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I love PerfectGonzo and have never received spam from them...BUT, if you have webmasters telling you that they never opted into the list then one of your affiliates is spamming and it is not compliant and they shouldn't have to opt out of something they never opted in to.
You shouldn't be defending this affiliate, you should be terminating him for spam.
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Ok here are a few headers of his from back in may.. (btw there aren't for perfectgonzo but it's the same guy and the same style as the one's I was complaining about)
From "Acquiesce V. Illustrator" <[email protected]>
To Crockett <[email protected]>
Date Thu, 05 May 2005 01:44:17 -0400
Subject SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT: Guy Licks Girls Nipples And Clit! CamShowSluts
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From "Blackboard I. Cornrowing" <[email protected]>
To Crockett <[email protected]>
Date Tue, 03 May 2005 20:17:58 -0400
Subject SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT: Guy Fucks Blonde Girls Brains Out! BlowQueen
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Here are a few of his headers from back in May that I missed and didn't get in my delete bin. Every single mail he sends is using a different from name. He changes domains
according to the FTC and Can Spam..
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.htm
It bans false or misleading header information. Your email's "From," "To," and routing information ? including the originating domain name and email address ? must be accurate and identify the person who initiated the email.
Also in the messages themselves.. Where is his physical postal address? According to Can Spam.
It requires that commercial email be identified as an advertisement and include the sender's valid physical postal address. Your message must contain clear and conspicuous notice that the message is an advertisement or solicitation and that the recipient can opt out of receiving more commercial email from you. It also must include your valid physical postal address.
He is posting the program address and not his. It clearly says sender's. valid physical postal address not the affiliate programs address.Last edited by crockett; 08-29-2005, 06:59 AM.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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If you wish to mail hit me up on ICQ first please lolOriginally posted by Keyser SozeComment
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Dave can I get a pass to PG sites if possible?
juicy @ nymalegigolos.com
Thanks yo.Comment
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Sure. Do you have a webmaster account with us? If so, post your ID. I have a 1-click function in our admin to add your webmaster user/pass to all our members areas.Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
Anybody else let me know
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Yes i do let me get it brbOriginally posted by David - PGSure. Do you have a webmaster account with us? If so, post your ID. I have a 1-click function in our admin to add your webmaster user/pass to all our members areas.
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No I just want you to admit the truth its spam trying to look like it follows the can spam rules but it doesn't it looks like it but the emails are not opt in. They are collected from lists where people didn't opt in to recieve spam for your program.Originally posted by David - PGTruth TellerComment
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Your Perfectgonzo Account » 154248Comment
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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
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Keyser I made a joke. And why would you think I care what "everyone" thinks? Is "you" = "everyone"?Originally posted by Keyser Soze
Again. What is your agenda. Do you want an apology for emails you got 8 months ago? Let me know.Comment
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Add WebmastersOriginally posted by Juicy D. Links
Add Webmaster
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Use your webmaster user/pass to login.Comment
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Originally posted by David - PG
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OK DavidOriginally posted by David - PG
Tell this guy where he opted in to recieve these mails and I'll more than make it up to you it should only take 5 minutes to find out the information.Truth TellerComment
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What happened to Dean Capture?
I probably was drinking and totally missed it...
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CHECK.It bans false or misleading header information. Your email's "From," "To," and routing information ? including the originating domain name and email address ? must be accurate and identify the person who initiated the email.
CHECK.It requires that commercial email be identified as an advertisement and include the sender's valid physical postal address. Your message must contain clear and conspicuous notice that the message is an advertisement or solicitation and that the recipient can opt out of receiving more commercial email from you. It also must include your valid physical postal address.Comment
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Pissed of some spammers and someone spammed promoting his websiteOriginally posted by Trent EdisonTruth TellerComment
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And why Keyzer would you (!) waste your time asking me to find out where an unrelated third party opted into something. Why?Originally posted by Keyser SozeComment
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Dave btw , can i chop up vids and use em in 30 sec clips for promo
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Ahh.. Now I recall this one. LOLOriginally posted by Keyser Soze
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Because I claim you spam you say you don't this will solve it.Originally posted by David - PGTruth TellerComment
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Thank you, yes this solves it. I don't spam.Originally posted by Keyser SozeComment
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We've already wasted enough time in this thread.
Step up show where your spammer got his email from and it will save us a lot of time both now and in the future.Truth TellerComment
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I should have been clear no YOU don't spam but you accept webmasters spamming your program.Originally posted by David - PG
Like I said step up and get the info on where your spammer got his mail from. You don't allow illegal spam so it shouldn't be a problem.Truth TellerComment
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See Keyser, this is my job & I am passionate about my job. I don't waste time here, never have.Originally posted by Keyser Soze
You however should evaluate if you spend your time in an efficient manner
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right.... so I guess he has Acquiesce V. Illustrator and Blackboard I. Cornrowing on his payroll.. among all the other names that is different of each and everyone of his e-mails.Originally posted by David - PG
So being the physical address is your company which is listed as the sender, I suppose you are spamming me with these mails? Is that what you are saying?Originally posted by David - PG
If so can you please show me where I opted in for these mailings? Common I'm sure you have that info somewhere don't yea?
You can keep pretending that he is compliant but I'm sure you will have some explaining to do when we see the story on AVN news about perfectgonzo getting slapped with a Can Spam fines. As we both know, when guys like me are getting hammered by his non opt in mailings you know the general public is too.. so it's only a matter of time before the FTC hammers you.
You know I didn't expect this thread to go 2 pages, I figured it would be a quickie with someone hitting me on ICQ making sure I was off this guys list. I honestly don't care if you guys accept spam I'm just sick of getting it in my webmaster account.. Seems from a quick search on GFY and the fact that this topic is two pages going on three, well seems I'm not the only one.
Maybe you should do something about it, instead of pretending it's not a problem..Last edited by crockett; 08-29-2005, 07:22 AM.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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How about it David going to tell crockett where you got his mail from?Originally posted by David - PGSee Keyser, this is my job & I am passionate about my job. I don't waste time here, never have.
You however should evaluate if you spend your time in an efficient manner
Don't worry about me its kind of a hobby for me and its important to take time for ones hobbies.Truth TellerComment
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Crockett, you can do whatever you like.Originally posted by crockett
I told you if you wish to speak to us we have ICQ & webmaster support. It seems its more convenient for you to post a thread and then sit on your butt waiting to receive an ICQ message.Comment
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David since its a legit mailing why not just tell him where he opted in for your mailings?Originally posted by David - PGTruth TellerComment
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I don't have Crockett's email. You must be misinformed. He never emailed us.Originally posted by Keyser Soze
Ah ok. Yea each to his ownOriginally posted by Keyser Soze
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OK so if crockett gives you his email will you tell us where he opted in?Originally posted by David - PGI don't have Crockett's email. You must be misinformed. He never emailed us.
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How about it crockett mail David you email address and he will post here where you opted in for this OK with you?Truth TellerComment
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I am sure Crockett is grown up enough to email us himself. But he surely is happy you're acting on his behalf lolOriginally posted by Keyser Soze
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Why the back paddling you have the chance to once and for all to show me I am wrong and all your mailings are legit.Originally posted by David - PGI am sure Crockett is grown up enough to email us himself. But he surely is happy you're acting on his behalf lol
Why not do it?Truth TellerComment
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Hmmm Not sure what part you don't understand. We don't do any mailings.Originally posted by Keyser Soze
And for all third parties (affiliates) I make sure they're compliant with our rules. If this guy changed his email (templates or whatever) please email us and I will check them out. Last time (your case, 8 odd months ago) everything was ok.
Keyser why would it be in my interest to proove to you (!) that "our mailings" (quoting you) are "legit" (quoting you again)?Comment
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The girls from Perfect Gonzo are drop dead gorgeous.Originally posted by David - PGSure. Do you have a webmaster account with us? If so, post your ID. I have a 1-click function in our admin to add your webmaster user/pass to all our members areas.
Anybody else let me know
Acc# 239870
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Add WebmastersOriginally posted by Anna_OThe girls from Perfect Gonzo are drop dead gorgeous.
Acc# 239870
Thanks
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Done: DONE: Successfully ADDED
There you go ;)Comment
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Thank youOriginally posted by David - PG
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OK DavidOriginally posted by David - PG
So you accept webmasters spamming mails that look like they are can spam complient but are not and you don't care is that the conclusion I can draw from this thread?
I asked you if you wanted to prove to me that the mailings followed the can spam rules but you don't lead me to think you can't.
You had a chance to show your company plays by the rules only accepting webmasters that follow the can spam rules but it appearently doesn't interests you to do this makes me wonder if you have anything else to hide.
Good luck with it and I hope for you that rules against spamming don't come to the british virgin islands anytime soon.Truth TellerComment
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David, I think you are missing the point. Maybe the layout and set up of the mailings is legit, but you have webmasters telling you that they NEVER opted into the mail list, but are receiving up to 10 spam emails a day from one of your affiliates. It has nothing to do with headers or content...but these guys said they never opted in, so why haven't you terminated this affiliate for spamming? LIZZIE Comment
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Because he don't care he makes money from it and is located offshore.Originally posted by dirtydesignz
He just twists my words I know he is not the one doing the mailings and its one of his affiliates he told me this months ago he just tries to look good.Truth TellerComment
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Why should I do anything but sit on my butt and start this thread? I didn't opt in for the spam, I've hit the opt out in the past.. yet I still get them.Originally posted by David - PG
I posted on this board because these posts generally bring results. I figured if I was getting these in my webmaster E-mail account, then I know others are too. So IMO the best place to deal with this is on the boards.
You know as well as I do these are not compliant e-mails they are just faking it. You know I didn't opt in for these mails just like none of the other webmasters that have complained.. Yet you act as if it's no big deal and they guy is compliant.
I'm not going to contact you now after this because I don't trust you.. Next thing you know I'll be on 20 more mailers lists. Of course they would all be opt ins as well..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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This is not REAL DRAMA!!I'm just a newbie.Comment
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An affiliate program spamming counts as "real drama" these days?
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Originally posted by dirtydesignz
because he sends a lot of joins..simple as that.. Money talks and BS gets posted on GFYIn November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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David, I wanted to talk to you about something.
Where can i icq you or drop an email ?Comment
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