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Total Lack of surprise would be my guess. The first thing we learned in Design School was "Everything had been done before"...Originally posted by iBankerComment
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I could personally give two shits if anyone copied our stuff...LOL
Coming from an Architect background, I was inspired by Wright and Gehry and plenty of my work reflects design concepts and influences by them. So did I copy them? You bet your ass I did. The biggest compliment you can give an architect is to "borrow" their basic fundamentals of design.
There is no shame if anyone is/was inspired by any of our designs. I take that as a compliment...LOL
Note: Although the colors are similiar and the header has the same flavor, I personally don't think it is a direct copy. Both look good and I'm sure they perform fine.We are what we repeatedly do.-AristotleComment
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Some key colors are pretty close but I would say they are ripping you off.Comment
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yeah I guess inspiration is not always good when we talk about layouts..Originally posted by iBankerThat is a good way of putting it "inspiration". I like that.
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Total lack of surprise = good answer.Originally posted by aicowww.JasonandAlex.com
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I think someone copied my site too. They used a black background color... The bastards!!!Comment
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we never copy nor would we ever copy such a site
When I found the link to this thread in my mail, I got pretty amazed that someone with such a "basic" site could say we copied (or got inspired) when designing Mom's a Slut site. I never post on the boards, but in this case I've decided to post my 2 cents here...
First of all, these two sites have far from each-other. In overall quality, in types used and in complexity too.
PublicNudityExposed site has far from quality that would be acceptable by webinc.com. If a designer which such skills would apply for a job here at webinc, I would never let him work with us - simply because we're always trying to bring top quality to our clients.
The public nudity design uses default Photoshop presets, which is yet another thing we DON'T ACCEPT. Designer who's dependent on the default gradients and bewels has a lot to learn... outside webinc.com.
Also, it seems the designer who was doing public nudity site was in a rush, since he forgot to place outlines on the 'Nudity' in logo while he used an outline on the 'Public' word (not even considering the poorly incorporated photos) - all this seems pretty incomplete to me...
On the other hand, we spent quite a lot of time with the logo, which suggests a question: would someone who played with every detail and spent a whole day designing the site's main style and layout would try to steal from someone who spent maximum 1 and 1/2 hour on a poorly designed logo and header?
We have very strict rules here in our company, one of the main is to never copy anything from anyone outside webinc.com. One of our main advantage is that with over 1,000 sites we have designed up to date, even our newcomer webinc designers have incredibly big field for inspiration from our internal sources rather than from some of these cheap immitations.
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Good post Peter - thanks for explaining everything.
I think Ibanker has his explanation now
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Originally posted by Webinc Peter
Get off your fucking high horse, who are you to come in here and bash around his site... Ya your site looks good, just like his does. Other than looking "nice" you site design is a cookie cutter to almost ever other site on the internet... Just from that attack I think you did copy it. 
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Originally posted by porn-dog Get off your fucking high horse, who are you to come in here and bash around his site... Ya your site looks good, just like his does. Other than looking "nice" you site design is a cookie cutter to almost ever other site on the internet... Just from that attack I think you did copy it.
And you are who??
Peter explained exactly how we design and the differences in these 2..
Please look for drama elsewhere
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I don't think so fuck wad. Your friend was blatantly calling their designer shit. How in the hell can he say that when they almost look the sameOriginally posted by sextoykingAnd you are who??
Peter explained exactly how we design and the differences in these 2..
Please look for drama elsewhere
Now get out of my face biznatch.
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Originally posted by porn-dogI don't think so fuck wad. Your friend was blatantly calling their designer shit. How in the hell can he say that when they almost look the same
Now get out of my face biznatch.
Boy,
You better learn a little respect when talking with a man.
My Rep. in this industry for the last 11 yrs online is great...
Peter is our project manager and runs the whole design team. He took the time to explain the differences in the logo, etc. I am no designer so I can't talk in those terms but I trust his word and Judgement 100000%
Go back to school Newbie
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you get a nickel a click on that exit popup???Originally posted by iBanker
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I never challenged your "11 year rep"Originally posted by sextoykingBoy,
You better learn a little respect when talking with a man.
My Rep. in this industry for the last 11 yrs online is great...
Peter is our project manager and runs the whole design team. He took the time to explain the differences in the logo, etc. I am no designer so I can't talk in those terms but I trust his word and Judgement 100000%
Go back to school Newbie I was simply stating that there was a much more tactful way to discuss the 2 websites, and if your a professional, you would know that!
He had no right to say those things, im sure their designer worked just as hard building their site.
Oh yea, I almost forgot, I will talk to you however I see fit... got it?
Been in the online porn biz since 94?
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Originally posted by porn-dogI never challenged your "11 year rep" I was simply stating that there was a much more tactful way to discuss the 2 websites, and if your a professional, you would know that!
He had no right to say those things, im sure their designer worked just as hard building their site.
Oh yea, I almost forgot, I will talk to you however I see fit... got it?
Been in the online porn biz since 94?
Well tough guy Peter explained it the way he wanted too. As he said in his post he doesn't ever post on boards but felt the need to this time.
Yeh, I have been running adult sites / stores, etc on the net since early 1994, started with usenet ads, then online, etc.
Before that - got out of the Army in the late 80's and then ran early 90's ran large adult bbs systems, adult cdrom distributor, etc.
With the Laugh / smile - I almost thought you didn't belive me
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Originally posted by sextoykingWell tough guy Peter explained it the way he wanted too. As he said in his post he doesn't ever post on boards but felt the need to this time.
Yeh, I have been running adult sites / stores, etc on the net since early 1994, started with usenet ads, then online, etc.
Before that - got out of the Army in the late 80's and then ran early 90's ran large adult bbs systems, adult cdrom distributor, etc.
With the Laugh / smile - I almost thought you didn't belive me
Actually your right, I don't believe you... - Maybe if you would have said 8 years I would have believed you....
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Damm you caught me, I should of said 8 years.. LOL
hmm if you weren't such a newbie you already would of done a whois on webinc.com of course that only shows 10 years.... dammm
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Originally posted by sextoykingDamm you caught me, I should of said 8 years.. LOL
hmm if you weren't such a newbie you already would of done a whois on webinc.com of course that only shows 10 years.... dammm
Your right, im a newbie, just started this whole adult thing...... I was trying to look cool in front of my peers.... im sorry.
LOL
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Originally posted by porn-dogYour right, im a newbie, just started this whole adult thing...... I was trying to look cool in front of my peers.... im sorry.
LOL
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Originally posted by sextoyking
Your a fucking fool, seriously...
I make no money off the sig, I put it up for a friends program... like to help people out... So you own webinc?SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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or is it the other way around?
records show that the MOMSASLUT.COM site was registered first.Comment
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Originally posted by porn-dog
Yeh I am a fool and your a tool
Yes, our companies own webinc.com,wishing.com and a ton of other online stores, etc.
As I said we have been in the online game since the beginning...... Lots of hard work, but it's been a good ride
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So, you own webinc? pretty easy question.Originally posted by sextoykingYeh I am a fool and your a tool
Yes, our companies own webinc.com,wishing.com and a ton of other online stores, etc.
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Originally posted by porn-dog
I must be tired or you can't read correctly. I said our companies own webinc.com and a ton of other sites, stores, domains, love dolls, etc
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you're copycat is good in immitating.Comment
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Well congratulations, you have proved nothing. I still believe you though.. so don't get upset. BTW I was just in the mood for some friendly banter, and you were the guy that walked into itOriginally posted by sextoykingI must be tired or you can't read correctly. I said our companies own webinc.com and a ton of other sites, stores, domains, love dolls, etc
Yes, we own it - but technically the companies own everything... so don't take it to heart... oh yea, incase you were wondering, I have been in this business since 1998..... anyways....
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Originally posted by porn-dogWell congratulations, you have proved nothing. I still believe you though.. so don't get upset. BTW I was just in the mood for some friendly banter, and you were the guy that walked into it so don't take it to heart... oh yea, incase you were wondering, I have been in this business since 1998..... anyways....
Don't worry I didn't take it too heart. I don't piss much - did somewhat in the old days on ynot and netpond but not alot of time for it now.
Good that you belived me LOL As most ppl and companies will tell you about me - I am pretty dang honest and straight up with everyone.... We do all of our business that way.... No games....
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Hi Ibanker,
I didn't see you post any sort of comments to Peter's post or an Apology, etc. I would of thought you would have by now.
At least Alex tried to show a bit of Grace
Thanks
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Did you expect him to say "thanks" or "I´m so sorry..." after this...Originally posted by sextoykingHi Ibanker,
I didn't see you post any sort of comments to Peter's post or an Apology, etc. I would of thought you would have by now.
At least Alex tried to show a bit of Grace
Thanks
Todd
"we never copy nor would we ever copy such a site
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When I found the link to this thread in my mail, I got pretty amazed that someone with such a "basic" site could say we copied (or got inspired) when designing Mom's a Slut site. I never post on the boards, but in this case I've decided to post my 2 cents here...
First of all, these two sites have far from each-other. In overall quality, in types used and in complexity too.
PublicNudityExposed site has far from quality that would be acceptable by webinc.com. If a designer which such skills would apply for a job here at webinc, I would never let him work with us - simply because we're always trying to bring top quality to our clients.
The public nudity design uses default Photoshop presets, which is yet another thing we DON'T ACCEPT. Designer who's dependent on the default gradients and bewels has a lot to learn... outside webinc.com.
Also, it seems the designer who was doing public nudity site was in a rush, since he forgot to place outlines on the 'Nudity' in logo while he used an outline on the 'Public' word (not even considering the poorly incorporated photos) - all this seems pretty incomplete to me...
On the other hand, we spent quite a lot of time with the logo, which suggests a question: would someone who played with every detail and spent a whole day designing the site's main style and layout would try to steal from someone who spent maximum 1 and 1/2 hour on a poorly designed logo and header?
We have very strict rules here in our company, one of the main is to never copy anything from anyone outside webinc.com. One of our main advantage is that with over 1,000 sites we have designed up to date, even our newcomer webinc designers have incredibly big field for inspiration from our internal sources rather than from some of these cheap immitations."
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Micke,
I don't belive I was directing that post to you was I ?
Ibanker is a man and a big boy, I think he can respond if he chooses too..
Thanks for adding your drama
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Uh, nope.Originally posted by iBankerComment
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Well, I was backing off the whole thing, but fuck that.Originally posted by Webinc Peter
Amp designed that site. I will put it up against anything you have. You arrogant piece of shit. Get off your fucking high horse and suck my dick.
Warm Regards,
Chriswww.JasonandAlex.com
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iBanker .............. nice sort of promo aka fake drama, now .......... get lost kComment
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Originally posted by porn-dog Get off your fucking high horse, who are you to come in here and bash around his site... Ya your site looks good, just like his does. Other than looking "nice" you site design is a cookie cutter to almost ever other site on the internet... Just from that attack I think you did copy it.
Agreed, and to think I wasn't even making a big deal of it.www.JasonandAlex.com
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And "peter" can go fuck himself. Do you really want to take this to the next level?Originally posted by sextoykingBoy,
You better learn a little respect when talking with a man.
My Rep. in this industry for the last 11 yrs online is great...
Peter is our project manager and runs the whole design team. He took the time to explain the differences in the logo, etc. I am no designer so I can't talk in those terms but I trust his word and Judgement 100000%
Go back to school Newbie
You come back with a bullshit explaination that just attacks my designer after 50 people in this thread say the can see similairities? So you bash your own site you designed at the same time? Fuck-tard.
Who gives a shit about an outline on a logo.....christ you are a moron.www.JasonandAlex.com
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An APOLOGY????Originally posted by sextoykingHi Ibanker,
I didn't see you post any sort of comments to Peter's post or an Apology, etc. I would of thought you would have by now.
At least Alex tried to show a bit of Grace
Thanks
Todd
Are you on crack?
Where the fuck do you get off?
I'm done with "grace" for today. Everyone that knows me when I post here knows that I don't bullshit, and furthermore, would apologize if warranted. Dickhead.www.JasonandAlex.com
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Originally posted by iBanker
hahaha, so your drama "thread" back fired on your ass hugh?
Peter said it as he saw it.. You can accept or choose not too.
Don't ever come around trying to impude our rep or such things, even in a "innocent" questioning way Chris.
Of course if you had of been a real professional you would of emailed, called or icq'd me at first..
of course you chose the low road.
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Do you really want to take this to the next level?
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LOL. Nice high horse you got there. Still going to sing that same song? Don't underestimate the intelligence of some of the people on here. Quit building yourself up, nobody is buying it. (well, maybe a few noobs).Originally posted by sextoykingwww.JasonandAlex.com
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And you want to talk about MY professionalism???
Nice post by one of your employees.... very nice.
I like the part where you admit some fault.... oh.... wait... you didn't. Typical. Keep lying to yourself and eventually you will believe it I guess.www.JasonandAlex.com
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Buliding myself up??
No need to Chris....... If you know me or ask around - I don't show off, I don't do drama much ever, mabey in the old ynot or netpond days, etc.
When someone comes in even slighty and suggests copy, etc you bet I will be there in a heartbeat buddy.ICQ: 52344098
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Look all I think it's safe to say that all designs are inspired by other sites that we have come across. 99% of the sites out there a spoofs of others. I would have to say this weginc design was inspired by jasonandalex.com's PNE. It's part of the biz for sure. It can't be avoided. No biggie! We've all had some sort of foundation or idea to work from. Chris just happened to make a point and that was it was "inspired". It's more complimenting than anything.Comment
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ok both of you take pride in your work and the original drama was backed off as though it was just friendly public talk and now stk is standing on ceremony?
this thread has gone on long enough and you both live to fight another day?
is this correct? time to move on?
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Originally posted by Jason K
Jason,
I hear you on some points but I will have to disagree with you on the Inspire part.
Our designers never saw that site before it was made. Probably never untiil this thread...
Thanks
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Originally posted by sextoyking
Still no comment on how you guys bash out site design (which Amp did for us), but everyone sees the similairities?www.JasonandAlex.com
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Dammit. Why do you have to bring sensibility into GFY. J/K.Originally posted by XPays
I'm done for the day anyhow. Got box seats to the Charger game tonight. I'll get back on tonight if I'm not to haggared to see if STK is back on his high horse still....www.JasonandAlex.com
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"OUR REP..." ... i would say that your rep. has been, shall we say "polished"??Originally posted by sextoyking
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