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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
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    #51
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      • Rockhound
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        • Jan 2003
        • 334
        #52
        I think Buah is gonna calm down for a bit just so he can go into full blown war JUAT as his term comes to an end and there isnt an election so he can stay even LONGER
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          • Pleasurepays
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            • Aug 2002
            • 11913
            #53
            Originally posted by mrgica
            I was talking about china and russia together, because in the post I quoted the guy was talking about "taking care of" those two counties, but relax Im not an anti-american, I rather see USA rule then china or russia or iran or iraq....etc..

            Here is some fact to chew on:

            China Population: 1,306,000,000 people
            Russia Population: 143,500,000 people

            China's military manpower:
            Availability: 18-49 years: 342,956,265 (2005 est.)
            Fit for military service: 18-49 years: 281,240,272 (2005 est.)
            REACHING military age annually: 13,186,433 (2005 est.)
            Military expenditures - dollar figure: $67.49 billion (2004)
            Military branches:
            People's Liberation Army (PLA): Ground Forces, Navy (includes marines and naval aviation), Air Force (includes Airborne Forces), and II Artillery Corps (strategic missile force); People's Armed Police Force (internal security troops considered to be an adjunct to the PLA); Militia (2003)


            Russia's military manpower:
            Availability: 18-49 years: 35,247,049 (2005 est.)
            Fit for military service: 21,049,651 (2005 est.)
            Reaching military age annually: 1,286,069 (2005 est.)
            Military expenditures - dollar figure: Not known
            Military branches:
            Ground Forces (SV), Navy (VMF), Air Forces (VVS); Airborne Troops (VDV), Strategic Rocket Troops (RVSN), and Space Troops (KV) are independent "combat arms," not subordinate to any of the three branches


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            All Im trying to say is don't underestimate countries (military) that you know so little about, its ridiculous.
            Russia could not take out 15,000 guys armed with nothing more than RPG's and AK-47s in Chechnya in the first war and eventually surrendered to them and gave them their independence. Russia had tanks, planes, helicopters w/missiles/guns, artillery and so on and still got taken apart peice by piece. The second war started and they said it would take 2 weeks and they are still fighting many years later after they threw well over 100,000 troops, air power, tanks, artillery etc etc etc at what they estimated to be arond 10,000 "rebels".

            The only way they made any headway at all was by indescriminately bombing civilian cities and targets. Grozny and other cities were completely leveled and they still got their asses kicked.

            Russia was never a threat through the cold war years. Anyone that has spent considerable time in Russia after the collapse knows this. China has a smaller military than Russia does i believe and i doubt thier technology is any better than the SCUDS that were falling over and exploding on their own during Desert Storm.

            Sorry... Russia and China are not military threats in todays world. Putting on an air show demonstrating a next generation fighter plane is not the same as having 1000's of them in active service with pilots training day in and day out every day to fight with them and the ability to maintain and replace them.

            Last edited by Pleasurepays; 08-18-2005, 05:17 PM.

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              • BlueDesignStudios
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                • Feb 2003
                • 9492
                #54
                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                Russia was never a threat through the cold war years.
                you dont' think those nukes on cuba were a threat?

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                  • BlueDesignStudios
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 9492
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                    Must we fight? I say let commies be commies, let Muslims be Muslims, let Christian capitalists be Christian capitalists. Unless they're going to attack us, I say leave them alone. Lost too many friends and relatives to war already.
                    yes we must keep fighting to spread peace & democracy - it's ok cos we're sacrificing the lives of others for a just cause.

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                      • PixeLs
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                        • Jul 2005
                        • 11922
                        #56
                        Kinda scary thought but the probability is low. There will be no more war til Bush ends his term (kinda prophetic here)

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                          • reed_4
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 9640
                            #57
                            USA wants to dominate the world.

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                              • Pleasurepays
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 11913
                                #58
                                Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                you dont' think those nukes on cuba were a threat?
                                i did not mean it like that. i mean Russia was never the threat that they were hyped up to be through the 70's and 80's. and i meant it within the context of characterizing these nations as massive threats today or them being sleeping giants that can be woken up one day and destroy anything/anyone in their paths. thats just not a possibility for either country.

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                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 11913
                                    #59
                                    further, two countries with economies smaller than that of California are not going to be a global military threat anytime soon.

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