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  • Nickless
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1955
    #1

    No offense, what's so special about ragecash?

    I mean i don't get it, i couldn't find a single site i could promote, the niches appear to be very very small to try and target to an audience big enough to get a good amount of signups?

    Maybe that's their strong point, but the niches seem too artificial, dunno if there's even a potential market for those sites, and if it's worth it to send my traffic over there?

    I can understand the kajillon threads yesterday trying to get some signups for their $200/webmaster referral, but all of them failed to tell me WHY should i signup? please enlighten me
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    • StickyGreen
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      • Oct 2003
      • 13076
      #2
      it's converting...
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        • riddler
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2004
          • 3726
          #3
          its new so it will convert, nothing more special about it than the other programs out except its new.

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            • chase
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 6019
              #4
              I kinda think you are being a bit closed minded about the niches...it's curiosity for the general surfer...
              "Wow, I've always thought it would be hot to fuck a mom and daughter...I want to check this site out"
              or
              "Hey, I've watched my wife or gf sleeping and wondered if I could fuck her while she slept and what it would be like...I think I want to see this."
              or
              "Damn as much as I hate it when my girl teases me, I love it, too..the anticipation just kills me! I gotta see this!"
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                • Nickless
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1955
                  #5
                  Not everything that's new will convert, it has a small advantage over other sites being new i'll give you that, but besides that is the content exclusive or outstanding in any way, i'm speaking out of complete ignorance here since i haven't seen their members areas or promo content.

                  Again I'm not trying to bash ragecash in any way, actually i'm trying to see if i should promote them or not, and i'm not convinced yet.

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                    • riddler
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 3726
                      #6
                      Originally posted by chase
                      I kinda think you are being a bit closed minded about the niches...it's curiosity for the general surfer...
                      "Wow, I've always thought it would be hot to fuck a mom and daughter...I want to check this site out"
                      or
                      "Hey, I've watched my wife or gf sleeping and wondered if I could fuck her while she slept and what it would be like...I think I want to see this."
                      or
                      "Damn as much as I hate it when my girl teases me, I love it, too..the anticipation just kills me! I gotta see this!"
                      what do you mean? not sure i follow kinda out of context.

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                        • nekrom
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 921
                          #7
                          Some of the markets that their sites are catering towards, ie: sleepy niche.

                          Convert and retain that well you'd be an idiot to use them on pps. Often those markets are very loyal, and the surfs in those markets tend to stick together and let each other know about the sites.

                          -N
                          Free Traffic

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                            • sharpx9
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 2085
                              #8
                              Sign up and find out.


                              ahaha, I know obviously you've already checked it out. It was too tempting, though :D

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                                • riddler
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 3726
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by nekrom
                                  Some of the markets that their sites are catering towards, ie: sleepy niche.

                                  Convert and retain that well you'd be an idiot to use them on pps. Often those markets are very loyal, and the surfs in those markets tend to stick together and let each other know about the sites.

                                  -N
                                  I really dont see a sleep rape site retaining, I mean any person with common sense would think "wow how could you thrust your cock in her with out waking" only logical answer to that is ROOOFFFFIES FOR ALL :D

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                                    • SleazyDream
                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 41470
                                      #10
                                      they paid the advertising fee - that means they's PLAYERS dude

                                      don't you know the rules?
                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                        • Shooting_Manic
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 1740
                                          #11
                                          I agree... there really isnt any defined niches and the ones that are there are very narrow. Im sure they will convert, but whoever is sending traffic would need to have a very specific surfer.
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                                            • Nickless
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 1955
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by chase
                                              I kinda think you are being a bit closed minded about the niches...it's curiosity for the general surfer...
                                              "Wow, I've always thought it would be hot to fuck a mom and daughter...I want to check this site out"
                                              or
                                              "Hey, I've watched my wife or gf sleeping and wondered if I could fuck her while she slept and what it would be like...I think I want to see this."
                                              or
                                              "Damn as much as I hate it when my girl teases me, I love it, too..the anticipation just kills me! I gotta see this!"
                                              go figure, the 'general surfer' was my main concern, that the sites would be too specific for them, dunno if many will get that impression from the sites.

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                                                • riddler
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 3726
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                  they paid the advertising fee - that means they's PLAYERS dude

                                                  don't you know the rules?
                                                  hey man you cant say anything about whos players you dont know shit you got under 200 posts, be gone noobie pfffftt... now show me those big ol' man boobies :D

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                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 41470
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by riddler
                                                      hey man you cant say anything about whos players you dont know shit you got under 200 posts, be gone noobie pfffftt... now show me those big ol' man boobies :D

                                                      someday i'll post more and BE a someboday...........
                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                        • nekrom
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 921
                                                          #15
                                                          They retain because most times very small micro niche sites with good content are rare to find. Ie: sadism, edge play, preggo, etc etc. While ratios may be higher then other more mainstreme markets, the surfers are just about always loyal. With average rebills being 4-6+months, per surfer. In my findings anyway.

                                                          -N
                                                          Free Traffic

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                                                            • Nickless
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 1955
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                              they paid the advertising fee - that means they's PLAYERS dude

                                                              don't you know the rules?
                                                              yea, sorry my bad

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                                                                • riddler
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 3726
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                  someday i'll post more and BE a someboday...........
                                                                  its ok, we still love you, you big sack of jello fun

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                                                                    • Nickless
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 1955
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                                      I agree... there really isnt any defined niches and the ones that are there are very narrow. Im sure they will convert, but whoever is sending traffic would need to have a very specific surfer.
                                                                      exactly, narrow was the word, and only with very targetted traffic too.

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                                                                        • Nickless
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 1955
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by nekrom
                                                                          They retain because most times very small micro niche sites with good content are rare to find. Ie: sadism, edge play, preggo, etc etc. While ratios may be higher then other more mainstreme markets, the surfers are just about always loyal. With average rebills being 4-6+months, per surfer. In my findings anyway.

                                                                          -N
                                                                          Well retention is not an issue here, since it's a pps program, i mean if you have a very very hot single girl site you will get insane and im talking about more than a year long retentions (as i had as an affiliate with tawnee stone and tiffany teen fanatics for example) AND a broad audience on top of that, so you can sell a lot and retain at the same time, these micro niches will sell a little, on very specific traffic and retain something, so i still don't know what's the big fuss about besides the $200 wm referrall

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                                                                            • The Ghost
                                                                              IslandDollars.com
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 12188
                                                                              #20
                                                                              They seem to be putting alot of effort into branding their program.
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                                                                                • Why
                                                                                  MFBA
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 7230
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  i dont get the hype either.

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                                                                                    • Shooting_Manic
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                      • 1740
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      [IMG]same time, these micro niches will sell a little, on very specific traffic and retain something, so i still don't know what's the big fuss about besides the $200 wm referrall [/IMG]

                                                                                      teenrevenue had the 200.00 wm referral also, but I never got paid, even though it said I had 6 ref.

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                                                                                        • Nickless
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 1955
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                                                          [IMG]same time, these micro niches will sell a little, on very specific traffic and retain something, so i still don't know what's the big fuss about besides the $200 wm referrall [/IMG]

                                                                                          teenrevenue had the 200.00 wm referral also, but I never got paid, even though it said I had 6 ref.

                                                                                          because your referred webmasters' sales had to rebill for you to get credit
                                                                                          Last edited by Nickless; 08-15-2005, 11:26 PM.

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                                                                                            • bdld
                                                                                              $100,000
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 11452
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              i've tried real hard to see if i could promote this sponsor, but none of the sites really do it for me. they have very little in what i look for in a sponsor. i could care less about what people are saying, at the very least all the hype got me to take a deeper look at the program.

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                                                                                                • chase
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                  • 6019
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by riddler
                                                                                                  what do you mean? not sure i follow kinda out of context.
                                                                                                  I guess I'm just giving you an example of what a surfer may think when he sees a type of site he hasn't seen before, or possibly even thought he would want to see....but then he sees it, and thinks, "huh, I gotta check that out".
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                                                                                                    • will76
                                                                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 18037
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by chase
                                                                                                      I kinda think you are being a bit closed minded about the niches...it's curiosity for the general surfer...
                                                                                                      "Wow, I've always thought it would be hot to fuck a mom and daughter...I want to check this site out"
                                                                                                      or
                                                                                                      "Hey, I've watched my wife or gf sleeping and wondered if I could fuck her while she slept and what it would be like...I think I want to see this."
                                                                                                      or
                                                                                                      "Damn as much as I hate it when my girl teases me, I love it, too..the anticipation just kills me! I gotta see this!"
                                                                                                      LOL i have actually done 2 of the 3 you listed... I just wont say which 2
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                                                                                                        • Nickless
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                          • 1955
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by chase
                                                                                                          I guess I'm just giving you an example of what a surfer may think when he sees a type of site he hasn't seen before, or possibly even thought he would want to see....but then he sees it, and thinks, "huh, I gotta check that out".
                                                                                                          I don't know you, but i want to get as many signups as possible with my traffic, and that alone doesn't cut it, if you have amazing content (perfectgonzo) or a groundbreaking concept (bangbus/bros) or an extremely hot model (many out there) then it should work but i don't think i'm going to go and buy a 1k+ tgp spot to promote cock teasing...

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                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Hmmmmm. Maybe they should call it Rape Cash?

                                                                                                              We get enough shit from people finding ANY excuse to shut us down and throw us in jail and you come up with this crap?

                                                                                                              Sleep Assault

                                                                                                              Yeah ASSAULT( oh you mean rape? ) and SLEEP( as in she's sleeping as you rape her ) Nice concept, what next Corpse Assault? How about Toddler Naptime Assault?

                                                                                                              Sleep Assault is like nothing else on the web, combining that "Reality Feel" along with a concept that has been touched yet.

                                                                                                              Yeah because nothing is worse than watching similated rape when it's OBVIOUS she's not being raped. Man I hate that!

                                                                                                              There's plenty of customers out there (male & female alike), the male customers have certainly fantasized about having sex with a girl while she was out like a light,

                                                                                                              Yeah FANTASIZE because actually doing it requires GHB and will get you 15 years in prison.

                                                                                                              meanwhile female customers have certainly fantasized about someone sneaking into their room and giving them special attention.

                                                                                                              Yes I have met many a woman that has told me "I wish some guy would have sex with me against my will while I sleep"

                                                                                                              With those fantasies in mind Rage Cash explores a fetish that is untouched by anyone in the market which means large profit opportunities regardless if you promote Sleep Assault as a Fetish site or a Hardcore site.

                                                                                                              Hey some people fanatsize about sex with goats. Going to have a site about those too? I believe http://goatassault.com is still available.

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                                                                                                                • nekrom
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                  • 921
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                                                                  Well retention is not an issue here, since it's a pps program, i mean....(sic)
                                                                                                                  My understanding was it's both pps and revshare?, well according to the site it is. But yes I agree with what your saying though. GI will be a bit tricker to sell to, but with niche specific traffic, some people will be laughing all the way to the bank.

                                                                                                                  -N
                                                                                                                  Free Traffic

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                                                                                                                    • chase
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                      • 6019
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                                                                      I don't know you, but i want to get as many signups as possible with my traffic, and that alone doesn't cut it, if you have amazing content (perfectgonzo) or a groundbreaking concept (bangbus/bros) or an extremely hot model (many out there) then it should work but i don't think i'm going to go and buy a 1k+ tgp spot to promote cock teasing...
                                                                                                                      Well, it's your biz, and your perogative, babe. I would think a fresh concept would be worth a risk more than the same old tired shit. But I'm a risk-taker. *grin* To each his (or her, in my case) own.
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                                                                                                                        • Nickless
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 1955
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by nekrom
                                                                                                                          My understanding was it's both pps and revshare?, well according to the site it is. But yes I agree with what your saying though. GI will be a bit tricker to sell to, but with niche specific traffic, some people will be laughing all the way to the bank.

                                                                                                                          -N
                                                                                                                          65% revshare, right there on their frontpage, sorry

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                                                                                                                            • Nickless
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                              • 1955
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chase
                                                                                                                              Well, it's your biz, and your perogative, babe. I would think a fresh concept would be worth a risk more than the same old tired shit. But I'm a risk-taker. *grin* To each his (or her, in my case) own.
                                                                                                                              Well i applaud that attitude and i'm all for taking risks (as everyone in this industry) but it's like too much, deciding switching sponsors on niches that you know work for your traffic is ok as a risk (a teen sponsor for another)

                                                                                                                              But these niches seem so closed, almost as promoting a 'baloon niche' site, dunno if my traffic would buy it, if you know your traffic would then why not.

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                                                                                                                                • chase
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 6019
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                                                                                  Well i applaud that attitude and i'm all for taking risks (as everyone in this industry) but it's like too much, deciding switching sponsors on niches that you know work for your traffic is ok as a risk (a teen sponsor for another)

                                                                                                                                  But these niches seem so closed, almost as promoting a 'baloon niche' site, dunno if my traffic would buy it, if you know your traffic would then why not.
                                                                                                                                  I can appreciate what you are saying. I don't have much to lose at this point, so I'm willing to take a giant leap. I know those of you with established traffic may not feel the same.

                                                                                                                                  Another factor for me is that my main site is a directory/portal/blog thing, and my "host" character can approach it like: hey, check out these crazy sites I found!
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                                                                                                                                    • candyflip
                                                                                                                                      Carpe Visio
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 43075
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      That mother/daughter site is hot. I've been watching the whole series tonight.

                                                                                                                                      I haven't joined a new site in a while. Grabbed a couple of domains and put some gallery and freesite templates on my list of things to do tomorrow.

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                                                                                                                                        • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                                                          ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 20306
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Well, the sites are 'new' and if Ox or ND would have come out with a 'mother daughter' or 'sleep rape' site you all would be drooling over it..

                                                                                                                                          I can see their sites doing well. Classy designs, unique content, if they now get some mailers hot and mailing for them, they're set.
                                                                                                                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                                                            • Rui
                                                                                                                                              web
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 9533
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I personaly wouldn't touch their "fantasy" rape and incest sites but regarding the rest they have some nice stuff....

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                                                                                                                                                • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                                                                  ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 20306
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                                                                                                  But these niches seem so closed, almost as promoting a 'baloon niche' site, dunno if my traffic would buy it, if you know your traffic would then why not.
                                                                                                                                                  No they're not.
                                                                                                                                                  They're not REALLY micro-niche sites, I'm sure they'll work for 'general' porn population too. Regular looking chicks, no really 'weird' things (except for the foot site), and almost plain vanilla fucking after you take the 'extra' spice off it.

                                                                                                                                                  OUR sites are niche sites that do NOT work with general traffic.
                                                                                                                                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Nickless
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 1955
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                                                                                                      No they're not.
                                                                                                                                                      They're not REALLY micro-niche sites, I'm sure they'll work for 'general' porn population too. Regular looking chicks, no really 'weird' things (except for the foot site), and almost plain vanilla fucking after you take the 'extra' spice off it.

                                                                                                                                                      OUR sites are niche sites that do NOT work with general traffic.
                                                                                                                                                      I'll take your word for it just because of the finnish demoscene, if you guys can pull that stuff then microniches is child's play

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                                                                                                                                                        • Oracle Porn
                                                                                                                                                          Affiliate
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 24433
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chase
                                                                                                                                                          I kinda think you are being a bit closed minded about the niches...it's curiosity for the general surfer...
                                                                                                                                                          "Wow, I've always thought it would be hot to fuck a mom and daughter...I want to check this site out"
                                                                                                                                                          or
                                                                                                                                                          "Hey, I've watched my wife or gf sleeping and wondered if I could fuck her while she slept and what it would be like...I think I want to see this."
                                                                                                                                                          or
                                                                                                                                                          "Damn as much as I hate it when my girl teases me, I love it, too..the anticipation just kills me! I gotta see this!"
                                                                                                                                                          wtf?

                                                                                                                                                          5678


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