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Old 01-24-2007, 04:43 PM  
Pointless
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Well, as with any big story, there are a lot of unfounded rumours flying about. Let's dispell a few shall we...

20-50 networks sued, affiliates as well.

just because someone 'said' it doesn't make it true. I assume you read that on Shoe's blog and what Jon is spouting on Wicked fire because of the numbers you are quoting.
Shoe and Jon are smart guys. I love them both. THEY also love links and attention, I mean smoochie smoochie behind the bushes looooove links and attention. BUT they are also smart.
Shoe says:
"Scott Richter is telling people here at Affiliate Summit"
Shoe himself is saying nothing is or isn't true, Scott naturally has many reasons to say all sorts of things at this point.
I have spoken to many network execs and am one myself. NONE of them have received anything.
You will also note that Jon quickly withdrew what he was saying.
"Removed the list. Too many what if's. Wouldn't be fair to the networks that I originally mentioned without seeing their lawsuit files. Will post the list again when everything is confirmed, in writing."

They are after Scott Richter for Bulletin Spamming
No. They are suing Scott for allegedly being complicate with and participating in Phishing schemes. I don't know what evidence they have to prove that, but good luck to them. Bulletin spamming is what they alleged happened with these phished accounts. But making use of phished accts is where they appear to be laying their cards.


That the CAN-SPAM act is being violated by anyone here.
mySpace is trying to use the CAN-SPAM act to prosecute Scott. I laugh heartily at that. The CAN-SPAM act is very specifically about unsolicited email marketing. The best thing that could come out of this is that the act is expanded to include these sorts of actions. Phishing is a big problem on the net, causing identity theft etc etc. Phishing needs to be addressed by the courts. Maybe this will help bring that about. But I reeeeally doubt Scott will get trouble. I mean they have to prove that HE did the phishing and that harm was caused by it. We are talking about mySpace logins... not bank, VISA and paypal accts. mySpace is drawing at straws on this one. Good luck to them... will probably get thrown out before it even hits the courts.

People using adder bots etc to promote their business, offers or otherwise are next.
mySpace is desperate for a target that makes them look good and is an easy win. Scott is that... an easy target. He has had previous run ins and is a known alledged spammer. CPAEmpire has deep pockets and could pay a big fine. Ipod and Polo shirt offers are harmless on the surface. People like to rally around lynching a 'spammer'.
If they REALLY wanted to stop spam they should:
Fix their crappy code
Start policing the profiles and content better.
The first step for anyone is a Cease and Desist order. If they are after YOU you'll get one of those first.

If they want to catch a bad guy, they should go after the BAD GUYS!
mySpace is FULL of ads for porn, webcams, phishing scams for paypal accts, worms and redirects that load computers with spyware/malware and create zombie networks. THOSE are the bad guys! Inundating 14 yr old kids with ads for Granny Porn and Viagra. But... that doesn't make a great headline does it?

"MySpace full of porn and spyware... They finally making futile attempt at slowing the flood."
hmmmm... maybe i won't let my 16yr old daughter visit that site anymore... sounds like a bad place.
But really THAT is the worst problem, the problem we all want to see go away.
Instead we have:
"MySpace Brings Suit to Stop Spam"
and
''MySpace sues Spam King"
much easier to get behind that...

now.. all that being said. I am NOT saying that it is ok to spam mySpace or anyone/thing else. I am just dispelling some rampant misinformation. PPL in this industry love to be Chicken Littles. And love to act like they are 'in the know'. Others like to wait until the facts are in. And they have only just begun to come in. This will be a loooong process.
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