How many of you make over 8cents/1st page click on pure tgp traffic?

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  • Theo
    HAL 9000
    • May 2001
    • 34515

    #1

    How many of you make over 8cents/1st page click on pure tgp traffic?

    and i'm talking about steadily revenues here. Sponsors can twist the numbers all they want, but if the paysites you promote doesn't rebill like a motherfucker you will not earn not even a portion of the potential value of your surfers regardless if its PPS or revshare.

    Hopefully, justsexxx will see this thread and confirm that a large number of Diesel Action affiliates that run tgps making at least 8cents/1st page click.

    still not convinced that your tgp traffic will make more money on our hands than 99% of the paysites out there? Contact me on icq and i'll prove you the opposite.
  • pussyluver
    Clueless OleMan
    • Mar 2003
    • 11009

    #2
    lots of varibles there. we'd like 8 cents per click on a 300K TGP with a productivity of 500%. 8 cents/click is not typical of tgp traffic and really can't be unlsss one rellay limits traffic and doesn't trade.

    Let's add no traps or popup/exit hell.

    Now can you still do it.

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    • Theo
      HAL 9000
      • May 2001
      • 34515

      #3
      Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

      first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
      second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
      Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

      If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that.

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      • justsexxx
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Aug 2001
        • 13723

        #4
        I read this and I can confirm it :-)
        Questions?

        ICQ: 125184542

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        • soukee
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 1108

          #5
          I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...
          I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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          • Theo
            HAL 9000
            • May 2001
            • 34515

            #6
            I dont think you are reffering to DA, but regardless I can make you more than that if you contact me. Getting the earnings per unique - first page click I believe is better.

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            • Rui
              web
              • Dec 2001
              • 9533

              #7
              I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

              I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

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              • 12clicks
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 19814

                #8
                how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • justsexxx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 13723

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rui
                  I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

                  I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S
                  Stupid you But you can start over now
                  Questions?

                  ICQ: 125184542

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                  • Jakke PNG
                    ex-TeenGodFather
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 20306

                    #10
                    I made $25/click yesterday for a certain sponsor, unfortunately my averages are about 3-4c/click.
                    ..and I'm off.

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                    • Oracle Porn
                      Affiliate
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 24433

                      #11
                      Originally posted by soukee
                      I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...
                      same here


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                      • Theo
                        HAL 9000
                        • May 2001
                        • 34515

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rui
                        I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

                        I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

                        true, i'm trying to cut this bad habit, but it's not easy hehe


                        point of thread is that rebills is the only way your traffic will ever reach the potential max. earnings. If you believe the opposite we can discuss it. I'll comment on popups, upsales and emails gathered in a bit.

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                        • VeriSexy
                          Join The Royal Family
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 25463

                          #13
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                          • StatsJunky
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 639

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                            how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?
                            I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.
                            erik AT suthnet.com

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                            • Theo
                              HAL 9000
                              • May 2001
                              • 34515

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VeriSexy
                              Then why not start a PPC with no ratios
                              PPC system is great for queries, but for paysite business it's not good imo. As many newbies I started using ppc sponsors believing it was the best for me. At this point of time if i switch my traffic to the best ppc adult sponsors i'll go in debt. Possible a hybrid-ppc could have potentials to be considered close to fair, but in general it's really unfair for both affiliates and sponsors + you have to monitor it for fraud all the day/night.

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                              • pussyluver
                                Clueless OleMan
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 11009

                                #16
                                Originally posted by StatsJunky
                                I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.


                                Got that beat - whew...

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                                • pussyluver
                                  Clueless OleMan
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 11009

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                  Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

                                  first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
                                  second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
                                  Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

                                  If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that.

                                  First there are a ton of details - more than we may want to go into here. Geee if every one knew everthing, then it would be harder to make $. FHG have not proven to be that great on conversion for most sponsors. They also represent leakage from an SEO point of view.

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                                  • Theo
                                    HAL 9000
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 34515

                                    #18
                                    Most sponsors wont make you anything close to what i mentioned on tgp traffic. Why? They don't know about traffic and by requesting yours they don't respect it. Hard, but true words.

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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #19
                                      can you explain me what do you mean with seo leakage and approx. what % of the sales it can represent?

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                                      • Theo
                                        HAL 9000
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 34515

                                        #20
                                        pussyluver still around?

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                                        • pussyluver
                                          Clueless OleMan
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 11009

                                          #21
                                          Yeah, been working - leave GFY open. I should close it so the green button goes off. Sorry about that.

                                          You claim to know about traffic, then you should know about SEO leakage and FHG. By asking, you send a message. Hate to be ass, but I'll get over it. WTF, it is GFY. The answer is all over the SEO boards and white papers BTW.

                                          I'll look at your program (sponsors program).

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                                          • Theo
                                            HAL 9000
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 34515

                                            #22
                                            I don't claim to know everything and still I don't understand what do you mean. It would help if you explain me and/or poossible the rest. If you believe somehow you are losing sales from this seo leakage by letting us know there are more chances to fix it

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                                            • JD
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 22651

                                              #23
                                              You should give www.makingcoin.com a shot. The new hardcore girls www.tinytobi.com and www.alexa18.com are converting like a mutha

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                                              • Dalai lama
                                                Strength and Honor
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 16540

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
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                                                • AmateurFlix
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 7762

                                                  #25
                                                  How is someone going to have SEO leakage with FHG's on a separate domain from their paysite?

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                                                  • aleck
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 940

                                                    #26
                                                    8cents? not bad. niches?
                                                    come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                    • beemk
                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 20829

                                                      #27
                                                      i have some sponsors that pay that or more. most dont on tgp traffic though.... or they give u some bs number like 2nd page etc
                                                      I host with Vacares

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                                                      • Theo
                                                        HAL 9000
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 34515

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aleck
                                                        8cents? not bad. niches?

                                                        strictly teen

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                                                        • Theo
                                                          HAL 9000
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 34515

                                                          #29
                                                          let's get the popup/exits/upsales/mailouts as revenue source vs rebills rolling here

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                                                          • Theo
                                                            HAL 9000
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 34515

                                                            #30
                                                            entrance/exit popup revenues
                                                            -------------------------

                                                            When was the last time you saw a popup that draw your attention? More likely a long time ago. Guess what, same happens with the average surfer. Add on this the huge % of people that block popups and those that get very annoyed by them..... these factors have drop the popup revenues A LOT. I currently buy myself almost all the popup inventory of one of 10 largest adult sponsors so I can fairly comment on this. I see some sponsors offer up to $10 payout difference between popup and non-popup tours. Maybe they won't like it, but it's ridiculous claim.

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                                                            • aleck
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 940

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                              strictly teen
                                                              ouch. thanks
                                                              come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                              • Theo
                                                                HAL 9000
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 34515

                                                                #32
                                                                upsales revenues
                                                                -------------------
                                                                Members areas have valuable traffic. It's equivalent to AVS traffic. CC holders browsing porn in both cases. All great so far, but putting the numbers down you'll see upsales cannot be such a significant % of the overall value of your clients. This used to be different in the past when optin mailing was going strong, but not anymore. I'll come this in a bit.

                                                                in the meantime check sig!

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                                                                • JD
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 22651

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                  strictly teen
                                                                  Like I said. Try the makingcoin chicks.

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                                                                  • wedouglas
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                    • 5921

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I've got sponsors doing way better than .08, just not on TGP.

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                                                                    • Trax
                                                                      [----------------------]
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 14486

                                                                      #35
                                                                      on the large portion of my SE traffic I don't even do 8 cents a unique lol
                                                                      i mean... i got sponsors doing anywhere from 10-50 cents a unique
                                                                      but this is not the average
                                                                      8 cents on TGP - if true- is awesome

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                                                                      • Theo
                                                                        HAL 9000
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 34515

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Trax, if you mean from seo it's result of various type of queries which is harder to convert, but volume makes up. If celeb traffic is large part of it I'll join your club, since the ratios I'm getting from ALL sponsors are horrible least to say hehe

                                                                        Now if you are reffering to PPC traffic I'm sure you are doing way more on average, since you have a better chance to target the surfers you receive.

                                                                        A teen tgp on our sites will do better than a hardcore tgp by default. I'm sure we do not operate the only paysites where some tgp webmasters do over 8cents/click steadily. Rebills are the secret behind that. Send me an icq msg if you n' I'll show you the difference between Diesel Action and majorty of teen paysites.
                                                                        Last edited by Theo; 08-18-2005, 08:42 AM.

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