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  • nikad
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2004
    • 2579

    #1

    WTF Paid Listings????????

    So a good friend bought a submit pass for a well known TGP. He submits and submits and doesn't get listed, and gets no explanation on why, finally after many unanswered emails, he emails once again to a diff address, and they say they won't list his galleries because of the registrar he used for his domain names??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!???????????
    I have heard crazy shit, but this? Any ideas?
    nik
    Last edited by nikad; 08-29-2005, 04:00 PM.

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  • Harmon
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    • Mar 2004
    • 20012

    #2
    Who is the registrar? What is the TGP? Post info, this is important to many here
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    • NoCarrier
      We need more free porn
      • Mar 2002
      • 16356

      #3
      Amazing how those stories always involve another person.

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      • nikad
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 2579

        #4
        Originally posted by NoCarrier
        Amazing how those stories always involve another person.
        Wot you mean?

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        • fris
          I have to go potty
          • Aug 2002
          • 55785

          #5
          some check if its domainsbyproxy, like thehun does.
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          • DraX
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            • Oct 2002
            • 7147

            #6
            tell us more.....
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            • BastarD
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2004
              • 6341

              #7
              once a hosting company (LayeredTech) wanted to bill me for 1200$ for their 'administrators work' while they couldn't install one Cisco PIX (hardware firewall) for me for 8 DAYS and couldn't make my servers working behind firewall.. so I told them to fuck off with their 'services' and firewall and they created 1200$ invoice for their undone work.............


              anyway I paid them NOTHING, it's even better, they paid me 5k bucks for my damages costs (4 days of unexpected downtime bcoz of their fault) but this happened after many months of investigating... hate fuckin companies like this.....


              your situation is weird as well

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              • nikad
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2004
                • 2579

                #8
                Originally posted by DraX
                tell us more.....
                My friend is a hard working honest webmaster, since his english is not good, he asked me to translate the mail he got, and I couldn't fuckin believe it. I don't really want to give out the name of the tgp, cos I don't know if this is common practice... it is not a US tgp and it went paid last month though

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                • nikad
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2579

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fris
                  some check if its domainsbyproxy, like thehun does.
                  i have checked their domains and they are all registered with their real info

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                  • Sosa
                    In Tushy Land
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 40149

                    #10
                    ya that is fucked up. the site should have mentioned they wouldn't take submits from certain registrar or hosts.

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                    • throwdown
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 997

                      #11
                      interesting

                      seems like the tgp is just trying to fuck your friends out of some money

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                      • Ray@TastyDollars
                        • May 2002
                        • 6797

                        #12
                        We have two sites like that. They will not list anyone from a certain registrars, unfortunatly the only way to know is to submit. For this reason we have always refunded our clients. If your "friend" bought from us we will refund him. Email me at rayATnichespots.com

                        thx,
                        Ray

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                        • nikad
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ray
                          We have two sites like that. They will not list anyone from a certain registrars, unfortunatly the only way to know is to submit. For this reason we have always refunded our clients. If your "friend" bought from us we will refund him. Email me at rayATnichespots.com

                          thx,
                          Ray
                          Ray, I think he bought it from you, actually I think he bought two. I will tell him to contact you. Maybe it would be nice if you put something about it on these 2 sites. Also, I don't quite get the reasons for this
                          nik

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                          • BVF
                            Black Vagina Finder
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 13975

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ray
                            We have two sites like that. They will not list anyone from a certain registrars, unfortunatly the only way to know is to submit. For this reason we have always refunded our clients. If your "friend" bought from us we will refund him. Email me at rayATnichespots.com

                            thx,
                            Ray
                            Normally I would say that this is fucking ridiculous but after seeing how people actually buy submit passes just to turn around and redirect the galleries, I can understand...

                            People go through all kinds of bullshit just to cheat.

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                            • nikad
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                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2579

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nikad
                              Ray, I think he bought it from you, actually I think he bought two. I will tell him to contact you. Maybe it would be nice if you put something about it on these 2 sites. Also, I don't quite get the reasons for this
                              nik
                              My mistake, he bought it directly from them.

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                              • nikad
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 2579

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BVF
                                Normally I would say that this is fucking ridiculous but after seeing how people actually buy submit passes just to turn around and redirect the galleries, I can understand...

                                People go through all kinds of bullshit just to cheat.
                                I guess I am too naive then, but anybody could do it with their domains and with any registar, why are certain registars blocked? Also shouldn't they at least put it in their terms? drop the guys some email?

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                                • Ray@TastyDollars
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 6797

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nikad
                                  My mistake, he bought it directly from them.
                                  Ah cool. If you need help contacting them, let me know.

                                  Ray

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                                  • facialfreak
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 3018

                                    #18
                                    I'm betting it's Richards' Realm ...

                                    This sounds all just a little too familiar

                                    Submit passes (generally speaking, and not neccesarily the company by the same name...), are highly over-rated IMHO
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                                    • Ray@TastyDollars
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 6797

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BVF
                                      Normally I would say that this is fucking ridiculous but after seeing how people actually buy submit passes just to turn around and redirect the galleries, I can understand...

                                      People go through all kinds of bullshit just to cheat.
                                      Its getting out of hand. That is the biggest reason why we offer 3m packages and we are even concidering killing MVC monthly recurring. Yes, cheaters will think twice before buying 3 months. So far 100% of our cheaters have bougth 1 month passes.

                                      Ray

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                                      • Dirty Dane
                                        Sick Fuck
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 9491

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ray
                                        Its getting out of hand. That is the biggest reason why we offer 3m packages and we are even concidering killing MVC monthly recurring. Yes, cheaters will think twice before buying 3 months. So far 100% of our cheaters have bougth 1 month passes.

                                        Ray
                                        Yes, thats the way to do it.
                                        However sad, that they screw up for others. First free open submissions, then free partner accounts, and now paid accounts.

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                                        • tony299
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          the only person that benefits from a paid submit pass is the person who sold it lol

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                                          • demented
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 2388

                                            #22
                                            It's strange but it doesn't surprise me.. I've heard some fucked up excuses plenty of times.

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                                            • jollyperv
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 3927

                                              #23
                                              Paying for partner accounts is retarded.

                                              Those who say the model is shifting, think again, it will correct itself. Pay partner accounts are the worst thing to happen to this industry since the introduction of the FHG.
                                              Last edited by jollyperv; 08-29-2005, 06:50 PM.

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                                              • Big Fish 47
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 1035

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                the only person that benefits from a paid submit pass is the person who sold it lol
                                                I approve a lot of good reviews from people that make money.

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                                                • Azlord
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 2651

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ray
                                                  Its getting out of hand. That is the biggest reason why we offer 3m packages and we are even concidering killing MVC monthly recurring. Yes, cheaters will think twice before buying 3 months. So far 100% of our cheaters have bougth 1 month passes.

                                                  Ray
                                                  Ray I just wanted to say I am very happy with my passes. ElephantList and PinkWorld are both submitting me a lot. And you guys have been great to work with.

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                                                  • the Shemp
                                                    congrats to the winners
                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                    • 10891

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by nikad
                                                    So a good friend bought a submit pass for a well known TGP. He submits and submits and doesn't get listed, and gets no explanation on why, finally after many unanswered emails, he emails once again to a diff address, and they say they won't list his galleries because of the registrar he used for his domain names??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!???????????
                                                    I have heard crazy shit, but this? Any ideas?
                                                    nik

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                                                    i'm guessing, am i close?
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                                                    • Iron Mike
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                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 460

                                                      #27
                                                      bump5978

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                                                      • Oracle Porn
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 24433

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                        the only person that benefits from a paid submit pass is the person who sold it lol
                                                        actually i benefit from them and im the one buying.


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                                                        • nikad
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 2579

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                          Registration Service Provided By: ESTHOST

                                                          i'm guessing, am i close?
                                                          sir, his doamins are highwaytgp.com , galleriestriplex.com I don't know, but the registrars look ... normal to me :P
                                                          nik

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                                                          • the Shemp
                                                            congrats to the winners
                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                            • 10891

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nikad
                                                            sir, his doamins are highwaytgp.com , galleriestriplex.com I don't know, but the registrars look ... normal to me :P
                                                            nik
                                                            ya, i didnt notice anything unusual...
                                                            i use Vacares...so should you
                                                            Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                            • nikad
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 2579

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                              ya, i didnt notice anything unusual...
                                                              Well, these people have always been very pro an nice, I remember when I started submitting galleries, and for some reason I had some kind of error on my gallys, they would even told me wot was wrong, and then they would list them, I think that if you are going to charge for listing galleries, you have to give some kind of service to your submitters and take care of them - basic crm. My friend had to chase them til they finally said this, which doesn't make sense to me. I guess it is not just about the money reimbursement, but about being treated as a scammer when you are not. Hopefully they will explain further wot is going on. I will post updates here, the tgp name has been mentioned in the thread.
                                                              nik

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                                                              • DarkJedi
                                                                No Refunds Issued.
                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 28301

                                                                #32
                                                                what registrar ?

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                                                                • justsexxx
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 13723

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ray
                                                                  Its getting out of hand. That is the biggest reason why we offer 3m packages and we are even concidering killing MVC monthly recurring. Yes, cheaters will think twice before buying 3 months. So far 100% of our cheaters have bougth 1 month passes.

                                                                  Ray

                                                                  When you do, let me know, and I have to cancel all my accounts. I'm not gonna pay 3 months in advance for some passes that do not work(they do work, but I mean money wise) The 1 month gives me the possibility to check some new accounts, change old passes etc.

                                                                  Of course you can kill the 1 months recurring to detect some cheaters, but also keep in mind, the majority doesn't like that. Maybe keep offering 1 month passes for webmasters you KNOW?
                                                                  Questions?

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                                                                  • A.Skywalker
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 19

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hi there:

                                                                    I am the mysterious nikad's friend. I had not written before, basically because I was busy trying to solve and to "understand" all this thing. In addition my English is not very good, and it's much hard to me to express everything what I mean.

                                                                    ...and yes all of this is about RR...

                                                                    Never before there was I heard nothing like this.
                                                                    I'm not a cheater, I don't change my galleries ever, all of them are permanent and hosted in a paid server, don´t use pop ups, consoles, java or some shit like that, all my domains are on my own, registered with my real info, name, address, etc...

                                                                    Really... I cannot understand, in what way can affect to RR, or to any other, what registrar I did used to register my domains. And in any case this does not have solution by now, my domains expire in 2006.
                                                                    Now I am waiting for an answer from RR, for that reason I am not going to say nothing else, by now.

                                                                    Just one more thing, so that you they can see if, in your opinion, there is something wrong with my galleries, domains, host, etc.

                                                                    My domains:

                                                                    galleriestriplex.com
                                                                    onewaytgp.com
                                                                    nubiles4all.com

                                                                    My partner's domains:

                                                                    highwaytgp.com
                                                                    tgpmundial.com

                                                                    All of them was registered under the same registrar.

                                                                    Galleries samples (submited to RR, and waiting...):

                                                                    TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/ftvg.../richards.html
                                                                    TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/feli.../richards.html
                                                                    TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/ftvg.../richards.html
                                                                    TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/tawn.../richards.html
                                                                    TGP http://www.galleriestriplex.com/kirs.../richards.html
                                                                    MGP http://www.nubiles4all.com/movies/ma.../richards.html
                                                                    MGP http://www.nubiles4all.com/movies/sh.../richards.html

                                                                    I would like too much to know the opinion of all of you guys. Cya.

                                                                    Skywalker
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                                                                    • Fuckin Bill
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 1020

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I don't see anything wrong with the galleries, the registry info or anything.

                                                                      Shemp, if you're still reading along, what's the deal with the "Registration Service Provided By: ESTHOST" ? Just curious as to what the problem is with them.

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                                                                      • sandman!
                                                                        Icq: 14420613
                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 15427

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by nikad
                                                                        So a good friend bought a submit pass for a well known TGP. He submits and submits and doesn't get listed, and gets no explanation on why, finally after many unanswered emails, he emails once again to a diff address, and they say they won't list his galleries because of the registrar he used for his domain names??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!???????????
                                                                        I have heard crazy shit, but this? Any ideas?
                                                                        nik

                                                                        its called a refund or a chargeback anyone selling submit passes that has a problem with where a domain is registered needes to provide a refund or just chargeback on thier asses.
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                                                                        • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 6797

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                          When you do, let me know, and I have to cancel all my accounts. I'm not gonna pay 3 months in advance for some passes that do not work(they do work, but I mean money wise) The 1 month gives me the possibility to check some new accounts, change old passes etc.

                                                                          Of course you can kill the 1 months recurring to detect some cheaters, but also keep in mind, the majority doesn't like that. Maybe keep offering 1 month passes for webmasters you KNOW?

                                                                          One month to test? One month is not nearly enough time to test anything. Lets say you buy a pass for September 1st, you submit your first gallery and it takes 3-4 days to be reviewd and another 1-2 to be listed. That leaves you with 3 weeks to "test"..not enough time.

                                                                          As we stand right now, we are 3 owners making the decision. I for one am all for 3 month min....oh and only about 30% of sales are monthly. Im willing to bet my left nut that when we do this switch we will only lose about 5% of sales, for a month or 2 and then they will come to their senses abd sign up again.

                                                                          Ray

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                                                                          • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                            • 6797

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Oh and another thing. We are thinking about adding a new rule to all MVC sales. If the Card Holder name does not match the whoIS info, the sale will not be allowed.

                                                                            thx,
                                                                            Ray

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                                                                            • Lee
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 2977

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Shemp, its a Directi registrar who Est are also a reseller for I believe. Nikad, they are riddled with cheats and unfortunately your friend got caught up in the mire.

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                                                                              • nikad
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 2579

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Lee
                                                                                Shemp, its a Directi registrar who Est are also a reseller for I believe. Nikad, they are riddled with cheats and unfortunately your friend got caught up in the mire.
                                                                                Do you think a cheater will contact RR becausae he is not getting listed? Also who is this Directi? Please explain what is the deal with the registrars, I guess if you wanna cheat you can do it with any...

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                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 13754

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Ray
                                                                                  Oh and another thing. We are thinking about adding a new rule to all MVC sales. If the Card Holder name does not match the whoIS info, the sale will not be allowed.

                                                                                  thx,
                                                                                  Ray

                                                                                  That's a bad idea. Do you think people use their real names in this business? Really, now.

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                                                                                  • A.Skywalker
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                    • 19

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Do you think a cheater will contact RR becausae he is not getting listed? Also who is this Directi? Please explain what is the deal with the registrars, I guess if you wanna cheat you can do it with any...
                                                                                    yep... I think the same way... but nobody explain...
                                                                                    Last edited by A.Skywalker; 08-30-2005, 02:28 PM.

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                                                                                    • justsexxx
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 13723

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Ray
                                                                                      One month to test? One month is not nearly enough time to test anything. Lets say you buy a pass for September 1st, you submit your first gallery and it takes 3-4 days to be reviewd and another 1-2 to be listed. That leaves you with 3 weeks to "test"..not enough time.

                                                                                      As we stand right now, we are 3 owners making the decision. I for one am all for 3 month min....oh and only about 30% of sales are monthly. Im willing to bet my left nut that when we do this switch we will only lose about 5% of sales, for a month or 2 and then they will come to their senses abd sign up again.

                                                                                      Ray
                                                                                      Okay, so ppl who are taking 1 months, should use their sense, when then don't like to switch to 3 months. Okay, it's obvious how you think about the people that make you money.
                                                                                      Questions?

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                                                                                      • dynastoned
                                                                                        mmm yeah!
                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                        • 5061

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                        That's a bad idea. Do you think people use their real names in this business? Really, now.
                                                                                        yes indeed donny has a point there..

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                                                                                        • wedouglas
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 5921

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Off topic, but do you, people at submitpasses, allow TGP owners to sell as many passes as they want or do you limit them to a reasonable number according to how many galleries they list daily?

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                                                                                          • TommysBookmarks
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                            • 9

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I wouldnt be so quick to condem RR

                                                                                            in fact I feel sorry for them a bit

                                                                                            I remember a lot of times desperatly trying to get rid of the cheaters and grabing on to any little peice of info that they had in common

                                                                                            of course when killing submits that had that info in common maybe 50 or so other innocent submitters would get killed off as well

                                                                                            its a bad situation for everybody
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                                                                                            • wdsguy
                                                                                              Ryde or Die
                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 19568

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by TommysBookmarks
                                                                                              I wouldnt be so quick to condem RR

                                                                                              in fact I feel sorry for them a bit

                                                                                              I remember a lot of times desperatly trying to get rid of the cheaters and grabing on to any little peice of info that they had in common

                                                                                              of course when killing submits that had that info in common maybe 50 or so other innocent submitters would get killed off as well

                                                                                              its a bad situation for everybody

                                                                                              Tommys postcount and traffic rocks

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                                                                                              • Theo
                                                                                                HAL 9000
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 34515

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                wow,TB posting here,i think i saw a ghost

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                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 34515

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  his traffic yes, his post count sucks big time

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                                                                                                  • GonZo
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 3180

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                    his traffic yes, his post count sucks big time
                                                                                                    Thats cuz post count matters right?
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