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  • pocketkangaroo
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    • Jan 2005
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    #16
    Originally posted by kandah
    Problem is that this was not passed by most states, they just kind of did it anyway.
    42 states ratified it. Two-thirds is all that was needed.

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    • The Duck
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      #17
      Alright, you keep living in ignorance, I dont care.
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      • pocketkangaroo
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        #18
        Originally posted by kandah
        Alright, you keep living in ignorance, I dont care.
        Those are all facts. I'm sorry that you have nothing to back up your argument. You can't provide any court cases after 1913, can't discredit the ratification process, can't really do much of anything to dispute it.

        Take it as a lesson not to believe everything you see on YouTube.

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        • The Duck
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          • May 2005
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          #19
          http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+to+fascism

          Yes MR Kangoroo, now I understand why the fascist have gotten as far as they have in america, because of people like you. "Just because they say its so it must be so, lets watch tv!"
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          • juz
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            • May 2006
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            #20
            Originally posted by kandah
            Alright, you keep living in ignorance, I dont care.
            You're the one living in ignorance, taking the word of some movie as fact, do your own research. Look at it this way, do you think in past 100 years the rich and powerful of America would paying income tax if they didn't have to?
            Why are they paying high priced attorneys and accounts to find loopholes in the tax laws and set up tax shelters if the US government has no right to tax our income?
            They have the means for the research and legal backing to fight it but they don't..... Hmmmmmmmmmm

            My suggestion to you is to go read on how amendments are ratified and become law, go read law books not watch a biased movie with an agenda to meet.

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            • The Duck
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              #21
              Woodrow Wilson, The man who signed the federal reserve act said this:

              "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
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              • pocketkangaroo
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                #22
                Originally posted by kandah
                http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+to+fascism

                Yes MR Kangoroo, now I understand why the fascist have gotten as far as they have in america, because of people like you. "Just because they say its so it must be so, lets watch tv!"
                I didn't say anything was true. The states, courts, and people did. Your argument is with them, not me. They put the Amendment in place, the states voted it in, and the courts upheld every attack on it. I am not arguing about income taxes, I'm just saying that his arguments about it not being constitutional are wrong.

                I also don't see why you are so upset with our income tax. Our taxes make Sweden's look like small potatoes.

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                • The Duck
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                  #23
                  I am going to find cases and proof, give me some time and I will be back later to show you.
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                  • The Duck
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                    I didn't say anything was true. The states, courts, and people did. Your argument is with them, not me. They put the Amendment in place, the states voted it in, and the courts upheld every attack on it. I am not arguing about income taxes, I'm just saying that his arguments about it not being constitutional are wrong.

                    I also don't see why you are so upset with our income tax. Our taxes make Sweden's look like small potatoes.
                    Im not saying we are good at anything, Sweden is a puppet of the US.
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                    • 12clicks
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by kandah
                      Problem is that this was not passed by most states, they just kind of did it anyway.
                      I no longer mind this idiot bad mouthing me. it can only make me look good in the eyes of intelligent people.
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                      • pocketkangaroo
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by kandah
                        I am going to find cases and proof, give me some time and I will be back later to show you.
                        If you find something, send it to every lawyer and accountant in the US. If there was really something out there that said we didn't have to pay taxes, don't you think someone would have figured it out by now?

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                        • juz
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                          • May 2006
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                          #27
                          why are you wasting your time kangdah? It's law here but if by chance a person filed suit against the US government/IRS and won establishing that they have no right to tax our income, how long do you think it would take the congress to re ratify the 16th amendment? A day 2 at the most, it would be quickest ratification in US history.

                          I do find it ironic that a Euro is complaining about US tax laws though, you guys believe in tax more then you do freedom of speech, I also wonder if you would even be making an issue of this if there had been a democrat in the whitehouse for the psat 7 years.

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                          • The Duck
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                            #28
                            http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/theman.asp
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                            • pocketkangaroo
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by kandah
                              Woodrow Wilson, The man who signed the federal reserve act said this:

                              "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
                              The first two sentences in that are made up. There is no documentation of him ever saying it. Just people on conspiracy websites using it.

                              The rest is from his book "The New Freedom". He also altered parts of that paragraph as well.

                              If you don't believe me, pick up the book and see for yourself.

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                              • The Duck
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                If you find something, send it to every lawyer and accountant in the US. If there was really something out there that said we didn't have to pay taxes, don't you think someone would have figured it out by now?
                                People have figured it out and people have won cases but since the fourth branch of the government aka the media is ignoring this fact nobody knows and cares.

                                http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/theman.asp
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