, the events were wrong. First and foremost, the pyramids were NOT created by jewish slaves.

                                                                      Yes, Exodus is quite a good example of the misinformation contained in the Bible. Unless we are to belive that there were two Exodus's that were allmost identical in every detail, ( extremely unlikely ), then we must conclude that the Jews deliberatly altered the circumstances surrounding their flight from Egypt probably as a peice of propgander to try to hide the fact that they were quite literally kicked out of the land in upper Egypt that they had squatted on some 200 years earlier after migrating from their original home in Syria.
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                                                                      • gideongallery
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by DarkJedi
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                                                                        • spider_x
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Fuck I repented for nothing. HIS soul is still rotting in hell and the human race never really was saved. Everyone's going to hell no matter what but at least now the religious right and all those catholic priest child molesters won't have any more ammo. Or whats the call on this one, ref? He died for sins but isnt resting with his Father? He went to Hell when he died right? So that means he would technically still be there as he would have had to be resurrected and then rise into heaven. This is really fucked up. The world's going to burst into chaos.
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                                                                          • Tempest
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            Well the word is that Mary and Joseph etc were some of the most common names of the times.
                                                                            But finding all of the names of that family in one tomb is something like 2,000,000 : 1, 900 : 1 from the most conservative stat person.

                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            And proving the jesus and mary bones are not blood related is then presumed to mean that therefore they were married.
                                                                            Given the names, the other documents etc. that were left out of the bible, would tend to point that direction... I wonder if they did any other DNA tests among the family to "prove" that they were related or not.


                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            But remember they found like 10 peoples bones in there, and no way to know for absolute sure if any two were married or not.
                                                                            Very true.

                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            Also saying things like why would Jesus be buried in jeruselem when he was from nazareth, and this was a very RICH persons grave site, while Jesus was extremely poor.
                                                                            Where was he first burried and resurected from? Sort of makes sense given he died there to be burried there, especially if the Romans etc. were influencing the situation. As for him being poor or not, I don't see where that would really matter. You'd only need one rich support to get the cash to be burried in a place like that.

                                                                            Here's a thought. What if his followers etc. actually took his body from the first tomb and moved it to a different one in order to ensure no one did anything to his body etc. Given the controversy over him at the time, that sort of makes sense as well. Just look at the crap over where Anna is going to be burried.

                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            Now, I would say if the bones of the child could be proven with mitochondrial DNA to be descended directly from the female bones, you COULD say the baby was this or that womans child.
                                                                            Yeah, I wish they had talked about whether they had done more DNA testing than just those 2 bodies.. Guess I'll have to wait and see what they really did.

                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                            Anyway, pretty intriguing stuff regardless.
                                                                            Definately. The 2 religeous guys on Larry King just came accross as morons as they argued broad strokes and not what the guy was actually saying. How many times did the guy say that the DNA showed that the Jesus and Mary weren't related and yet they kept going on and on about "how could DNA prove it was Jesus"... Morons.

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                                                                            • RF_Erick
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              Did anyone watch the documentary?
                                                                              It was on discovery channel last night.
                                                                              It was very interesting.

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                                                                              • Meredith18
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                Tried to watch it last night but alas, it wasn't on Canadian satellite. Had to watch Deal or No Deal instead
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                                                                                • Elly Vaine
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  We all believe in something.
                                                                                  But i don't believe that that these bones belongs to Jesus and his family. Is not that i don't want to shake my faith,is not possible to be just somebody's else grave and to be coincidencially called same?
                                                                                  Like in our days, many people are called Jessus, Maria ,Magdalena(Jesus mostly in South America,and Maria and Magdalena in Europe,mostly Greece.
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                                                                                  • Cman
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Well If Its On Tv And Produced By A Major Hollywood Director, Then It Must Be True!!!!
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                                                                                    • Amadora
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      I just can't understand where did they take the DNA of Jesus to prove that those bones have the same DNA.
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                                                                                      • ADL Colin
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by Amadora
                                                                                        I just can't understand where did they take the DNA of Jesus to prove that those bones have the same DNA.
                                                                                        The didn't claim that they compared DNA from the bones to Jesus' DNA.

                                                                                        They claimed that the mitochondrial DNA of "Jesus" and "Mary" (hypothesis:Magdalene) were not related so it is possible they were married.


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                                                                                        • Amadora
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Anyway. I think it's all just a promotion of his forecomming documentary movie.
                                                                                          i wouldn't believe it untill i here more info from more reliable sources.
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                                                                                          • Onixia
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                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                                                                            You are going to hell for posting this.

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                                                                                            • ADL Colin
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by Amadora
                                                                                              Anyway. I think it's all just a promotion of his forecomming documentary movie.
                                                                                              i wouldn't believe it untill i here more info from more reliable sources.
                                                                                              The documentary was already on. Am I missing something or are you a time traveler?


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                                                                                              • TBrown
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                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler
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                                                                                                • dRI-X
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  hollywood.hollywood. though nice thoughts are shared.


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                                                                                                  • Nodtveidt
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Hollywood stunt intended to shake up the Christians. Call it Mel Gibson II.

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                                                                                                    • Nodtveidt
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Arg, stupid double post!

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