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No, the idea is that it is seamless because both servers are still online; Oxeo took the server offline 4 days before it was requested to be taken offline. Get it?Originally posted by thewebgarage
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yes you do. But if they keep the A records and you USED to host there, then thats the perfect way to fuck a client over. And they did.Originally posted by a1ka1ine
And cancelling the admin is even worse yes.
But Mike doesnt care. We paid upfront. And on the spot. He has his money.
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huh ? what kind of BS is that ?Originally posted by thinkx
1. you ask the new host to set up your domain
2. you login into your registrar and change the DNS for a new host.Comment
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He's not saying you don't provide top-notch service to clients; just not when they're leaving.. which they were still a client prior to and should be given the same respect and support they have been given all along - at least that's what I would consider good business.Originally posted by PlayaPlaya
I don't think he threatened you either for money, I think he was mentioning there are monetary damages on his part due to your actions / your company's actions of taking his server down prior to the stated date.
I might not know all details, so whatever I say is based off of whatever I have read in this thread.
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..the whole thread is about that the sever has NOT been taken offline to early.. but to late. Get it?Originally posted by NysusNasdaqNM: GOOGComment
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well no shit, you first move the site, then change the DNS, then when everything works you cancel the old hosting.Originally posted by Nysus
(it takes 2 days max for the new DNS to kick in across the world)Comment
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thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up.Originally posted by DarkJedi
But hey, taking the admin away from the box was also my favorite move.
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Actually, you're wrong with this one DarkJedi.. The host does have settings they need to change / remove.Originally posted by DarkJedi
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well the server was gone. the dns records were still there yes.Originally posted by Punk`d
And - above all - mike removed the server admin access 4 days before he took the server down. Thats just fucked up.
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If DJ has to ask what an A record is, then Im sure he doesnt understand the problem.Originally posted by Nysus
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explain.Originally posted by NysusComment
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I have 3 domains that dns took a whole week to update and sites to become visible again. Not sure how that happenedComment
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Exactly! You just proved my point... the problem is, the host cancelled the account 4 days prior to the requested date / the date of cancellation, meaning it is/was technically their fault.Originally posted by DarkJedi
Simple apology can usually help, but most companies don't want to give in that they made a mistake.
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Originally posted by thinkx
he should have switched the DNS first, then canceled old host.Comment
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True.Originally posted by Nysus
When we cancel an account of a client before it was meant to be. And he paid in full, we compensate. Money or whatever.
Oxeo doesnt give shit.
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Exactly what thinkx said - "thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up."Originally posted by DarkJedi
Things will get "fucked up" if A records aren't changed.
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DJ doesnt understand. I dont know how else to explain this. I didnt know till some 4 yrs ago it happened for the first time. Old host kept DNS records and we received mail of ppl complaining the site wasnt there forever.Originally posted by Nysus
Its simple as 123. If you set A records in more then 1 server the nameservers will get confused. Its the ultimate way besides DOS to fuck a site over.
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Originally posted by Nysus
what the hell do "A records" have to do with a new host ?
You take you new hosts DNS, go to you registrar and point your domains to these new DNS.Comment
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Dude, you don't think it was better for him to let the host know prior to him cancelling? As opposed to the day of?Originally posted by DarkJedi
Plus, you'd need to cancel before the next billing date, but they cancelled 4 days before they should have... 4 days is plenty of time to switch DNS over, but they didn't allow that because they messed up.
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i sale cheap A recordsComment
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Read up on technical aspects of hosting.. I really don't have time to explain, and also likely not the best person to explain, otherwise I would, sorry.Originally posted by DarkJedi
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
Hello Dark Jedi you faggotComment
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Some countries and some ISPs are slow. Thank god someone from Germany told me this morning the dutchteengalleries gave a Apache entry page. Germany is always fast in updating. But checking the stats tells me that were at least 2 mln hits behind today and yday some 1 mln. Thats lost.Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
We all make mistakes. If you gotta cough up then you gotta cough up.
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I know the technical aspects of moving from one host to another. I've done it many times and never had any downtime (because it was done correctly)Originally posted by Nysus
sounds like thinkx doesn't know wtf he is doing.
he should get a 9-5 job at walmart.Comment
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dig this: dude is blaming old host because he couldn't move to a new one.
how fucked is that ?
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Nice uh. Thank you Mike at Oxeo. Hope your sushi tastes nice. Cause we paid for it.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOriginally posted by DarkJedi
Ok you just made my day. You know the tech aspects and YET had to ASK what A records are? Damn youre SOOOOOOOO OWNED.
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Originally posted by Juicy D. Links bot malfunctioning
No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers
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yeah, you're a real winner !Originally posted by thinkx
you know what 'A records' are, but couldn't move your shit to a new host.
yet i don't concern myself with trivial bullshit and have never had a problem moving sites.
YUO = MORAN.Comment
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judging from that pic, yes you areOriginally posted by thinkx
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Indeed. Thanks to Oxeo fucking up. And pls come back when youve understood DNS settings.Originally posted by DarkJedi
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thinkx, why did you post this, and then do so much trouble to keep replying (seriously)?
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if you can't move from one host to another, you're an idiot.Originally posted by thinkx
oxeo doesn't have anything to do with it.Comment
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I guess you checked. Well. Hivelocity. Yes the guys I said wtf all cogent.Originally posted by xlogger
Know why? Cause we were bound to go for Hostive. Till I talked to a guy whos pretty close to us. He ordered one there. Took 17 days to get the server up. That did it.
So I looked. And I must admit, Hivelocity is cool. Kevin is our rep there and hes not bad at all. So far no funky stuff cause its cogent and its doing 15mbit now for 2 days and just fine. Ill keep you updated. In other words: sorry for the whole cogent and hi is shit thing.
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Cool. Post a domain and ill show you why Im pissed. Give it 24 hrs and youll see half the world emailing your sites down. Then youll understand Oxeo had EVERYthing to do with it.Originally posted by DarkJedi
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Asks a host who uses 2-pls let me rip you off-checkout? STFU n00bOriginally posted by keyDet79
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I know nothing about A records, but seriously if the way you explained it is right.
Registrar points DNS to a server, DNS gives IP to site, IP directs to site.
how exactly would the WWW even KNOW some other server has "A records" for your domain name if the DNS all around the world updated according to the setting at your registrar?
You're telling me I could set a DNS with some A Records for duchteengalleries.com so that it shows ******* and half your traffic would see *******? it would be way too easy to put competitors out of business or steal traffic.Comment
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Sorry, I don't understand what you're talking about. Looks like English, it but doesn't make sense.Originally posted by thinkx
You're saying you can somehow screw up anyones domain in 24 hours ?
here, try this one www.yahoo.comLast edited by DarkJedi; 08-30-2005, 11:03 AM.Comment
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smartass. that ONLY works if the domain was already at the old host. Otherwise anyone could hijack a site.Originally posted by DarkJedi
Oxeo knew this. And yet they made a mistake. But they dont care.
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Nysus, you don't have the time to explain what thinkx's problem is? Ok no problem, I'm not such a busy man so I'll do it and lets count how long it takes me.
If you do not remove the DNS entries of the domain at the *dedicated DNS server* of a host, all servers at that host will resolve the domain to the IP *at that host / on their network*. Why? Because the DNS servers are local.
20 Seconds.
Yes, I guess oxeo uses one dedicated server to handle DNS of all their customers/servers. Their provider ISPrime does the same (our customers have had problems with them before), and a lot of hosts offer this service, instead of setting up your server to do its own DNS. In practice it would be impossible for thinkx to lose "50% of the traffic". No host hosts 50% of the adult industry. Prove me wrong please. Oh I forgot you can't.
I know thinkx is your friend, but it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
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We lost over 50% of our gallery traffic today because of this cockup. How do you think affiliates appreciate it when they hotlink FHG on their free sites and get a range of 404s in their scripts tomorrow. Mail is gonna be fun tomorrow.Originally posted by keyDet79
As of now dutchteengalleries.com here still resolves to nothing. And itll take at least 24 hrs to get that solved.
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... not what page one saysOriginally posted by thinkx
..if the server was still online (read above).. and they just kept the dns records until you requested the removal (as well read above) .. please explain me how that can cause ANY problems with a site move.. i would love to hear that.Originally posted by PlayaPlaya
..or aren't these the logical steps to avoid almost ANY downtime since some traffic will go to your old server (which they did not shutdown) and new requests will go to the new box..?NasdaqNM: GOOGComment
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Impossible, because no host hosts 50% of your affiliates. I'd like to bet on that.Originally posted by thinkx
Yes, they may have understood your cancellation request as 'Terminate my account please, I've moved'. But then again, they kept your DNS so you would not have downtime.
With us, even if you tell me to cancel your account "right now", I will still mail you back and ask for a confirmation, or it will be done at your business cycle.
Anway all you're doing now is bringing in more business for oxeo. And it's definately not in my benefit to defent them. It's just that you sound like an idiot.
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thinkx doesn't have clue.Comment
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You just gotta love ppl who cant read.Originally posted by Punk`d... not what page one says
..if the server was still online (read above).. and they just kept the dns records until you requested the removal (as well read above) .. please explain me how that can cause ANY problems with a site move.. i would love to hear that.
..or aren't these the logical steps to avoid almost ANY downtime since some traffic will go to your old server (which they did not shutdown) and new requests will go to the new box..?
THEY KEPT THE A RECORDS SETTINGS IN THEIR NAMESERVERS AFTER THEY TOOK THE SERVER DOWN.
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