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After Shock Media · 01-26-2007, 12:20 PM

We have never really spoke much, just occasional passing in threads. You seem to have great insight and understanding of the assorted MMA type organizations (UFC, Pride, so forth). You also seem to be able to explain things a little better to some of us that are really just getting into this sport as a spectator.

I have been watching this for the last year. Used to watch it years ago when anything went like repeated punches to the family jewels ect. Before it was banned or whatever.

Ok naturally I have seen the numerous arguments on here in regards to UFC fighters and Pride fighters. Now I will admit I have not caught any Pride fights myself. So I felt I would ask something here to better understand something. I do get that Pride uses a few different rules and a more boxing style ring.

After watching the UFC fight last night on Spike TV. They were bringing in (introducing) a former Pride fighter into his first UFC fight. Everyone had speculated that his opponent was meant to be a easy victim. Now anyone that watched the fight also watched what appeared to be an average at best UFC fighter manhandle and just out right dominate the former Pride fighter. It became painfully obvious that the former Pride fighter was actually acting like a pussy begging the referee to stand them back up. The former Pride fighter aside from having no noticeable ground game in the least, it also was very apparent he had zero take down defense as well. Of course he bitched to Rogan at the end of the fight about wanting to stand and fight and this is not supposed to be some wrestling match.

Now having watched such fighters as Lidel and such who are strikers and do not want shit on the ground. All of them seem to have very strong take down defenses as well as at least ok to decent ground defense. They know how to keep a fight on their feet.

So I ask is this a look into what I should expect when other Pride fighters come into the UFC, is stand up the norm and expected there? Do they possess ground skills or at least take down defenses? Yeah I know even I appreciate a good knockout, but I appreciate a good submission or ground and pound just as much. Was this a fluke, or a wake up call to some to get some more ground training?

K thanks for your time.

01-26-2007, 12:20 PM
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Hey Anthony RE:MMA We have never really spoke much, just occasional passing in threads. You seem to have great insight and understanding of the assorted MMA type organizations (UFC, Pride, so forth). You also seem to be able to explain things a little better to some of us that are really just getting into this sport as a spectator. I have been watching this for the last year. Used to watch it years ago when anything went like repeated punches to the family jewels ect. Before it was banned or whatever. Ok naturally I have seen the numerous arguments on here in regards to UFC fighters and Pride fighters. Now I will admit I have not caught any Pride fights myself. So I felt I would ask something here to better understand something. I do get that Pride uses a few different rules and a more boxing style ring. After watching the UFC fight last night on Spike TV. They were bringing in (introducing) a former Pride fighter into his first UFC fight. Everyone had speculated that his opponent was meant to be a easy victim. Now anyone that watched the fight also watched what appeared to be an average at best UFC fighter manhandle and just out right dominate the former Pride fighter. It became painfully obvious that the former Pride fighter was actually acting like a pussy begging the referee to stand them back up. The former Pride fighter aside from having no noticeable ground game in the least, it also was very apparent he had zero take down defense as well. Of course he bitched to Rogan at the end of the fight about wanting to stand and fight and this is not supposed to be some wrestling match. Now having watched such fighters as Lidel and such who are strikers and do not want shit on the ground. All of them seem to have very strong take down defenses as well as at least ok to decent ground defense. They know how to keep a fight on their feet. So I ask is this a look into what I should expect when other Pride fighters come into the UFC, is stand up the norm and expected there? Do they possess ground skills or at least take down defenses? Yeah I know even I appreciate a good knockout, but I appreciate a good submission or ground and pound just as much. Was this a fluke, or a wake up call to some to get some more ground training? K thanks for your time. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]