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  • spanky part 2
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1981
    #1

    No More TGP's

    What would happen if tgp's and free sites were outlawed today.

    My bet is we would all make a shitload more money.

    I get so sick of trying to sell shit, when there is so much free porn everywhere.

    It would be like trying to sell cars when every car dealer is giving out 10 day test drives.
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    • Dalai lama
      Strength and Honor
      • Jul 2004
      • 16540
      #2
      no more tgps. no more gallery makers, no more advertising money ( thehun/sleazydream ect and anyone else selling traffic/banner spots ), less design work for designers. less traffic ?

      Maybe less tgps.

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        • boneprone
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2001
          • 34415
          #3
          All the smart and big TGPers would still make your life rough, and you'd still be playing the victum as you do now, we would evolve into other aspects of the biz, and still be above you taking your money and making it hard on you as you seem to be expressing now..

          ITs not TGPs that are holding you back from making $$...

          Its you...

          Adapt and Evolve or be overtaken.

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          Learn about it kids.

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            • wjxxx
              So Fucking Banned
              • Feb 2005
              • 4448
              #4

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                • thaifan99
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3029
                  #5
                  Live with it or leave it.
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                    • TheMilkman
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 209
                      #6
                      Look after the customer and the buisness will take care of itself !

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                        • Spunky
                          I need a beer
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 133978
                          #7
                          Try the TGP2 style of galleries,and bombard the leeches with popups

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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021
                              #8
                              No tgps wouldnt effect me one way or another .Never had any luck with themlol

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                                • spanky part 2
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 1981
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by boneprone
                                  All the smart and big TGPers would still make your life rough, and you'd still be playing the victum as you do now, we would evolve into other aspects of the biz, and still be above you taking your money and making it hard on you as you seem to be expressing now..

                                  ITs not TGPs that are holding you back from making $$...

                                  Its you...

                                  Adapt and Evolve or be overtaken.
                                  I never said I wasn't making money. I'm doing very well, thank you for worrying tho.

                                  I'm just trying to point out how stupid it is to be giving more and more away. The movies are getting longer, and the galleries getting more hardcore.

                                  Go into any bakery and get a sample of the cake, you get one bite not the whole fucking cake and the pie next to it.

                                  I'm just trying to point out how fucking stupid it is to be giving so much shit away.

                                  Go ahead and slam me for saying what you all know to be true.
                                  Think about it from the tgp owners mind, and I am one.
                                  If the traffic was so fucking valuable, why would they be selling banners and spots. Wouldn't you keep it for yourself and make coin.

                                  It's all coming to an end, and no one sees it.

                                  Kisses

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                                    • fusionx
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 4618
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                      ... If the traffic was so fucking valuable, why would they be selling banners and spots. Wouldn't you keep it for yourself and make coin....
                                      No. Some people are good at converting galleries. Some people are good at selling spots. The market is not as simple as you seem to believe.

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                                        • MrVids
                                          i am a meat popsicle
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 1070
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by boneprone
                                          All the smart and big TGPers would still make your life rough, and you'd still be playing the victum as you do now, we would evolve into other aspects of the biz, and still be above you taking your money and making it hard on you as you seem to be expressing now..

                                          ITs not TGPs that are holding you back from making $$...

                                          Its you...

                                          Adapt and Evolve or be overtaken.
                                          spoken like a true ninja of "the industry"

                                          boneprone is now my favorite person for the day.

                                          spanky, your focus is too narrow. back in the day before TGP's there were less people making more money, now it's kill or be killed. If TGP's were outlawed, it would all go back to the newsgroups. If you think converting TGP traffic is hard, try converting newsgroups. You'll see your entire site free to download and not be able to do a single thing about it but sit there and wish there were a safer more effective way to market to the masses, that would pull them away from news groups.
                                          Last edited by MrVids; 08-16-2005, 07:05 PM.

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                                            • Freakster
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 833
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                              What would happen if tgp's and free sites were outlawed today.

                                              My bet is we would all make a shitload more money.

                                              I get so sick of trying to sell shit, when there is so much free porn everywhere.

                                              It would be like trying to sell cars when every car dealer is giving out 10 day test drives.
                                              yes, international outlaw, sure.
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                                                • fris
                                                  I have to go potty
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 55790
                                                  #13
                                                  its having an idea that sells.

                                                  traffic will come. brainstorm. lying in bed and you think of that idea.

                                                  mainstream traffic is much easier to come by, and worth more.
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                                                    • mardigras
                                                      Bon temps!
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 14194
                                                      #14
                                                      If TGPs and free sites suddenly disappeared tomorrow there would be an explosion of P2P software and people learning how to use usenet binary downloaders
                                                      .

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                                                        • spanky part 2
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 1981
                                                          #15
                                                          You guys are taking every thing way to literally.

                                                          Then again I am trying to talk biz at GFY.

                                                          My point is, that less is more. Less hardcore = more$$$

                                                          Getting rid of tgps is a ridiculous thing to say, and will never happen.

                                                          When are people gonna realize that free porn is like a loss leader in a store. They advertise some piece of shit that alot of people will want for less than cost, because they know that they will buy more shit when they are there.

                                                          Business 101 people. Upsell, tease but don't please.

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                                                            • whitey
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 125
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                              You guys are taking every thing way to literally.

                                                              Then again I am trying to talk biz at GFY.

                                                              My point is, that less is more. Less hardcore = more$$$

                                                              Getting rid of tgps is a ridiculous thing to say, and will never happen.

                                                              When are people gonna realize that free porn is like a loss leader in a store. They advertise some piece of shit that alot of people will want for less than cost, because they know that they will buy more shit when they are there.

                                                              Business 101 people. Upsell, tease but don't please.
                                                              People have been saying the same thing since 1997. It never changes.

                                                              Learn how to sell and you will make money.
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                                                                • AmateurFlix
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                  • 7762
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                  Business 101 people. Upsell, tease but don't please.
                                                                  Sssshhh....

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                                                                    • MrVids
                                                                      i am a meat popsicle
                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                      • 1070
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                      You guys are taking every thing way to literally.
                                                                      you got a point, people are acting like you named the thread "No more TGP's"

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                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 41470
                                                                          #19
                                                                          woulda coulda shoulda


                                                                          you'd whine that my tours gave away too much then - or that i had some other unfair advantage.

                                                                          fact is - you don't know how to sell.
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                                                                            • naitirps
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                              • 761
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MrVids
                                                                              ... If you think converting TGP traffic is hard, try converting newsgroups. You'll see your entire site free to download and not be able to do a single thing about it but sit there and wish there were a safer more effective way to market to the masses, that would pull them away from news groups.
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                                                                                • killerkay
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                  • 1482
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                  All the smart and big TGPers would still make your life rough, and you'd still be playing the victum as you do now, we would evolve into other aspects of the biz, and still be above you taking your money and making it hard on you as you seem to be expressing now..

                                                                                  ITs not TGPs that are holding you back from making $$...

                                                                                  Its you...

                                                                                  Adapt and Evolve or be overtaken.
                                                                                  good post... im with ya


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                                                                                    • wedouglas
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 5921
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      TGP traffic blows because it is exactly whats in the members area. You can find every set for any site for free by browsing TGPs. Why pay for what you can get for free?

                                                                                      I think this post is kind of off topic, but I think it should be said in any TGP related thread.

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                                                                                        • aleck
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 940
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                                          What would happen if tgp's and free sites were outlawed today.

                                                                                          My bet is we would all make a shitload more money.

                                                                                          I get so sick of trying to sell shit, when there is so much free porn everywhere.

                                                                                          It would be like trying to sell cars when every car dealer is giving out 10 day test drives.
                                                                                          what would happen if car dealers and test drives were outlawed today?
                                                                                          Last edited by aleck; 08-16-2005, 11:37 PM.
                                                                                          come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                                                            • Bike
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                              • 1363
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              There's no money in porn anymore, especially not in TGP traffic

                                                                                              It's funny to see how clueless some of you are If you only knew how much you can make with TGP's...

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                                                                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                  • 25463
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  TGPs are fine but their requirements really suck. Surfers are getting 3 MB movies now
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                                                                                                    • viking1
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                                                      • 493
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Bike
                                                                                                      There's no money in porn anymore, especially not in TGP traffic

                                                                                                      It's funny to see how clueless some of you are If you only knew how much you can make with TGP's...
                                                                                                      so true,so true

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                                                                                                        • aleck
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 940
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                                                          TGPs are fine but their requirements really suck. Surfers are getting 3 MB movies now
                                                                                                          guess what? ones who are on dialup still prefer pics and ones on broadband won't get enough from a 10 sec movie.
                                                                                                          come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                                                                            • assmunk
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                                              • 1101
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                              All the smart and big TGPers would still make your life rough, and you'd still be playing the victum as you do now, we would evolve into other aspects of the biz, and still be above you taking your money and making it hard on you as you seem to be expressing now..

                                                                                                              ITs not TGPs that are holding you back from making $$...

                                                                                                              Its you...

                                                                                                              Adapt and Evolve or be overtaken.
                                                                                                              What he said...

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                                                                                                                • spanky part 2
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                  • 1981
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Bike
                                                                                                                  There's no money in porn anymore, especially not in TGP traffic

                                                                                                                  It's funny to see how clueless some of you are If you only knew how much you can make with TGP's...

                                                                                                                  Yep, fucking clueless. You have absolutely no business acumen, if you can't understand what I am saying. Let me say it in GFY speak. "Would you hit it"

                                                                                                                  Like i said talking business on GFY with the high school dropouts, is sometimes funny.

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                                                                                                                    • David - PG
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                      • 767
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                                                                      Yep, fucking clueless. You have absolutely no business acumen, if you can't understand what I am saying. Let me say it in GFY speak. "Would you hit it"

                                                                                                                      Like i said talking business on GFY with the high school dropouts, is sometimes funny.
                                                                                                                      Let me ask one thing though.

                                                                                                                      Why can I download and listen to 100,000s of mp3 music samples on Amazon.com and they keep adding more and more, and in bumped up quality? Surely they're idiots, too.
                                                                                                                      Last edited by David - PG; 08-17-2005, 04:38 AM.
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                                                                                                                        • Furious_Female
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                          • 8187
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          In 2000 I made $50k that year from one set of softcore pics with an AVS (SexKey) and only got $10/sale. The same type of pics can be seen for free on any TGP a million times over. I adapt of course but it still brings a tear to my eye.
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                                                                                                                            • janosik
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                              • 755
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Agree .. good old times are definitely lost But you can still try SEO if you don't like TGPs. There are still newbie surfers who have no idea that there are some TGPs

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                                                                                                                                • Bake
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 5916
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Only dumb fucks and people who have never learnt to market tgp's aks this question,
                                                                                                                                  for me its extra money.
                                                                                                                                  Witch are you ? to dumb to market
                                                                                                                                  or dont know how?
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                                                                                                                                    • Bake
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 5916
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                                                                                      You guys are taking every thing way to literally.

                                                                                                                                      Then again I am trying to talk biz at GFY.

                                                                                                                                      My point is, that less is more. Less hardcore = more$$$

                                                                                                                                      Getting rid of tgps is a ridiculous thing to say, and will never happen.

                                                                                                                                      When are people gonna realize that free porn is like a loss leader in a store. They advertise some piece of shit that alot of people will want for less than cost, because they know that they will buy more shit when they are there.

                                                                                                                                      Business 101 people. Upsell, tease but don't please.
                                                                                                                                      They said this in 97 ,98 and still today the net is what it is, market it the way you want dont bitch just fucking do it If your clueless dont blaim the game move on. Ive had enought of whiny bitches complianing tgp is the devil well if tgp is the devil dont fucking play there.
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                                                                                                                                        • spanky part 2
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 1981
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Bake
                                                                                                                                          Only dumb fucks and people who have never learnt to market tgp's aks this question,
                                                                                                                                          for me its extra money.
                                                                                                                                          Witch are you ? to dumb to market
                                                                                                                                          or dont know how?
                                                                                                                                          Speaking of dumb fucks who never made it past middle school.

                                                                                                                                          Learnt- not a word unless you are from Mississippi and think that axe means asked. Try learned.

                                                                                                                                          Witch is for halloween - which is the word you are looking for.

                                                                                                                                          Maybe with your education and background, spell check might be a good option.

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                                                                                                                                            • AmateurFlix
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 7762
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              You know, alot of people in this thread seem to be of this "adapt and evolve" attitude but then viciously defend against any criticism of their current business model. Some of you guys posting in this thread have alot of traffic on your sites, but do you honestly think that any of you are using the ultimate business model for making use of TGP traffic? That there can be no better way of marketing than you are doing now? That you have no need to adapt or evolve to the fact that there's so much free hardcore available that only 1:25k to 1:50k vitiors to a gallery are likely to buy something?

                                                                                                                                              This business model is like that of a vendor who only sells one beverage at a football stadium filled with 50,000 people and decides to start selling at more stadiums to increase revenue instead of figuring out why they're not selling more where they're at.

                                                                                                                                              Sales on my TGP nearly quadrupled after removing the hardcore and making no other significant changes. My site still trades with sites that have tons of hardcore galleries. I just quit giving away what I'm trying to sell on my site. I post softcore instead of hardcore and the sales ratios improve. I give out less free pictures on a gallery and the sales ratios improve. Is it really that hard to understand why that is?

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                                                                                                                                                • rogerbo
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 193
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  the wohle discustion started the same when thumb TGP's did emerge, Oh tomuch giving away and we don't make anymore money. Learn how to Tweake your TGP and you'll make nice $$, and i don't want to know how many Paysites would have Problems to get the Surfers without the TGP's. In the old days 96,97 and so there where the Hun (TGP ) Persian Kitty and a few TGP's Link collections which where known. Today there are thousends of Sites which do help drive Surfers to paysites even new ones and small ones so many more Ppl. do make $$ today then 10 Years ago. So live with that and adopt your marketing to it and all is fine.
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                                                                                                                                                    • spanky part 2
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 1981
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AmateurFlix
                                                                                                                                                      You know, alot of people in this thread seem to be of this "adapt and evolve" attitude but then viciously defend against any criticism of their current business model. Some of you guys posting in this thread have alot of traffic on your sites, but do you honestly think that any of you are using the ultimate business model for making use of TGP traffic? That there can be no better way of marketing than you are doing now? That you have no need to adapt or evolve to the fact that there's so much free hardcore available that only 1:25k to 1:50k vitiors to a gallery are likely to buy something?

                                                                                                                                                      This business model is like that of a vendor who only sells one beverage at a football stadium filled with 50,000 people and decides to start selling at more stadiums to increase revenue instead of figuring out why they're not selling more where they're at.

                                                                                                                                                      Sales on my TGP nearly quadrupled after removing the hardcore and making no other significant changes. My site still trades with sites that have tons of hardcore galleries. I just quit giving away what I'm trying to sell on my site. I post softcore instead of hardcore and the sales ratios improve. I give out less free pictures on a gallery and the sales ratios improve. Is it really that hard to understand why that is?
                                                                                                                                                      Now this is a very smart person.

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