Do any of you actually believe we didn't land on the moon?

50...........

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

i have serious doubts on it, would be extremely easy to fake it.

"Houston we have a problem...."

No We didn't, unless you were driving while I was passed out. But I have seen pics of the Michelin man on the moon.

One more thread like this and I'll believe the NASA just shoot that landing MGM studio.

We had one with a problem on a launch, one while landing, both caused by different things.

So, what difficulties are you referring to?

Precisely

Because orbiting around the earth is closer to get to and from and as they work their way further out they are not going to be able to rely on moons and planets. Using orbiting space stations now gives them the practice they will need later.

I saw a documetrary, that the documents were fake.

Prove that we did.. Then again, Prove that we didn't..

All I know is when I look through my Wal-Mart Telescope I don?t see any signs that we landed on the moon. Think our flag has fallen over yet?

Where you looking?

I welcome anyone who believes it was staged to post the evidence that has brought them to that conclusion. I'm sure a number of people will be able to shoot holes through it in minutes.

i think they (nasa) thinks a bit more about the safty and their rep now than they did back them.. if they lost a few people in space, it was just tough nookie, now they will be more or less closed down for 2+ years if it happens, so they dont want to take the risk!

now - also out of curiosity - how many of you that don't believe we went do believe in aliens and alien abductions?

I think they were on the moon...could they really keep the hoax going for this long?

Well, out of the few launches and landings we have had, that's not a very good ratio of success to failure.

What do you think the success ratio was on the very first cars, airplanes or chariots?

lmfao @ moon.google.com

Exactly. They made the whole thing up in a Hollywood studio dozens of people working on props, the set, camera men, lighting experts, director, actors, and not one person involved came out and exposed the truth.

we can't do it now, no way we did it then.

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, although I have *some* doubts. If it did happen, which it probably did, I'm amazed by its success.

They sent those Voyager things 3 billion miles away to take pictures of Neptune.

What makes you think they can't send a man a couple hundred thousand miles from earth to the moon?

3 billion?

lol

Isn't that the same guy who kidnapped Howard Hughes and replaced him with a imposter?

Yes according to this.

Neptune
Neptune, named for an ancient Roman sea god, is a stormy blue planet about 30 times farther from the Sun than Earth. Neptune was discovered when astronomers realized that something was exerting a gravitational pull on Uranus, and that it was possible that an unknown planet might be responsible. Through mathematical calculations, astronomers determined there was indeed an undiscovered planet out in space?a year before it was actually seen for the first time through a telescope (in 1846).

Size: About 4 times the size of Earth
Diameter: 30,775 miles (49,528 km)
Surface: A liquid layer covered with thick clouds and with constant, raging storms
Atmosphere: Hydrogen, helium, methane, and ammonia
Temperature: ?353°F (?214°C)
Rotation of its axis: 16 hours and 7 minutes
Rotation around the Sun: 165 Earth years
Your weight: Not known
Distance from Earth: 2,680,000,000 miles at closest point
Mean Distance from Sun: 2,796.46 million miles (4,497 million km)
Satellites: 13
Rings: 4

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0769141.html

uh oh

http://viral.lycos.co.uk/attachments...moontruth.mpeg

i was just thinking about that

I've never landed on the moon

Check out how many freemasons were part of NASA:



Freemasons have always been in the forefront of the scientific community; from the founding of the British Royal Society to today's NASA programme in the United States.
The following is a short and incomplete list 1 of Brethren who have contributed to the exploration of outer space.


Administration
Kenneth S. Kleinknecht2 Manager,
Apollo Program
Command and Service Modules.
Deputy Manager,
Gemini Program
Manager, Project Mercury. Fairview Lodge
No. 699 Fairview, Ohio
James Edwin Webb b. October 7, 1906 Administrator, NASA, 1961-1968 University Lodge
No. 408 Chapel Hill, North Carolina


Astronauts
Edwin E. "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr. b. January 20, 1930 Gemini XII, Apollo 11 Clear Lake Lodge
No. 1417 Seabrook, Texas
Leroy Gordon Cooper, Jr. b. March 6, 1927 Mercury 9, "Faith 7", Gemini V Carbondale Lodge
No. 82 Carbondale, Colorado
Donn F. Eisele b. June 23, 1930 Apollo 7 Luthor B. Turner
Lodge No. 732 Columbus Ohio
John H. Glenn, Jr. 3 b. July 18, 1921 Mercury 6, "Friendship 7" Concord Lodge
No. 688 New Concord, Ohio
Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom April 3, 1926 -
January 27, 1967 Mercury 4 "Liberty Bell 7", Gemini 3, Apollo 1 Mitchell Lodge
No. 228 Mitchell, Indiana
James Irwin 3 1930-1991 Apollo 15
Edgar D. Mitchell b. Sept. 17, 1930 Apollo 14 Artesia Lodge
No. 28 Artesia,
New Mexico
Walter M. Schirra, Jr. b. March 12, 1923 Mercury 8 "Sigma 7", Gemini VI, Apollo 7 Canaveral Lodge
No. 339 Cocoa Beach, Florida
Thomas P. Stafford b. Sept. 17, 1930 Gemini VII, Gemini IX-A, Apollo 10, Apollo 18 Western Star Lodge
No. 138 Weatherford, Oklahoma
Paul J. Weitz b. July 25, 1932 Skylab 2, Challenger (STS-6) Lawrence Lodge
No. 708 Erie, Pennsylvania


Scientists
Vannever Bush 1890-1974 computer pioneer and
internet visionary Richard C.
Maclaurin Lodge Cambridge, Massachusetts

NOTES:-
I. The New Age Magazine. Supreme Council 33° A.&A. Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction, Washington, D.C.: November 1969. pp. 14-30^
2. Eldest son of Christian Frederick Klienknecht. Ibid. page 23.^
3. Freemasons Who Made A Difference Jim Harrison. Gavel Society, Vancouver, Canada: 1992^

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Neil Armstrong, Jr. is not a Freemason; his father, Neil Armstrong, Sr. is an active Freemason. (Ohio Grand Lodge of Freemasons records).
Flight information cited from Spaceflight: A Smithsonian Guide. Valerie Neal, Cathleen S. Lewis, Frank H. Winter, in Association with the National Air and Space Museum, The Smithsonion Institution, Washington, D.C., New York, 1995.

You should see how many were members of the Knights of Columbus, or Sam's Club.

Scary stuff.

its possible that its all just a hoax.

Yeah, it is so easy to get several thousand people to cooperate in an elaborate hoax with no one able to spill the beans in 30+ years

Orson Wells was the kink of the hoax.

i don't think that it's just a hoax.

Our Apollo lunar soil samples chemically matched the Russian Luna space probes lunar soil. Case closed.

NASA counters the hoax claims pretty well HERE They offer more extensive explanations HERE.

There is kickass vintage video footage from NASA HERE

In our current day and age.. here in the year 2005.. what other FUCKING country is sending reusable spacecraft into space like America? Since everyone knows how to do it and it's so easy why aren't they doing it?

Being an American living overseas the last 3 years I get sick of this stereotypical small cock syndrome some non Americans have toward us. It's frustrating, but it's part of being American. There will always be those who get off on denying the undeniable. In the olden days it used to be oxygen doesn't exist because we can't see it

Americans are inventive, creative, and help move the world forward so get over it. I think other countries are pissed that we're also capable of this http://earth.google.com/ Read em and weep! We've mapped every square inch of this planet and made it available for free on the internet, for the world, oh those selfish, greedy Americans! When you get your countrymen to work their asses off like Americans, Japan and China then you can talk, until then the best and brightest will continue to leave your country for America because we rock!