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  • ChefJeff
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    • Apr 2003
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    #1

    Do non-nude models have to be 18?

    I've never shot non-nude models before.

    Do they have to be 18?

    Like NextDoorNikki.com The whole Phil-Flash.com group of girls etc... as an example.
  • Makingcoin
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    • JuiceMonkey
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      #3
      no they don't have to be..
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      • riddler
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        • Oct 2004
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        #4
        id say thats a gray fucking area of the law.. if your selling a site with underage girls dressed it would be risky..

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        • spunkmaster
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          • Jan 2004
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          #5
          Legally no but it's against Visa rules to process for them !

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          • riddler
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            #6
            kinda scares me to see someone even asking this too.. why the fuck would you want to dabble in technically child porn?

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            • Lace
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              • ChefJeff
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                #8
                I'm not dabbling in child porn. I just didn't know what the legalities of non-nude sites were. That's why I'm asking, I don't know...

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                • Mutt
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                  • Sep 2002
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                  #9
                  that's the history and roots of the NN niche - underage models nearly naked.
                  it's wrong - if there's a hot little 15 year old out there and she wants to tease guys on her webcam or ratemybody that's cool - when an adult turns her into a business that's wrong.

                  a photographer contact I have has a phenomenal 17 year old who's three months away from 18 and likely to model either nude or NN - she's phenomenal - i told him thanks but no thanks, to have her contact me in 3 months. it seems silly - what does three months mean really - but society draws a line and 18 is a pretty good one for work of an 'adult nature'.
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                  • ChefJeff
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                    • Apr 2003
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                    #10
                    I agree.

                    Since I have never shot non-nudes, I just wasn't sure.

                    You guys will be lining up for exclusives when this little hotty turns 18...

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                    • Mutt
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                      • Sep 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ChefJeff
                      I'm not dabbling in child porn. I just didn't know what the legalities of non-nude sites were. That's why I'm asking, I don't know...
                      there is nothing illegal about a non-nude site featuring a minor. go look at OMP and you'll see lots of 15 year olds in teeny bikinis, suggestive posing etc. there's not even anything illegal about a nude site featuring a minor - if it's 'artistic'.
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                      • NaughtyRob
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mutt
                        that's the history and roots of the NN niche - underage models nearly naked.
                        it's wrong - if there's a hot little 15 year old out there and she wants to tease guys on her webcam or ratemybody that's cool - when an adult turns her into a business that's wrong.

                        a photographer contact I have has a phenomenal 17 year old who's three months away from 18 and likely to model either nude or NN - she's phenomenal - i told him thanks but no thanks, to have her contact me in 3 months. it seems silly - what does three months mean really - but society draws a line and 18 is a pretty good one for work of an 'adult nature'.
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                        • fatal attraction
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mutt
                          there is nothing illegal about a non-nude site featuring a minor. go look at OMP and you'll see lots of 15 year olds in teeny bikinis, suggestive posing etc. there's not even anything illegal about a nude site featuring a minor - if it's 'artistic'.

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                          • Makingcoin
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                            #14
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                            • ChefJeff
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                              #15
                              Thanks for the input everyone...

                              I will just sit on this one until she's 18, just a few months away.

                              How is the market for non-nudes anyway?

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                              • Makingcoin
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by ChefJeff
                                Thanks for the input everyone...

                                I will just sit on this one until she's 18, just a few months away.

                                How is the market for non-nudes anyway?
                                Great idea bro!

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                                • fitzmulti
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ChefJeff
                                  I've never shot non-nude models before.

                                  Do they have to be 18?

                                  Like NextDoorNikki.com The whole Phil-Flash.com group of girls etc... as an example.
                                  They can be 19, 20, 21...
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                                  • sickbeatz
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                                    #18
                                    Build eleventeen.com ... shoot little eleven year old girls in bikinis and posing and all that stuff in really skimpy clothing.. Call it like: "I'm a teenager, really. I am!"

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                                    • detoxed
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChefJeff
                                      I've never shot non-nude models before.

                                      Do they have to be 18?

                                      Like NextDoorNikki.com The whole Phil-Flash.com group of girls etc... as an example.

                                      Yeah who cares if they are 18

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                                      • FelixFlow
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ChefJeff

                                        How is the market for non-nudes anyway?


                                        there is no money in non-nude




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                                        • 3piece chicken Dinner
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                                          #21
                                          Isn't this how the downward spiral of the other "jeff" started???




                                          I hope this one turns out better.
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                                          • 3piece chicken Dinner
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                                            #22
                                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=87169

                                            A walk down memory lane from the last time this subject was brought up.
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                                            • thonglife
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=87169

                                              A walk down memory lane from the last time this subject was brought up.
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                                              • Dirty F
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                                                • Jul 2001
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                                                #24
                                                I personally dont shoot -18 but here in Holland i dont see anything wrong with shooting a 17 yr old really. Wait, there is nothing with it

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                                                • LittleMack
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
                                                  Isn't this how the downward spiral of the other "jeff" started???




                                                  I hope this one turns out better.
                                                  I agree with you on that one. Good read also on that thread you posted.
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                                                  • ChefJeff
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                                                    #26
                                                    Well then that answers my question.

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                                                    • DutchTeenCash
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                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      If youre serious in this biz 18+ is the standard. PF Felix a lotta others (and DTC too) think like that.

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                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by thinkx
                                                        If youre serious in this biz 18+ is the standard. PF Felix a lotta others (and DTC too) think like that.
                                                        No, thats the American standard. And America doesnt owe the interwebs.

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                                                        • Jimmy Lifestyles
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                                                          #29
                                                          You're even more of a douche for having to ask this question bro. If you dont have the common sense to answer this with your own personal beliefs of whats "right" and "wrong", then you have no business in this business. Go back to shining Kinzie's shoes and cowaring in her shadow, you do that a whole lot better than anything else i've seen. Just reserve your posts for more pics of Kinzie's ass and you'll be fine.
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                                                          • DutchTeenCash
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                                                            • Feb 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Franck
                                                            No, thats the American standard. And America doesnt owe the interwebs.
                                                            They dont true. apart from the fact 18+ is morally better imho... over 80% of the affiliates we have are US based, the host is US basend and the processor is US based, Id like to stick to 18+

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                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by thinkx
                                                              They dont true. apart from the fact 18+ is morally better imho... over 80% of the affiliates we have are US based, the host is US basend and the processor is US based, Id like to stick to 18+

                                                              (I meant own, not owe ofcourse)


                                                              Sticking to 18+ because you want more affiliates is a totally different story.

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                                                              • stev0
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                                                                #32
                                                                would depend what else is featured on the site...

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                                                                • StuartD
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Remember this girl? http://www.christina-model.com/home.html

                                                                  Her site was up years before she was 18... infact, they even had pictures of her graduation on the site.

                                                                  They always had shots of her (and the other girls) in see through tops and things.. but they still had clothes on.
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                                                                  • spanky part 2
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ChefJeff
                                                                    I've never shot non-nude models before.

                                                                    Do they have to be 18?

                                                                    Like NextDoorNikki.com The whole Phil-Flash.com group of girls etc... as an example.
                                                                    The next sentence should be

                                                                    "your honor"

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                                                                    • ChefJeff
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Everybody just calm the fuck down.

                                                                      A thread like this is actually very cool because it shows to some extent, the level of maturity of posters on this board.

                                                                      All I asked was a question about non-nude models and if they have to be 18.

                                                                      I was hoping for some answers from respectable and knowledgeable webmasters with some experience.

                                                                      So just calm the fuck down...

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                                                                      • ChefJeff
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Jimmy Lifestyles
                                                                        You're even more of a douche for having to ask this question bro. If you dont have the common sense to answer this with your own personal beliefs of whats "right" and "wrong", then you have no business in this business. Go back to shining Kinzie's shoes and cowaring in her shadow, you do that a whole lot better than anything else i've seen. Just reserve your posts for more pics of Kinzie's ass and you'll be fine.

                                                                        What your suffering from is called displacement.

                                                                        Look it up.

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                                                                        • Makingcoin
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I think this pic is appropriate.


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                                                                          • ChefJeff
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I don't hate you man, by the way. JL

                                                                            I honestly think you need help. I really think so.

                                                                            I've never done anything to you, but you are clearly either envious or jealous or whatever it is man. Grow up a little.

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                                                                            • MandyBlake
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              if you're even THINKING of shooting anyone under 18....DONT!
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                                                                              • ChefJeff
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                                                if you're even THINKING of shooting anyone under 18....DONT!
                                                                                I'm not going to. I never even hinted at that. I only asked a question about non-nudes.

                                                                                The question was, do they have to be 18 for non-nude. The answer is a resounding yes.

                                                                                Thanks everyone for your input. Let's put this one to rest.

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                                                                                • nudecanada
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  CheffJeff's true colors come out. Freak.

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                                                                                  • NoCarrier
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                    there is nothing illegal about a non-nude site featuring a minor. go look at OMP and you'll see lots of 15 year olds in teeny bikinis, suggestive posing etc. there's not even anything illegal about a nude site featuring a minor - if it's 'artistic'.
                                                                                    "artistic" my ass.. Who do you think is going to sign up to those "artistic" underage non-nude websites? Art people? Give me a fucking break.

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                                                                                    • ChefJeff
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      This is so over.

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                                                                                      • ChefJeff
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        But then again, I don't mind my sig being seen over and over...

                                                                                        Come promote Kinzie!

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                                                                                        • chaze
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Can 5 year olds where a g-string on film?

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                                                                                          • Spankys Teens
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            dude...Even if it was legally possible i really wanna ask you if there aint enough 18+ models in the market?
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                                                                                            • VeriSexy
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by riddler
                                                                                              kinda scares me to see someone even asking this too.. why the fuck would you want to dabble in technically child porn?

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                                                                                              • xNetworx
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                do not shoot anybody under 18 for an adult type site

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                                                                                                • Frank The Tank
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  id say yes its child related
                                                                                                  if you want to do it you would need legal releases from the girls parents to do shoots of them and fully clothed girls wont sell - its all about the tease with non nude - how many parents are going to say sure take some nice close up crotch shots of my little babey !
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                                                                                                    #50
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