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  • S.A.K.
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    Pass a piss test to receive welfare?

    I just read an interesting article from a person that brought up what I think is a good point. Most hard working americans are subject to random drug testing through their jobs and are required to pay taxes on the wages they earn. The woman wondered why people who receive welfare shouldnt be subject to the same procedure. I for one think its a great idea. Anyone else?
  • Forest
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    • Aug 2001
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    #2
    I think its a good idea

    I actually know several people who collect welfare only to buy crack with it

    its all over the place down here

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    • JD
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      • Sep 2003
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      #3
      Originally posted by Forest
      I think its a good idea

      I actually know several people who collect welfare only to buy crack with it

      its all over the place down here

      ok.... i'd suggest not knowing those people anymore

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      • escorpio
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        • Oct 2002
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        #4
        They should make them work for their god damn welfare AND take a piss test.
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        • HAPPYPEEKERS
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          • Feb 2004
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          #5
          I think it is a GREAT idea.. I know a couple that live off of welfare and sell pills that they get for money..

          It honestly makes me want to puke every April 15th when we have to pay SO MUCH in taxes and they get back around $5000 for having 4 kids and sitting on their asses all day every day.

          The system is messed up
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          • Nookster
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            #6
            A very good idea.
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            • Forest
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              #7
              Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
              ok.... i'd suggest not knowing those people anymore

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              • escorpio
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                ok.... i'd suggest not knowing those people anymore
                Unless one day you want to come home and find your stereo and t.v. missing.
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                • Cyndalie
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                  • Jan 2002
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                  #9
                  The idea has merit for those receiving money. However I dont think the govt should withhold foodstamps or medical care for those who fail or refuse to take the tests. And we'd have to step up our efforts to provide assistance to recovering addicts. You don't want people starving to death on the streets of America simply based on principal alone, as unfortunate as that sounds.
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                  • Cyrano
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                    • Apr 2006
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cyndalie
                    The idea has merit for those receiving money. However I dont think the govt should withhold foodstamps or medical care for those who fail or refuse to take the tests. And we'd have to step up our efforts to provide assistance to recovering addicts. You don't want people starving to death on the streets of America simply based on principal alone, as unfortunate as that sounds.
                    Agreed, the implications could in theory be more costly.

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                    • beemk
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                      #11
                      i agree, theres no reason our hard earned $ we pay towards taxes should pay for some losers drug addiction.
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                      • Mr. Romance
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                        #12
                        very good point my friend!


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                        • DaddyHalbucks
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by escorpio
                          They should make them work for their god damn welfare AND take a piss test.

                          What he said.
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                          • Agent 488
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #14
                            poor people deserve to get high too.

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                            • Lazonby
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Happypeekers
                              I think it is a GREAT idea.. I know a couple that live off of welfare and sell pills that they get for money..

                              It honestly makes me want to puke every April 15th when we have to pay SO MUCH in taxes and they get back around $5000 for having 4 kids and sitting on their asses all day every day.

                              The system is messed up
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                              • HomeFry
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                                • Jun 2006
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                The idea has merit for those receiving money. However I dont think the govt should withhold foodstamps or medical care for those who fail or refuse to take the tests. And we'd have to step up our efforts to provide assistance to recovering addicts. You don't want people starving to death on the streets of America simply based on principal alone, as unfortunate as that sounds.
                                Some people trade food stamps for cash, then go buy drugs with the $. They give like $10.00 in food stamps for $5.00 cash.
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                                • PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE
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                                  #17
                                  Great idea.

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                                  • Stephen
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                                    • Feb 2003
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                                    #18
                                    A great idea, but it'd never become law in a democratic controlled congress

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                                    • Phoenix
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                                      • Nov 2002
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                                      #19
                                      if anyone here wants to sell their foodstamps..i am buying at 60% of value

                                      let me know ;)
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                                      • gavindanza
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                                        • Jan 2007
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                                        #20
                                        they should have to take a piss, and a hair test. it's to easy for these people to get welfare. i know for sure that alot of em are drivin' new rides, have plasmas at home with the comfy leather to sit on.. so on and so forth....

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                                        • baddog
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                          You don't want people starving to death on the streets of America simply based on principal alone, as unfortunate as that sounds.
                                          ummm, why not?

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                                          • D
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                                            • Jan 2006
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                                            #22
                                            It's an idea that has its strong points, certainly...

                                            But, personally, I have to balk at anything that invades citizen privacy rights... it's a slippery slope.
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                                            • american pervert
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                                              • Sep 2002
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                                              #23
                                              not only should the piss test, you should be sterilized too
                                              I can resist everything except temptation

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                                              • american pervert
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                                                • Sep 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by D_hodough
                                                It's an idea that has its strong points, certainly...

                                                But, personally, I have to balk at anything that invades citizen privacy rights... it's a slippery slope.


                                                its not private when they are getting public assistance, since they are unable to support themselves and the gov't is picking up the tab, they have lost the right to privacy
                                                I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                • DjSap
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                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Wait she also suggested that they should pay tax of their welfare? That's the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.
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                                                  • Masterchief
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                                                    • Jun 2006
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                                                    #26
                                                    I dont get why people make a big deal of out welfare, it's a pretty small fraction of spending and the implications of not doing it would be even worse. If anything, you should go after the people like me that get away with charging the government $xx,xxx for a day's worth of work. Somewhere on the ssa website there's an itemized expense list.

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                                                    • Pleasurepays
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                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      this is all very unfair to drug addicts collecting welfare and the drug dealers who serve them and all the state social service agencies that have to spend their time running around trying the collect children being brought up in these homes. i hate short sighted policy like this.

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                                                      • L-Pink
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                                                        • Mar 2005
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                        ok.... i'd suggest not knowing those people anymore

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                                                        • Peaches
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 13933

                                                          #29
                                                          And after kid two and you're still on Welfare, you agree to get the birth control shot. Having kids WHILE on welfare is just irresponsible (and ignorant). But with 3rd and 4th generation welfare recipients, it's a way of life for many.

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                                                          • escorpio
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                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                            poor people deserve to get high too.
                                                            Fuck 'em. I work hard to support my drug habit.
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                                                            • madawgz
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                                                              #31
                                                              so...what will happen to the people who dont pass the drug test?

                                                              they will become homeless
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                                                              • american pervert
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                so...what will happen to the people who dont pass the drug test?

                                                                they will become homeless

                                                                they should make the homeless into soilent green
                                                                I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                • robfantasy
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                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  if you are on welfare for more than a year, you should just be killed
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                                                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    on a serious note... wasn't the welfare system reformed already somewhat? with limits on how long people could qualify and that they had to find a job etc etc etc?

                                                                    didn't clinton push something like that through?

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                                                                    • HeadPimp
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                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 2772

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I would suppord that sort of rule. Seems fair enough that if you are going to be using my money, that you shouldn't be out partying with it.

                                                                      Of course I am pretty much for wiping out welfare as it stands.

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                                                                      • Matt 26z
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                                                                        • Apr 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        And what if they fail the drug test? Any action you take against them will have terrible results for everyone else.

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                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          i figured id get more responses to my offer
                                                                          i can go up to 65% of the value of food stamps.

                                                                          with all the testimony here here on how evil being poor is..i figured we must have a bunch of people on here who know what it is like to be down and out.
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                                                                          • After Shock Media
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            There are now welfare time limits in place.
                                                                            HUD or Government housing assistance has a strict drug policy already.

                                                                            That aside I would not agree with the drug testing as it is harsh and socially biased. Specially since they would not be testing against alcohol usage, which is the most problematic in my eyes.

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                                                                            • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by escorpio
                                                                              They should make them work for their god damn welfare AND take a piss test.
                                                                              Agreed We are all getting screwed by lazy fuckers that dont need or desreve it.

                                                                              It won't be long until every American will have to take a piss test to get a drivers LIC..... Remember, it is a privilage to drive, not a right, so they can do just about anything they want with regards to changing driving laws.
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                                                                              • D
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by american pervert
                                                                                its not private when they are getting public assistance, since they are unable to support themselves and the gov't is picking up the tab, they have lost the right to privacy
                                                                                That's one way to look at it, sure...

                                                                                But, then, are you also saying that anyone applying for a loan from a Federal Credit Union, or anyone receiving a government loan or grant for school should be required to expose every ounce of their private life to the public as well?

                                                                                What about tax exempt peeps that visit a national park, or federally recognized disabled people that drive a car on our roads... does that mean they should have to take a piss test, too?

                                                                                Like I said - it's a slippery slope... best to just avoid going down that road as much as you're able, imho.
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                                                                                • american pervert
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                  There are now welfare time limits in place.
                                                                                  HUD or Government housing assistance has a strict drug policy already.

                                                                                  That aside I would not agree with the drug testing as it is harsh and socially biased. Specially since they would not be testing against alcohol usage, which is the most problematic in my eyes.

                                                                                  fuck they should do that too like they do with mult. dui offenders in cali. if you are getting welfare you are not allowed anything
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                                                                                  • Verity
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    volunteer work, rehab and drug testing for welfare. makes sense, but perhaps a little idealist.
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                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I think its a very good idea

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                                                                                      • smack
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        i am against drug tests across the board.

                                                                                        i think it is ridiculous that something you do in your free time could cause you to lose your job.

                                                                                        if i go home after a long day of work, smoke a joint, and then come in the next day to get drug tested, and get fired, that is just bullshit.

                                                                                        if they are going to do that, they should start firing everyone who has beers after they get off work.

                                                                                        now if the drugs interfere with your ability to work i don't see a problem with testing, the potentially firing them, but randomly is just bullshit. if it is not effecting your job performance i don't think it is neccesary.

                                                                                        -edit-

                                                                                        i don't think drug tests are the answer to helping reform our welfare system, it is a much more complex problem than that.
                                                                                        Last edited by smack; 01-25-2007, 12:49 PM.
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                                                                                        • escorpio
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by smack
                                                                                          i am against drug tests across the board.

                                                                                          i think it is ridiculous that something you do in your free time could cause you to lose your job.

                                                                                          if i go home after a long day of work, smoke a joint, and then come in the next day to get drug tested, and get fired, that is just bullshit.

                                                                                          if they are going to do that, they should start firing everyone who has beers after they get off work.

                                                                                          now if the drugs interfere with your ability to work i don't see a problem with testing, the potentially firing them, but randomly is just bullshit. if it is not effecting your job performance i don't think it is neccesary.

                                                                                          -edit-

                                                                                          i don't think drug tests are the answer to helping reform our welfare system, it is a much more complex problem than that.
                                                                                          I agree with you 100%, smack, but going to the mailbox once a month and saying "Hello, check!" ain't a job.
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                                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            All this would do is turn all welfare drug addicts into alcoholics or homeless. just what we need..

                                                                                            Facts are i'm sure alot more people spend cash on drugs who ARENT on welfare..

                                                                                            They should drug test me when i pay my taxes and if i'm high on drugs they should refuse to take my taxes..
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                                                                                              • PR_EZEKIEL
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by escorpio
                                                                                                They should make them work for their god damn welfare AND take a piss test.
                                                                                                why doesn't the government do that? seriously. make these people work the 15 or whatever hours a week they're pretty much getting paid for.
                                                                                                Unless they're physically disabled. then make them work for the money in some way.
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                                                                                                • kenny
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                  if anyone here wants to sell their foodstamps..i am buying at 60% of value

                                                                                                  let me know ;)
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                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by D
                                                                                                    It's an idea that has its strong points, certainly...

                                                                                                    But, personally, I have to balk at anything that invades citizen privacy rights... it's a slippery slope.
                                                                                                    If they want privacy rights they can get a job.

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