Skeptics: You still don't belive that Katrina was intentionally created?

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  • xlogger
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    • Jul 2004
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    #101
    Tin foil time.




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    • Drake
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      • Mar 2003
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      #102
      101 sordid truths

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      • xlogger
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        #103
        Originally posted by Mike33
        101 sordid truths
        sike! no! 102 beyachhh!

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        • TurboAngel
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          • Jun 2003
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          #104
          Originally posted by xlogger
          Tin foil time.





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          • NoCarrier
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            • Mar 2002
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            #105
            Originally posted by xlogger
            Tin foil time.



            OWNED.

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            • xlogger
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              • Jul 2004
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              #106
              Damn! Hotlink OWNED! Thats just bullshit!

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              • $$$
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                • Jul 2005
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                #107
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                • potter
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #108
                  Ok Ok.. So let me get this straight. Someone started the hurricane, using some invisible machine which just kind of held back billions and billions of cubic feet of atmosphere as well as billions of gallons of ocean water so they could create the proper conditions to start the storm. Then spent months training it in geology and politics. So they could finally yell "Mississippi! Kill!" at it and off it would go?

                  Hmm.. Your theories intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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                  • Mr. Rhee
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 13

                    #109
                    Intriguing thread. Though the shadow weather-control/manipulation technology exists in different forms (well-documented), no substantial evidence it was used for Katrina/New Orleans.

                    Just for fun, I searched for any potential motives at Google news for a few terms including:

                    "Katrina +Halliburton"

                    found this:


                    Halliburton Subsidiary Taps Contract For Repairs
                    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...401193_pf.html

                    By Lolita C. Baldor
                    Associated Press
                    Monday, September 5, 2005

                    An Arlington-based Halliburton Co. subsidiary that has been criticized for its reconstruction work in Iraq has begun tapping a $500 million Navy contract to do emergency repairs at Gulf Coast naval and Marine facilities damaged by Hurricane Katrina.

                    The subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown & Root Services Inc., won the competitive bid contract last July to provide debris removal and other emergency work associated with natural disasters.

                    Jan Davis, a spokeswoman for the Naval Facilities Engineering Command, said yesterday that KBR would receive $12 million for work at the Naval Air Station at Pascagoula, Miss., the Naval Station at Gulfport, Miss., and Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. KBR will receive $4.6 million for work at two smaller Navy facilities in New Orleans and others in the South.

                    The company has provided similar work after major disasters in the United States and abroad for more than 15 years, including in Florida after Hurricane Andrew.

                    KBR has been at the center of scrutiny for receiving a five-year, no-bid contract to restore Iraqi oil fields shortly before the war began in 2003. Halliburton has reported being paid $10.7 billion for Iraq-related government work during 2003 and 2004. The company reported its pretax profits from that work as $163 million. Pentagon auditors have questioned tens of millions of dollars of Halliburton charges for its operations there.

                    Last month three congressional Democrats asked Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to investigate the demotion of a senior civilian Army official, Bunnatine H. Greenhouse, who publicly criticized the awarding of that contract.

                    Vice President Cheney headed Halliburton from 1995 to 2000, and Democrats have questioned whether the firm received favorable treatment because of his connection.
                    The HoustonChronicle reported this back on September 1, I believe this was BEFORE official large-scale Evac/Rescue was announced.
                    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...siness/3335685


                    Interesting side note, very recent Halliburton controversy:
                    Army Contract Official Critical of Halliburton Pact Is Demoted
                    New York Times, United States - Aug 29, 2005
                    A top Army contracting official who criticized a large, noncompetitive contract with the Halliburton Company for work in Iraq was demoted Saturday for what the ...
                    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/29/in...icle_popular_5

                    Army demotes Halliburton contract critic
                    Chicago Tribune, United States - Aug 29, 2005
                    By Erik Eckholm. A top Army contracting official who criticized a large, noncompetitive contract with the Halliburton Co. for work ...
                    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed



                    BTW, Halliburton moved its headquarters to Houston from Dallas in 2003. Perhaps this has something to do with why Houston's Astrodome was chosen as first EVAC site. ??? I wondered why Houston was the first to offer up their city.

                    Also, the Astrodome just got its' own ZIP CODE:
                    The US Postal Service has assigned ZIP Code 77230 to the Houston Astrodome for general mail delivery to those victims of Hurricane Katrina. The 40-year-old Astrodome hasn't been used for professional sporting events in years. The Astrodome helped put Houston on the map four decades ago. It still stands but is dwarfed by Reliant Stadium, the Houston Texans' newly constructed home.

                    The city also has called in top corporations to help with the effort. Microsoft has been asked to develop a program to help reunite families, and Halliburton has been requested to share the expertise that it has used to house troops in Iraq in order to set up tent cities in Houston

                    Lots of conspiracy theories out there. Believe what you will. I'm not really into all this stuff, just found it interesting.
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                    • Tat2Jr
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 4882

                      #110
                      Ok, I went to visit the sites.

                      Bunch of arrows pointing at different dots in the middle of a CAT 5 huricane. I'm not sure what they were suppose to be pointing out.

                      But since it was on the internet, and someone spent a lot of time putting arrows on pictures....... it must be true.
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                      • Mr. Rhee
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 13

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                        But since it was on the internet, and someone spent a lot of time putting arrows on pictures....... it must be true.




                        On another note:
                        if you search Google for Weather Control, Manmade Disasters, etc, you'll find lots of links to people discussing the reports/rumors of communications/radio jamming going on in and around the Katrina disaster area. Lots of HAM radio operators complaining about it on sites I can't link to because they are forums/boards but google them and you will see many questions/complaints/frustrations over the mystery jamming going on.

                        Seen lots of comments like this these:

                        "On the 2nd day the gov shut down cell phone towers in NO. Can anyone explain the purpose in that? Nobody can call for help... It's obvious that they're created a bigger disaster for some reason?"
                        This was a FEMA Operation, from start to finish. Testing things out. Testing the moving of people, into concentrated areas.
                        This would seem to bolster your no foreign assistance = no witnesses comment. As paranoid as they are, they must be hiding something real good.
                        At the radio station we have three ham radio frequencies for weather spotters and emergency radio. All three tonight were full of local ham operators LIVID, and I mean absolutely PISSED!
                        All ham and citizen's band radio frequencies are being jammed all around the areas hit by the hurricane.
                        Not a single hammer from the area can get through and none can be raised for miles around the area.
                        The local guys are all adamant that there is only one way this could occur, and I don't need to tell you what they are all saying.
                        The local president of the ham operators club has already started a page for ham operators to log the interference patterns and frequencies to make an official record of this.
                        Why would public radio frequencies be being jammed? Wouldn't they be a way for folks with a battery operated radio and/or a generator and a radio to call for help or at least get in contact with the outside?
                        Why would all such frequencies and bands be being blocked? All of them.

                        If any of you know any hammers or CB enthusiasts, particularly around the hurricane destruction zones, verify it for yourself.
                        I heard the same guys who do weather spotting and other important tasks for local FEMA and NOAA just GOING OFF about this tonight. For hours and hours.

                        Our government is blocking citizen band radio broadcasts inside a disaster zone, preventing locals from making reports or getting help.

                        Why?

                        Plus, other conspiracy blogs (sites I've never heard of until now) are reporting/regurgitating this:

                        Source: waynemadsen

                        September 2, 2005 -- Who is jamming communications in New Orleans? Ham radio operators are reporting that communications in and around New Orleans are being jammed. In addition, perplexed ham radio operators who were enlisted by the Federal government in 911 are not being used for hurricane Katrina Federal relief efforts. There is some misinformation circulating on the web that the jamming is the resault of solar flares.

                        Ham radio operators report that the flares are not the source of the communications jamming. If anyone at the National Security Agency is aware of the source of the jamming, from direction finding or satellite intelligence, please discretely contact me at REMOVED (from a private or temporary email account).

                        In this case, the Bush administration cannot hide behind national security and it is the duty of every patriotic American to report such criminal activity to the press. Even though the information on the jamming may be considered classified -- it is in the public interest to disclose it. Also, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is reporting that no aircraft over New Orleans have been fired on over New Orleans or anywhere else in the area. Are the reports of shots being fired at aircraft an attempt by the Bush administration to purposely delay the arrival of relief to the city's homeless and dying poor? The neocons have turned New Orleans into Baghdad on the Mississippi.

                        UPDATE: We can now report that the jamming of New Orleans' communications is emanating from a pirate radio station in the Caribbean. The noise is continuous and it is jamming frequencies, including emergency high frequency (HF) radios, in the New Orleans area. The radio frequency jammers were heard last night, stopped for a while, and are active again today. The Pentagon must locate the positions of these transmitters and order the Air Force to bomb them immediately.

                        However, we now have a new unconfirmed report that the culprit may be the Pentagon itself. The emitter is an IF (Intermediate Frequency) jammer that is operating south southwest of New Orleans on board a U.S. Navy ship, according to an anonymous source. The jamming is cross-spectrum and interfering with superheterodyne receiver components, including the emergency radios being used in New Orleans relief efforts. The jammed frequencies are:

                        72.0MHZ (high end of Channel 4 WWL TV New Orleans)
                        45.0MHZ (fixed mobile)
                        10.245MHZ (fixed mobile)
                        10.240 Mhz (fixed mobile)
                        11.340 Mhz (aeronautical mobile)
                        233 MHZ (fixed mobile)
                        455 IF (jammer)

                        A former DoD source says the U.S. Army uses a portable jammer, known as WARLOCK, in Iraq and this jammer may be similar to the one that is jamming the emergency frequencies.

                        UPDATE Sep. 3 -- A Vancouver, British Columbia Urban Search & Rescue Team deployed to New Orleans reported that their satellite phones were not working and they had to obtain other satellite phones to keep in touch with their headquarters and other emergency agencies in British Columbia.

                        There is a report on a ham radio web site that jamming is adversely affecting the New Orleans emergency net on 14.265 Mhz.

                        If a U.S. Navy ship is, in fact, jamming New Orleans communications, the crew must immediately shut down the jammer and take action against the Commanding Officer.

                        ***

                        We have just learned from a journalist in Mobile that yesterday, Sprint blocked all cell phone calls from the Gulf Coast region to points north and west. Calls were permitted between Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida but no calls could be made to Washington, New York, or Los Angeles

                        September 4, 2005 -- Reports continue that communications in and around New Orleans are being purposely jammed (and severed) by the US government (see Sep. 2 article below). The jamming is having an adverse impact on emergency, disaster recovery, and news media communications. The jamming is even affecting police radio frequencies in Jefferson Parish, according to an Australian news report. The President of Jefferson Parish Aaron Broussard told Meet the Press today that FEMA cut his parish's emergency communications lines and he had to have his sheriff restore the severed lines and post armed deputies to ensure that FEMA did not try to cut the communications lines again. Broussard's statement: "Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, 'No one is getting near these lines.'"

                        Jamming radio and other communications such as television signals is part of a Pentagon tactic called "information blockade" or "technology blockade." The tactic is one of a number of such operations that are part of the doctrine of "information warfare" and is one of the psychological operations (PSYOPS) methods used by the US Special Operations Command. Jamming is currently being used by US forces in Iraq and was used by the US Navy in the botched coup attempt against President Hugo Chavez in April 2002. US Navy ships off the Venezuelan coast jammed diplomatic, military, emergency services, police, and even taxi cab frequencies in Caracas and other large cities.





                        Hmmm.... so i checked Google for the DoD jammer mentioned above: "Warlock +DoD" and found this:
                        July 2005
                        http://www.cotsjournalonline.com/hom....php?id=100371
                        It does exist and is being widely used in IRAQ and according to defenselink.mil:

                        http://www.defenselink.mil/contracts...t20031218.html
                        EDO Communication and Countermeasures, Simi, Valley, Calif., was awarded on Dec. 17, 2003, a $15,923,908 firm-fixed-price contract for 167 Warlock Greens and 1000 Warlock Reds for Operation Enduring Freedom/Operation Iraqi Freedom
                        http://www.defenselink.mil/contracts...t20050118.html
                        EDO Communications and Countermeasures, Westlake Village, Calif., was awarded on Jan. 13, 2005, a $56,133,186 modification to a firm-fixed-price contract for 720 Warlock Green and 720 Warlock Red Electronic Countermeasure Devices in a combined, single system configuration with associated Dual Band Antennas. Work will be performed in Simi Valley, Calif., and is expected to be completed by May 30, 2005. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year.

                        I would have loved to bid on that contract. I wonder why MSM isn't reporting on the jamming? Time will tell.
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                        • Holly
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                          • Jun 2003
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                          #112
                          This thread reeks of AlienQ.
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                          • SmokeyTheBear
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                            • Jun 2004
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                            Btw.. most researches/investigators write books.. does that mean that all the them are bogus?
                            Only the ones that make most of their profit(livelyhood) from books.

                            just like i don't trust conspiracy nuts who's only job is thinking up new conspiracy's.

                            There are legit questions, and then there are absurd correlations..
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                            • StatsJunky
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 639

                              #114
                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                              its funny how the guy on this page

                              http://www.weatherwars.info/Katrina.htm

                              spent alot of time making up scientific facts , but he ruined it all in the very first line..

                              "Ivan and Katrina

                              These are both very Russian sounding names"


                              umm perhaps he doesn't know how hurricanes are named
                              I was going to read it but finished after that line too.

                              Here's a list of what they could have used to name it.

                              Arlene
                              Bret
                              Cindy
                              Dennis
                              Emily
                              Franklin
                              Gert
                              Harvey
                              Irene
                              Jose
                              Katrina
                              Lee
                              Maria
                              Nate
                              Ophelia
                              Philippe
                              Rita
                              Stan
                              Tammy
                              Vince
                              Wilma
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                              • adamthick
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                                • Apr 2004
                                • 377

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Tam
                                Would this be it right here? LOL

                                Space Preservation Act of 2001 , it isn't 30 years old, but I found it while looking for this damn show I watched.

                                (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
                                Nah. The item i was referring to is from the 60's or 70's...its a very old law, thats recent. But your item references even more high tech weapon shit that is probably way more advanced than weather control apparatus.

                                LOOK: For everyone that can't fathom this concept, an refuse to believe its possible, look up > HAARP.

                                As for why would anyone want to destroy N.O.? I don't know. All I got is a theory. But if you think it was to take out a few thousand poor people your not seein the bigger picture. It certainly wasn't about that. Anyone remember about a year, year an a half ago when the whole east coast went Black? Lights out? We even lost power here in MI....the shit was ridiculous, but it wasn't a terrorist attack, or a grid malfunction.....it was a TEST. Just like this was "probably" a test....FEMA didn't respond like it should have, an thats cuz after 9/11 they were absorbed into "Homeland Security"...(the last country i recall that had that was Germany, circa 1940's ) , the reason they didn't respond was cuz they now have to answer to the 'terrorist police' who control homeland security, and simply are not concerned with natural disaster type shit.
                                N.O. did tests, and conducted research on this very scenario back in '99, 2k, and they knew, they knew exactly what needed to be done.....but "someone" spent the $ on some other shit. guess who?

                                Beyond that, I saw the former FEMA Director on CNN tonite talkin about the devastation, an discussing it....guess what he does now? He OWNS a Disaster Recovery Company!! Yes! Former FEMA director an pals, who own all the companies that will rebuild and revitalize N.O. will profit handsomely from the devastation. You can't take out MI, ATL, or LA, or NY, with some shit like that, cuz they have too many resources to get to the bottom of it...but you start small, knockin out lil states that have no resources...what are they gonna do about it?? Nuthin. Blast 'em. Rebuild. G>W. an pals make millions an millions, an on to the next venture.

                                Its all about the $$$. And testing new technology. I find it alarming that "they" are now pulling this typa shit in our own country, dissing Americans like this ...back when, they used to test out their shit in latin america an south america all throughout the 50's, 60's an 70's.

                                Before you jump down my throat I studied this shit at SUNY. (and other places)

                                You can't force anyone to see whats up, or make 'em believe shit, you can just point 'em in the right direction an hope they see the writing on the wall before its too late. (straps on tinfoil beenie, crawls back into oxygen chamber an hits perimeter security button)


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                                • $$$
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                                  #116
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                                  • Mr. Rhee
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                                    • Sep 2005
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by $$$
                                    Bump. This thread owns.
                                    there's even more conspiracy/controversy today. just search google for terms mentioned above.
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                                    • KRL
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                                      #118
                                      Theoretically you could have a satellite based weapon in space grabbing solar radiation and then amplifying it through a laser and redirecting the focused energy particle beam into the core of a hurricane to influence its energy pattern.
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                                      • Heywood Jablome
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                        Theoretically you could have a satellite based weapon in space grabbing solar radiation and then amplifying it through a laser and redirecting the focused energy particle beam into the core of a hurricane to influence its energy pattern.
                                        I wonder if it would make a giant fireball?

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                                        • Brujah
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157

                                          #120
                                          The Great New Orleans Land Grab

                                          Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and, what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breached levee.

                                          http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_land_grab.htm

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                                          • adamthick
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                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 377

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                            The Great New Orleans Land Grab

                                            Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and, what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breached levee.

                                            http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_land_grab.htm
                                            Wow. I heard that on the news tha day it happened, an we were talkin about it...then, within the span of like 3 hours, the report had totally changed, and even my dad was sayin, 'no, it was actually...(this/that), NOT the original report of agents vs. cops, or cops vs. cops....

                                            The real story was sandbagged cuz they didn't want the general public to find out the real story. Man, I'd love to hear the real deal on this shit.

                                            Point blank: I think 5 "agents" got shot, cuz they flat out were tryin to blow out those levees. Think about it. The storm didn't knock them out. They blew, "suddenly" and "after the fact"....yea, cuz they were prolly blown out with C4. My T-beenie keeps fallin off...i know, i'm a nutjob.
                                            Last edited by adamthick; 09-21-2005, 10:56 PM.


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                                            • Marshal
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                                              #122
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                                              • CynthiaB
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                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 1274

                                                #123
                                                Did you guys see Invasion on TV last night? Eerily like Katrina and rumblings of a government / military conspiracy. . . good stuff.

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