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  • woj
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    #251
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    • boner 2.0
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      • Jul 2004
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      #252
      Originally posted by woj
      250..........
      I must dream

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      • fatal attraction
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        • Feb 2003
        • 6522

        #253
        Originally posted by sltr
        i'm confused.

        heheh

        all i know is i deal with Bill and crew frequently and they are absolute professionals, from 2257 clarifications to offering top-notch content to the www.nubiles.net members.

        Bill and Troy always promptly reply to my emails and icq's and are absolute professionals, it's a pleasure doing business with them- period.
        hahaha! I just reread that..you know who the hell I am!


        icq in my sig.

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        • sltr
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          • Dec 2002
          • 3191

          #254
          Originally posted by fatal attraction
          hahaha! I just reread that..you know who the hell I am!


          icq in my sig.
          heya gorgeous! hahahah, u got me on that one ehehe

          what choo up to?

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          • fatal attraction
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            • Feb 2003
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            #255
            Originally posted by sltr
            heya gorgeous! hahahah, u got me on that one ehehe

            what choo up to?
            icq me sexy!

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            • sltr
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              • Dec 2002
              • 3191

              #256
              Originally posted by fatal attraction
              icq me sexy!
              hitted!

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              • cybermike
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                • Jan 2002
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                #257
                Nubiles is great people, it was a pleasure running into you guys in vegas at internext
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                • fatal attraction
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6522

                  #258
                  Originally posted by sltr
                  hitted!
                  You sir are amazing!

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                  • sltr
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 3191

                    #259
                    Originally posted by fatal attraction
                    You sir are amazing!
                    hehe, the pleasure was all mine

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                    • Nubiles
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                      • Apr 2002
                      • 1496

                      #260
                      No wire yet
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                      • RRACY
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1393

                        #261
                        Originally posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
                        No wire yet
                        I have a question for you Bill. Why would you pay this reject before receiving the work? All the sites and magazines that buy content from photogs inspect the work, model releases and id's before cutting checks. I hope he didn't request payment before the work was done cuz he had no money?
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                        • Shooting_Manic
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                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1740

                          #262
                          Originally posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
                          No wire yet

                          Its Sat... no shit. I told you quite clearly that it was sent at 3:32 yesterday. My bank, Bank One might not post till monday. Or, your bank might not post it till monday.


                          I expect a full and total retraction on Monday morning.

                          Yeah RRAY, im broke.. hahahaha can I have a loan? Maybe your halfway house in downtown Detroit has a room? Getting a bit clse to home am I?
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                          • Nickless
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #263
                            Originally posted by RRACY
                            I have a question for you Bill. Why would you pay this reject before receiving the work? All the sites and magazines that buy content from photogs inspect the work, model releases and id's before cutting checks. I hope he didn't request payment before the work was done cuz he had no money?
                            dunno about him, but i ask for 50% upfront to make sure i can cover the model, photographer, makeup, wardrobe, etc. costs for at least 50% of the project.

                            At least with new clients, there are too many deadbeats around to start shooting without a deposit

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                            • MaDalton
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 39861

                              #264
                              Originally posted by Nickless
                              dunno about him, but i ask for 50% upfront to make sure i can cover the model, photographer, makeup, wardrobe, etc. costs for at least 50% of the project.

                              At least with new clients, there are too many deadbeats around to start shooting without a deposit

                              for recurring clients we don't ask for a deposit - but for new customers we had to do that since we had some bad experiences in the past
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                              • Shooting_Manic
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                                • Jan 2005
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                                #265
                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                for recurring clients we don't ask for a deposit - but for new customers we had to do that since we had some bad experiences in the past

                                I dont ask for a 100% deposit either. Never have and never will. I will take a deposit to secure a certain model for a client, thats done all the time or for orders over 20k which all of mine are really. I normally take a 25% deposit for orders that size to cover upfront model expenses, outfits and locations if needed. Then the client pays the other 50-75% when the content is delivered.

                                Bill paid upfront and he was never ask to. No biggie. He wired it without me even asking. H edoes pay well and thats great. He didnt get his order fast enough so I gave it to him for free. Seems fair to me.

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                                • Nubiles
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                                  • Apr 2002
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                                  #266
                                  Originally posted by RRACY
                                  I have a question for you Bill. Why would you pay this reject before receiving the work? All the sites and magazines that buy content from photogs inspect the work, model releases and id's before cutting checks. I hope he didn't request payment before the work was done cuz he had no money?
                                  One thing to think about is time.Running to the bank for every 50% deposit means twice the amount of trips to the bank. You get to the bank, you wait in line, you wait for the teller to write the wire, you have to deal with her looking at your account and asking what you do. Thats at least an hour of time. Its so much easier to send a payment once. Most photographers ask for the payment when they send the work. Very few asked for it in the beginning. I fucked up, I couldnt image why someone would want to take my money and not produce anything, or not work quickly to make things right, and then still come to this board.

                                  If this guy really sent the content, lets see the tracking #.

                                  I am sure he will send a wire eventually, but the question is why does it have to be like this? I expressed concern so long ago. Why not just pay the $20 fed ex and overnight it. Or why not just say the shoot got ruined (if it was never shot) and return the money back then. It shouldnt be this difficult.

                                  Theres been more than one time when a photographer has said hes low on funds and asked me to run by the fed ex and get a check out or deposit in his account. You just do it, thats a part of working together.
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                                  • DutchTeenCash
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 21684

                                    #267
                                    This is going to be a major drama again, history all over

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                                    • Series
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                                      • Jul 2004
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                                      #268
                                      Wow... let's hope his bank doesn't screw up 2 wire attempts followed by a Western Union screw up as was in my case

                                      Good thing you're not in Canada or you might end up with $1500 Canadian back

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                                      • a1ka1ine
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                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 3387

                                        #269
                                        good luck getting paid/content nubiles! let us know how it works out

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                                        • keyboard warrior
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                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 1435

                                          #270
                                          will jeff ever quit ?
                                          - nothing here -

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                                          • RRACY
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                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 1393

                                            #271
                                            I hear what you're saying Bill. Let us know what happens in this very informative thread about this sociopath from MI.
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                                            • JFK
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                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 67369

                                              #272
                                              Originally posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
                                              One thing to think about is time.Running to the bank for every 50% deposit means twice the amount of trips to the bank. You get to the bank, you wait in line, you wait for the teller to write the wire, you have to deal with her looking at your account and asking what you do. Thats at least an hour of time. Its so much easier to send a payment once. Most photographers ask for the payment when they send the work. Very few asked for it in the beginning. I fucked up, I couldnt image why someone would want to take my money and not produce anything, or not work quickly to make things right, and then still come to this board.

                                              If this guy really sent the content, lets see the tracking #.

                                              I am sure he will send a wire eventually, but the question is why does it have to be like this? I expressed concern so long ago. Why not just pay the $20 fed ex and overnight it. Or why not just say the shoot got ruined (if it was never shot) and return the money back then. It shouldnt be this difficult.

                                              Theres been more than one time when a photographer has said hes low on funds and asked me to run by the fed ex and get a check out or deposit in his account. You just do it, thats a part of working together.
                                              Sorry to hear about your problems , did you ask for a tracking #(as if it matters) ?? As much as I hate to say, this is the same type of BULLSHIT... JEFF was pulling on people! Promises upon promises , phony tracking #'s,bank transfers and wires that never arrive, bad cheques. When you get your content, if you do , just hope the Girls have been paid! Jeff had a chance to re-invent himself and make good, looks like he just fucked up again in

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                                              • Shooting_Manic
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                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 1740

                                                #273
                                                Originally posted by RRACY
                                                I hear what you're saying Bill. Let us know what happens in this very informative thread about this sociopath from MI.

                                                Nice spelling moron.. hahahahahhahahahahahahahah! Hard to excpect more when youve hit bottom in the projects in Detroit. If you need a load, hit me up.


                                                JFk, you know better and youre smart. Read my responsed. Ive done everything I said I would do. When this Jeff asshole does the same, let me know.


                                                Last edited by Shooting_Manic; 08-20-2005, 06:42 PM.
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                                                • fatal attraction
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                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                  #274
                                                  hmmmm.....interesting icq!

                                                  I met shooting_manic at a party, it's Jeff. i have no idea why anyone is even arguing it isn't.

                                                  I've search for pictures from this party, very few on gfy. I haven't given up yet though.

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                                                  • sean416
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                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 3633

                                                    #275
                                                    Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                    Nice spelling moron.. hahahahahhahahahahahahahah! Hard to excpect more when youve hit bottom in the projects in Detroit. If you need a load, hit me up.


                                                    JFk, you know better and youre smart. Read my responsed. Ive done everything I said I would do. When this Jeff asshole does the same, let me know.


                                                    I just read the first and last pages of this thread so excuse me if this has been brought up already, but here's an easy solution.... post a picture of yourself?

                                                    People know what Perfection Jeff looks like, you say you're not him, post a picture.

                                                    Am I missing something?

                                                    I know you could post a fake pic easily, but that would seriously limit your ability to meet new people in this biz. So I say posting a pic here in this thread for all to see is a good solution. doooooooooo it

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                                                    • Nickless
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                                                      • Aug 2003
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                                                      #276
                                                      Originally posted by sean416
                                                      I just read the first and last pages of this thread so excuse me if this has been brought up already, but here's an easy solution.... post a picture of yourself?

                                                      People know what Perfection Jeff looks like, you say you're not him, post a picture.

                                                      Am I missing something?

                                                      I know you could post a fake pic easily, but that would seriously limit your ability to meet new people in this biz. So I say posting a pic here in this thread for all to see is a good solution. doooooooooo it
                                                      a pic with this thread on a monitor in the background should be pretty much solid proof

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                                                      • RRACY
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                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 1393

                                                        #277
                                                        Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                        Nice spelling moron.. hahahahahhahahahahahahahah! Hard to excpect more when youve hit bottom in the projects in Detroit. If you need a load, hit me up.


                                                        JFk, you know better and youre smart. Read my responsed. Ive done everything I said I would do. When this Jeff asshole does the same, let me know.


                                                        It's a bit ironic you'd question my spelling when you can't make even one post without spelling errors.
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                                                        • Shooting_Manic
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                                                          • Jan 2005
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                                                          #278
                                                          Originally posted by RRACY
                                                          It's a bit ironic you'd question my spelling when you can't make even one post without spelling errors.

                                                          LOL! Yeah, whatever dude, If Ebonics was my native tougue I guess I would have an excuse.


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                                                          • sean416
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                                                            #279
                                                            Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                            LOL! Yeah, whatever dude, If Ebonics was my native tougue I guess I would have an excuse.


                                                            any comment on the solution I proposed?

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                                                            • Shooting_Manic
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                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                              • 1740

                                                              #280
                                                              Originally posted by sean416
                                                              any comment on the solution I proposed?

                                                              Sure, when you start buying content from me. That and nothing more earns you the right. Hard to beleive that the industry actual survives without gfy .


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                                                              • sean416
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                                                                #281
                                                                Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                                Sure, when you start buying content from me. That and nothing more earns you the right. Hard to beleive that the industry actual survives without gfy .


                                                                Why the hostility?

                                                                You said you're sick and tired of people accusing that you're Perfection Jeff, here's a way to put it all to rest once and for all. I am not a customer of yours, I just read the thread and wondered why you or anyone else hadn't thought of this before.

                                                                You refusing to do this simple solution is in my opinion, proof that you are PF.

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                                                                • DamageX
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                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 14293

                                                                  #282
                                                                  Originally posted by fatal attraction
                                                                  hmmmm.....interesting icq!

                                                                  I met shooting_manic at a party, it's Jeff. i have no idea why anyone is even arguing it isn't.

                                                                  I've search for pictures from this party, very few on gfy. I haven't given up yet though.
                                                                  Hope you find the pics.
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                                                                  • RogerV
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                                                                    • Jul 2002
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                                                                    #283
                                                                    Sounds like Jeff is back to his old doings. I agree with what JFK said. fucks up a third time and people still buy from him..

                                                                    Shooting Manic I don't understand why you just don't show a pic to end all this

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                                                                    • Shooting_Manic
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                                                                      • Jan 2005
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                                                                      #284
                                                                      Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                      Sounds like Jeff is back to his old doings. I agree with what JFK said. fucks up a third time and people still buy from him..

                                                                      Shooting Manic I don't understand why you just don't show a pic to end all this

                                                                      Hope you have proof RogerV. Manicpushers sounds pretty cool.


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                                                                      • RogerV
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                                                                        #285
                                                                        Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                                        Hope you have proof RogerV. Manicpushers sounds pretty cool.



                                                                        you must be one strange dude becasue I just don't get ya
                                                                        Last edited by RogerV; 08-20-2005, 09:13 PM.

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                                                                        • DamageX
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                                                                          #286
                                                                          Bump for a pic.
                                                                          Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                          If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                          • RRACY
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                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                            • 1393

                                                                            #287
                                                                            Originally posted by Why

                                                                            THIS IS PERFECTION JEFF.

                                                                            is that the same guy you met recently?
                                                                            Would you trust your eighteen year old daughter with this creep?
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                                                                            • RRACY
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                                                                              • Dec 2003
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                                                                              #288
                                                                              That point and shoot is responsible for all those fraudulent perfection girl sites.
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                                                                              • RRACY
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                                                                                • Dec 2003
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                                                                                #289
                                                                                Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                Pics of Perfection Jeff, mind you these go back about 2 yrs, and btw I have No problems with Jeff at this point.Anything that was between us has been settled







                                                                                Here's a few more pics of the shooting idiot. It is really hard to imagine a more goofy looking person.
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                                                                                • fatal attraction
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                                                                                  #290
                                                                                  Thanks for the pics.

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                                                                                  • RRACY
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                                                                                    #291
                                                                                    Bill,

                                                                                    It's Monday, did you get your refund or content?
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                                                                                    • DamageX
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                                                                                      #292
                                                                                      Originally posted by RRACY
                                                                                      Bill,

                                                                                      It's Monday, did you get your refund or content?
                                                                                      Rhetorical?
                                                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                      • RRACY
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                                                                                        • 1393

                                                                                        #293
                                                                                        Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                        Rhetorical?
                                                                                        Serious question. Nubiles is well known on this board and it seems unbelievable he won't make payment. But who knows with this clown?
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                                                                                        • Shooting_Manic
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                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 1740

                                                                                          #294
                                                                                          Originally posted by RRACY
                                                                                          Serious question. Nubiles is well known on this board and it seems unbelievable he won't make payment. But who knows with this clown?

                                                                                          Nubiles is paid, ask him you fuck! And here ya go WHY... made this just for you assclown!



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                                                                                          • Series
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                                                                                            #295
                                                                                            How old are you?

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                                                                                            • Shooting_Manic
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                                                                                              • Jan 2005
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                                                                                              #296
                                                                                              Originally posted by Series
                                                                                              How old are you?

                                                                                              I'm 48, got a problem with that?
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                                                                                              • Why
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                #297
                                                                                                oh damn, you payed some rotten bum to hold a sign for you.

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                                                                                                • DamageX
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                                                                                                  #298
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Why
                                                                                                  oh damn, you payed some rotten bum to hold a sign for you.
                                                                                                  Wonder if paying him was cheaper than what he spent on soap and clothes.
                                                                                                  Whitehat is for chumps

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                                                                                                  • Nubiles
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                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                    Originally posted by RRACY
                                                                                                    Bill,

                                                                                                    It's Monday, did you get your refund or content?
                                                                                                    I see a pending wire fee for that amount so thanks for everyones support. Its sad that I had to go to the boards just to get my money back. The money wouldnt have been returned without all this drama. I think the problem was he only is doing shoots for solo girl sites and since my shoot was smaller, it was not even important enough to do. But I dont know what the real story is nor do I care.

                                                                                                    I do wish he would stop lying and saying that he sent me a refund AND the content, but that is beyond my control. He never sent the content nor will he ever. In my opinion I dont see how anyone can believe he is a different person than Perfection Jeff. Theres too much evidence already showing that he is Jeff, but its not my job to prove it to anyone.

                                                                                                    Let the absurd vicarious character continue without me . . . . . . I learned my lesson the hard way.
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                                                                                                    • AmateurFlix
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