Is it illegal to steal wireless?

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  • Trax
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    • Aug 2001
    • 14486

    #1

    Is it illegal to steal wireless?

    Wireless internet access... let's say I'd be connected right now via someone elses unprotected inet connection.
    how bad am I
  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #2
    Originally posted by Trax
    Wireless internet access... let's say I'd be connected right now via someone elses unprotected inet connection.
    how bad am I
    Depends. People have been arrested though.

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    • Trax
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      • Aug 2001
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      #3
      ok... good to know if true

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      • sexxxydesign.com
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        • GatorB
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          • Oct 2001
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          #5
          Like I said depends on the area and how you are doing it. If you are parked outside someone's house and using a laptop you are probally will get busted. If you are stealing the neighbors then probally not. Here's the catch if you ask or I find out you a e using my connection and specifically tell you that it NOT ok for you to do that and you continue to use my connection, protected or not, that is in fact illegal.

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          • OzMan
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            • Sep 2003
            • 9162

            #6
            I was doing it earlier today testing out the browser on my PSP. On a 15 minute drive I found about 50 networks, over half of them were open. Some people have really weird SSID names

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            • reynold
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              • Oct 2002
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              • High Plains Drifter
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                • Jun 2005
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                #8
                I love the SSID names like "GetTheFuckOut!!" or "StayAWAY"... hey genius, how bout you don't broadcast the signal.

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                • Paul Waters
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #9
                  I have stopped by hotels to catch up on email. Found out I can usually do it from the parking lot.

                  Same with some pubs that offer free wireless.

                  There is also an open network in my office condo. I have connected to that inadvertantly many times.


                  Paul

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                  • Theo
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                    • May 2001
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                    #10
                    thief of digital resources, electronic gangsta !

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                    • StatsJunky
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                      #11
                      Buffdaddy, Fucko, HeilKraft. Weird names.
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                      • BigCashCrew Dude
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by StatsJunky
                        Buffdaddy, Fucko, HeilKraft. Weird names.
                        yea, they are...?

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                        • Mr. Mike
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                          • Aug 2004
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                          #13
                          Is it illegal to steal __________ ? Fill in the blank, no matter what it is, the answer is YES.

                          What kind of silly question is that?
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                          • abz
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                            • Apr 2001
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                            #14
                            probally

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                            • flashfire
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                              #15
                              probably but who cares

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                              • phonesex
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                                • Mar 2005
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                                #16
                                As long as your not doing anything illegal, who cares? I sometimes connect to the schools network. The school is across the street. Who gives a fuck?

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                                • High Plains Drifter
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                                  • Jun 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by phonesex
                                  As long as your not doing anything illegal, who cares? I sometimes connect to the schools network. The school is across the street. Who gives a fuck?
                                  This guy gives a fuck

                                  http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=915076

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                                  • porn-dog
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                                    • Jun 2005
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                    Like I said depends on the area and how you are doing it. If you are parked outside someone's house and using a laptop you are probally will get busted. If you are stealing the neighbors then probally not. Here's the catch if you ask or I find out you a e using my connection and specifically tell you that it NOT ok for you to do that and you continue to use my connection, protected or not, that is in fact illegal.
                                    Sorry your wrong. If you are hacking into that persons "secure" wireless connection, that is a crime. If you are simply picking up a connection off someones wireless that is configured for "open access" and doesn't need a password, you are fine. It would be the same as somebody broadcasting their radio wave into your house, and you picking it up... thats fine... if they want their wireless to be floating around in their nextdoor neighbours houses without the proper security thats their fault... fuck em.

                                    Not in Canada I know that.
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                                    • Mr. Mike
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                                      • Aug 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by porn-dog
                                      Sorry your wrong. If you are hacking into that persons "secure" wireless connection, that is a crime. If you are simply picking up a connection off someones wireless that is configured for "open access" and doesn't need a password, you are fine. It would be the same as somebody broadcasting their radio wave into your house, and you picking it up... thats fine... if they want their wireless to be floating around in their nextdoor neighbours houses without the proper security thats their fault... fuck em.

                                      Not in Canada I know that.
                                      UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, No buddy. YOU are wrong. Stealing is stealing. It;s a crime either way, one is just easier to detect.

                                      So if someone's car is unlocked, its ok to go in and steal it? If I leave my cell phone on the table and you use to make long distance calls, its OK?

                                      I realize it's common and done every single day and probably most will never get caught, doesnt mean its NOT illegal.

                                      Just a tiny bit of common sense, thats all I ask.
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                                      • PixeLs
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                                        • Jul 2005
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                                        #20
                                        It's not yours. Someone else is paying for that connection; somehow that's stealing.

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                                        • reed_4
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                                          • Jul 2005
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                                          #21
                                          we should better call a police now. lol

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                                          • justsexxx
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                                            • Aug 2001
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                                            #22
                                            It's not that you "hack" in, when it's really wide open. They broadcast the "open" signal, and you picked it up. As long as you don't abuse it, you will be okay I guess
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                                            • justsexxx
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                                              • Aug 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mr. Mike
                                              UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, No buddy. YOU are wrong. Stealing is stealing. It;s a crime either way, one is just easier to detect.

                                              So if someone's car is unlocked, its ok to go in and steal it? If I leave my cell phone on the table and you use to make long distance calls, its OK?

                                              I realize it's common and done every single day and probably most will never get caught, doesnt mean its NOT illegal.

                                              Just a tiny bit of common sense, thats all I ask.
                                              Well there is a difference here.

                                              When you leve the door open, I go in YOUR property/ground etc.

                                              They send the signal to public area's...Maybe even MY house! That is already a huge difference.

                                              What if the cableproviders makes a mistake, and shows paychannel X suddenly on your TV, while you did not pay for it...You never asked for this signal, but is it illegal to watch?
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                                              • GatorB
                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 18208

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by porn-dog
                                                Sorry your wrong. If you are hacking into that persons "secure" wireless connection, that is a crime. If you are simply picking up a connection off someones wireless that is configured for "open access" and doesn't need a password, you are fine. It would be the same as somebody broadcasting their radio wave into your house, and you picking it up... thats fine... if they want their wireless to be floating around in their nextdoor neighbours houses without the proper security thats their fault... fuck em.
                                                That's not necessarily true. If you are using my wireless and I find out and I say to you "You do not have permission" then if you continue to use it you are in fact breaking the law. Doesn't matter if it secure or not. You POV is like saying because I left my front door unlocked you can rob my house.

                                                Now if I give you permission then no you are not breaking the law. I however am breaking the TOS of my ISP. But that's not your problem.

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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by phonesex
                                                  As long as your not doing anything illegal, who cares? I sometimes connect to the schools network. The school is across the street. Who gives a fuck?
                                                  Well if it's a public school then it's paid for by your tax $ so I don't see a big deal about that.

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                                                  • Violetta
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                                                    • Jul 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    I have heard that it will become illigal!
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                                                    • StatsJunky
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                                                      • Aug 2005
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BigCashCrew Dude
                                                      yea, they are...?
                                                      Peoples names for wireless networks near me.
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                                                      • Cassie
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                                                        • DutchTeenCash
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                          Depends. People have been arrested though.
                                                          They have? Where? Wonder if thats illegal

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                                                          • Jonny
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                                                            • May 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by thinkx
                                                            They have? Where? Wonder if thats illegal
                                                            A man was last week fined £500 after a British jury found him guilty of using a neighborhood wireless broadband connection without permission. Gregory Straszkiewicz, 24, was also sentenced to a 12 months conditional discharge after he was convicted of dishonestly obtaining an communications service and related offences at London's Islewoth Crown Court last Wednesday (20 July).

                                                            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07..._driver_fined/

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                                                            • LadyMischief
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                                                              #31
                                                              If they leave it unsecured not much to be done.

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                                                              • Fred Quimby
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                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 5430

                                                                #32
                                                                I'm currently looking at 8 available wifi connections.

                                                                2 secured.

                                                                Is it my fault the my laptop was set up to detect the strongest signals 1st?

                                                                Answer = NO

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                                                                • Fred Quimby
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                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                  • 5430

                                                                  #33
                                                                  PS,,,just go in and add a password to their router.

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                                                                  • fris
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                                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    is it illegal to steal?

                                                                    duh


                                                                    it shouldnt be, cause people are so clueless when setting up wireless networks its almost asking you to surf their networks. they keep their whole lan open.

                                                                    you could walk downtown toronto with a laptop and just surf any big companies network, cause 75% of them are insecure.

                                                                    most of them have hired consultants at 200$/hour to come and secure it.

                                                                    live in a very populated area, i doubt you would even have to buy internet, just use someone elses
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                                                                    • Rinaldo
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                                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      what negative effect is tehre to usig someone's wireless? None right... no one can use all the bandwidth anyways can they?

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                                                                      • Breakyourself
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                                                                        • May 2005
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        its illegal in Uk they just did someone for it a few weeks back

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                                                                        • mardigras
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                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I think it should only be a prosecutable crime if you hack into a password protected account or if you tresspass to get the signal, such as the case of the SUV sitting in front of someone's house. If someone next door or down the road from a location you are authorized to be finds out that you have connected to their (problem) unsecured network I don't think they should be able to file charges against you unless you actually cost them money, then it should only be a civil case, not criminal (with of course the exception if you were using their access to commit criminal activity ).
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                                                                          • PussyTeenies
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            its illigal..

                                                                            but since its in the free air.. and you dont need to do any hacking etc. its legalized
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                                                                            • CherryLipsRosa
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Yeah it is illegal because taking something that is not yours is stealing regardless.
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                                                                              • Trax
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                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                hehe... i know its a legal border
                                                                                but like its been said ... my machine picked up the strongest signal which was not mine lol

                                                                                i also used the word illegal on purpose in the thread title lol
                                                                                this is gfy
                                                                                you need an attention grabber ;)

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                                                                                • Dagwolf
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                                                                                  • Sep 2003
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by laracash
                                                                                  Yeah it is illegal because taking something that is not yours is stealing regardless.
                                                                                  Wrong is not always illegal.
                                                                                  Illegal is not always wrong.
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