Jesus died in a gang bang
Bones of JESUS found! Christians SHOCKED!
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The DNA testing wasnt done to determine the bones were from Jesus the DNA testing were done to see if each set of bones was family. The tomb marked "Jesus" and the tomb marked "Mary Magdalene" were found by DNA testing to not be related, which could only mean they were husband and wife as they were buried in the same tomb.Comment
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I wasn't saying that to you.What the fuck are you talking about? I am Christian I went to Christian schools I know what the Shroud of Turin is and I know what scientists have said about it. But just to appease your ignorant ass...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
I was talking to DorkJedi.... he heard someone speak of it once upon a time and poked his nose in here all high and mighty like he knew the secrets of the universe.Comment
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Wow! check out the discussion posts at the bottom of the page, LOOOOOL.
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February 25, 2007
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See Stu, this is much like the last thread where I apologized: one person can read the exact same words but interpret them differently than another. And it really is quite fascinating when you put it into perspective that it's been happening since the written word has existed.Your post count means nothing.Comment
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Actually its StuartDs fault that I read that wrong, he quoted us out of order, in order to express what he wanted to express Stuart should have quoted DarkJedi first THEN my comment which was in response to DarkJedis comment... instead he quoted DarkJedi after my comment which made it seem like DarkJedi was answering me and StuartD agreeing with him.See Stu, this is much like the last thread where I apologized: one person can read the exact same words but interpret them differently than another. And it really is quite fascinating when you put it into perspective that it's been happening since the written word has existed.Last edited by Splum; 02-25-2007, 08:19 AM.Comment
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Actually its StuartDs fault that I read that wrong, he quoted us out of order, in order to express what he wanted to express Stuart should have quoted DarkJedi first THEN my comment which was in response to DarkJedis comment... instead he quoted DarkJedi after my comment which made it seem like DarkJedi was answering me and StuartD agreeing with him.
If the DNA from the Shroud and the newfound bones match, it most probably is Jesus.Comment
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Paul and the writers of all four canonical Gospels described the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, as they understood it had happened. There is a acknowledged consensus among academic Christian theologians that:
* The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by Jesus' disciples but by a person or persons whose names are unknown.
* Neither Paul nor any of the Gospel writers had been an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry or death.
* The Gospels record the beliefs and memories of various Christian groups as they had evolved at the time they were written.
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There is no reference to Jesus' death having any redeeming function; in fact, there is no mention of the crucifixion at all. John E. Remsburg's The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence, lists the following writers who lived during the time, or within a century after the time, that Jesus is supposed to have lived:
* Josephus
* Philo-Judææus
* Seneca
* Pliny Elder
* Arrian
* Petronius
* Dion Pruseus
* Paterculus
* Suetonius
* Juvenal
* Martial
* Persius
* Plutarch
* Pliny Younger
* Tacitus
* Justus of Tiberius
* Apollonius
* Quintilian
* Lucanus
* Epictetus
* Hermogones Silius Italicus
* Statius
* Ptolemy
* Appian
* Phlegon
* Phæædrus
* Valerius Maximus
* Lucian
* Pausanias
* Florus Lucius
* Quintius Curtius
* Aulus Gellius
* Dio Chrysostom
* Columella
* Valerius Flaccus
* Damis
* Favorinus
* Lysias
* Pomponius Mela
* Appion of Alexandria
* Theon of Smyrna
Enough of the writings of the authors named in the foregoing list remains to form a library. Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, according to Remsburg, "aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ." Nor, do any of these authors make note of the Disciples or Apostles --

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clearly a fake like the 1000s of other shrouds that were made by everyone and his brother to try to lay claim to Jesus's fame and power.
Easiest way to tell the shroud is fake... cover your face in paint then when the paint is still wet take a white sheet and wrap your head in it. Then remove the white sheet. What does the paint on the sheet look like? It is distorted and stretched out from ear to ear almost doubling the width of your face. The same thing would have happened to the shroud if Jesus had burnt his image into it.
Simple surface area problem.
next....
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facts:
Paul and the writers of all four canonical Gospels described the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, as they understood it had happened. There is a acknowledged consensus among academic Christian theologians that:
* The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by Jesus' disciples but by a person or persons whose names are unknown.
* Neither Paul nor any of the Gospel writers had been an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry or death.
* The Gospels record the beliefs and memories of various Christian groups as they had evolved at the time they were written.
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Jesus is obviously the greatest conspiracy in history. You are right he never existed, please tell the billions of muslims, christians, jews, as well as hundreds of thousands of scholars, scientists, archaeologists they are all wrong because a man named Jesus lived 2000 years ago.Enough of the writings of the authors named in the foregoing list remains to form a library. Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, according to Remsburg, "aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ." Nor, do any of these authors make note of the Disciples or Apostles --
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The church will never allow this to be completely proven, and give it a shroud of question, and say " God works in mysterious ways."PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
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Oh shit that would be kind of freaky, cloning his DNA. WOW that dude would be like a living Jesus. I cant even imagine somehting crazy like that happening, he would be pimping it big time thats for sure.ThisWillShockYou.com DVD Store - TWSY UNCENSORED
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Now if they could just prove Christianity, Islam, and every other religion to be a farse then every war would be over with and we'd all live in peace.Comment
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Lol some of you guys, they didnt MATCH his DNA to anything they did DNA tests to see if the bones were related to each other, the "Jesus" bones and the "Mary Magdalene" bones didnt match therefore they suggest they two were husband and wife being buried in the same tomb.Comment
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Unfortunately that will never happen - weak people since the beginning of time have had to create some more powerful "thing" to believe in to explain things they dont understand - the bigger religions were just better at enslaving humans to ideas and have flourished ever since - as long as you have sheep there will be some sort of religion - stupid people have an insatiable need to be told what to do with their lives
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"Weak people"? Its "weak" to have faith in something? So if you have faith in yourself you are "weak"? Sure the "weak" minded can be influenced but surely you are not arguing that every single person who believes in some form of "faith" weak minded?Unfortunately that will never happen - weak people since the beginning of time have had to create some more powerful "thing" to believe in to explain things they dont understand - the bigger religions were just better at enslaving humans to ideas and have flourished ever since - as long as you have sheep there will be some sort of religion - stupid people have an insatiable need to be told what to do with their lives
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Yep and in the first version of the bible Mary wasn't a virgin that was changed later.facts:
Paul and the writers of all four canonical Gospels described the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, as they understood it had happened. There is a acknowledged consensus among academic Christian theologians that:
* The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by Jesus' disciples but by a person or persons whose names are unknown.
* Neither Paul nor any of the Gospel writers had been an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry or death.
* The Gospels record the beliefs and memories of various Christian groups as they had evolved at the time they were written.
____________
There is no reference to Jesus' death having any redeeming function; in fact, there is no mention of the crucifixion at all. John E. Remsburg's The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence, lists the following writers who lived during the time, or within a century after the time, that Jesus is supposed to have lived:
* Josephus
* Philo-Judææus
* Seneca
* Pliny Elder
* Arrian
* Petronius
* Dion Pruseus
* Paterculus
* Suetonius
* Juvenal
* Martial
* Persius
* Plutarch
* Pliny Younger
* Tacitus
* Justus of Tiberius
* Apollonius
* Quintilian
* Lucanus
* Epictetus
* Hermogones Silius Italicus
* Statius
* Ptolemy
* Appian
* Phlegon
* Phæædrus
* Valerius Maximus
* Lucian
* Pausanias
* Florus Lucius
* Quintius Curtius
* Aulus Gellius
* Dio Chrysostom
* Columella
* Valerius Flaccus
* Damis
* Favorinus
* Lysias
* Pomponius Mela
* Appion of Alexandria
* Theon of Smyrna
Enough of the writings of the authors named in the foregoing list remains to form a library. Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, according to Remsburg, "aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ." Nor, do any of these authors make note of the Disciples or Apostles --
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yes, its "weak" to have faith... deal w/ it. religion is a crutch for primitive hominids to deal w/ their surrounding, environment and sentience that should have been discarded long ago... it causes nothing but bigotry, hatred and shame in the modern world.
while i have my doubts that this supposed find can be proven definitively one way or the other, it would be such a boon to mankind to have the entire sham of the resurrection exposed as the fairy tale it, and most all religious mythos are..
...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..Comment
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Having faith in yourself is one thing, having faith in 2000 year old fairy stories is another.Comment
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I thought I spelled out my ideas clearly enough to speak to this - but yes - if you have "faith" in yourself that is what is important - if you have to lay your faith outside yourself then obviously you are so weak you have to be told what to think instead of doing it from within yourself
Yes I am arguing (actually just stating - I dont see any argument in it) that anyone that has to believe in a faith outside of themselves, is by definition weak mindedComment
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Goddamn there are some stupid motherfuckers on this board...Comment
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