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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754
    #1

    Hey Fletch, Need Math Lessons?

    Here's what you've asked for:

    $500 for the tour (http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv)
    $500 for the banners (really fucking overpriced, but oh well)
    $350 for the galleries.

    That equals $1,350 using basic math skills.

    I've paid you:

    $500 at the beginning of the project and you've been paid $582.36 so far in checks since. That leaves $267.64.

    How do you come up with being owed $500.00 ?
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    • TDF
      Triple OG nigga on GFY
      • Mar 2002
      • 27296
      #2
      you need more makeup
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        • Donny
          As you wish...
          • May 2002
          • 13754
          #3
          Originally posted by TDF
          you need more makeup
          Is that all it takes to get into your pants? Damn, dude... AGREED! I'll go hit up my local Mary Kay rep right now!

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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157
              #4
              DonovanPhillips needs a bigger shovel so he can dig his grave faster.

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                • Donny
                  As you wish...
                  • May 2002
                  • 13754
                  #5
                  By the way Fletch, solid numbers is what I was looking for earlier before you blew up and became a drama whore on GFY. Now you've posted the numbers you want out of the project. And simple math shows what you are owed. What's the problem?

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                    • chadglni
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6924
                      #6
                      You put on a good spin. Here's some math for you.

                      $500 for the tour (http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv)
                      $500 for the banners (really fucking overpriced, but oh well) <--Your words.
                      $350 for the galleries.
                      $232.36 to end partnership agreement. (Ridiculously cheap, but oh well)

                      That equals $1,582.36 using basic math skills.

                      You've paid Fletch:

                      $500 at the beginning of the project and $582.36 so far in checks since. That leaves $500.00. (A bargain considering.)


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                        • pussyluver
                          Clueless OleMan
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 11009
                          #7
                          Sorry Donny and Fletch, I couldn't read the all of the six pages so far in your other thread. Was giving me a headache.

                          What did occur to me is I should have grabbed a sig spot early on. You guys are making up for the Choker/Burger Boy make up.

                          Seems like there good be big money in paid mediation in the adult biz.

                          Argue on!

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                            • MrIzzz
                              If u touch it, I will cum
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 22923
                              #8
                              i dont like popcorn


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                                • Donny
                                  As you wish...
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 13754
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                  You put on a good spin. Here's some math for you.

                                  $500 for the tour (http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv)
                                  $500 for the banners (really fucking overpriced, but oh well) <--Your words.
                                  $350 for the galleries.
                                  $232.36 to end partnership agreement. (Ridiculously cheap, but oh well)

                                  That equals $1,582.36 using basic math skills.

                                  You've paid Fletch:

                                  $500 at the beginning of the project and $582.36 so far in checks since. That leaves $500.00. (A bargain considering.)

                                  Where are you getting your $232.36 ? Out your ass is where. Nice even number to get to the $500 figure. Kindly fuck off.

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                                    • wallst
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 1621
                                      #10
                                      note to self: never hire a drama queen designer.
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                                        • datatank
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 5471
                                          #11
                                          Dam I have to post here now

                                          Are you seriously saying that this tour has only GROSSED ABOUT $1400 in a year?


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                                            • Chris
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 27880
                                              #12
                                              why not just pay him the other 300 bux ?
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                                                • chadglni
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 6924
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                  Where are you getting your $232.36 ? Out your ass is where. Nice even number to get to the $500 figure. Kindly fuck off.
                                                  Fletch wanted $500 to end it. Obviously you would be getting out of the partnership for $232.36 more. Would you rather he let the courts charge you $xx,xxx.xx later?

                                                  I'll leave you're thread and your drama alone but I must say you are the one that looks like a jackass in all of this. The same way you did the last time this came up and all of the crap with your partner stealing his designs to which you paid him an insignificant amount to shut up about. I hate talking on message boards because I can't tell if you're really this dumb, broke and making excuses, or just an asshole in general. Either way you look bad to me and I'm sure quite a few others. Take from that what you will.


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                                                    • High Quality
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                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 5741
                                                      #14
                                                      Can't we all just get along?

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                                                        • Donny
                                                          As you wish...
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 13754
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by datatank
                                                          Dam I have to post here now

                                                          Are you seriously saying that this tour has only GROSSED ABOUT $1400 in a year?


                                                          That is a screen cap directly from CCBill admin.

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                                                            • datatank
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 5471
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                              That is a screen cap directly from CCBill admin.

                                                              Im not doubting that it is real. Im just shocked how little it made. I have see this tour posted all over gfy. I would have thought even the signups from here would make that in a few months.



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                                                                • Donny
                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 13754
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                                                  Fletch wanted $500 to end it. Obviously you would be getting out of the partnership for $232.36 more. Would you rather he let the courts charge you $xx,xxx.xx later?

                                                                  I'll leave you're thread and your drama alone but I must say you are the one that looks like a jackass in all of this. The same way you did the last time this came up and all of the crap with your partner stealing his designs to which you paid him an insignificant amount to shut up about. I hate talking on message boards because I can't tell if you're really this dumb, broke and making excuses, or just an asshole in general. Either way you look bad to me and I'm sure quite a few others. Take from that what you will.

                                                                  Shut up idiot. The numbers came from Fletch himself. Somehow he conveniently wanted to forget the $582.36 he was already paid in addition to the $500 I gave him to begin with. Notice he hasn't responded since?

                                                                  As for courts... I'll just counterfile for breech of contract since he didn't do what he agreed to do when agreement began.

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                                                                    • Donny
                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 13754
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by datatank
                                                                      Im not doubting that it is real. Im just shocked how little it made. I have see this tour posted all over gfy. I would have thought even the signups from here would make that in a few months.


                                                                      That particular tour wasn't posted all over GFY. It was posted a few times, long ago. This all started in late jan/early feb 2004.

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                                                                        • chadglni
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 6924
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                          Shut up idiot. The numbers came from Fletch himself. Somehow he conveniently wanted to forget the $582.36 he was already paid in addition to the $500 I gave him to begin with. Notice he hasn't responded since?

                                                                          As for courts... I'll just counterfile for breech of contract since he didn't do what he agreed to do when agreement began.
                                                                          Being dropped from the 50% wasn't included was it? As for your courts comment, that just shows how clueless you are. Lets say you won, Fletch would owe you whatever you've paid him up to date and a few small fees. You on the other hand would owe him $500 to $20,000 per instance of using his copyrighted materials. He could also sue any affiliates using them.


                                                                          You my friend are the idiot.


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                                                                            • BoogieCFZ
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 341
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I generally am staying out of this as it doesnt entirely concern me. I was hired to do a job, i asked about my paramaters and I stayed within those parameters.

                                                                              Here is what I will say though.

                                                                              I dont know Fletch. I do know donny.

                                                                              IN the time I've worked with him he's been pretty much upright on everything he's done and talked about having done. I cannot fathom sitting here and reading the other drama threads on this topic fast enough to keep up though I am desperately trying to.

                                                                              If donny was as fair and upfront to fletch as he was to me then I dont have a clue where things fell apart. I"m pretty sure he was that upfront and fair.

                                                                              In designing some things for the blog I presumed that if I ever walked away from the project all my creatives were going to become property of Donnys Money. Why wouldnt it? I cannot fathom why when I was ready to walk away I could take everything I put into the business with me. That's just not how it fucking works. It doesnt work that way in the 'real world' and I cannot imagine why it does in the adult world either.

                                                                              As for the simple math of it, fletch seems to be grabbing every dime he can. I dont know much about fletch and probably never will but it would be sad if that's the case. especially for such a small sum.

                                                                              Either way I think his tour was decent. I think the one we've worked on together is also decent. I can see why his stopped converting, it doesnt seem to have been udpated for a long time. The entire point of a dynamic tour is that it changes and remains dynamic, isnt it?

                                                                              Just my 2 cents.

                                                                              Fletch has asked that donny remove his creatives and stop using it and I cannot say that donny should or shouldnt do this. But I will say that if that is the choice he makes I will eagerly step up to plate and help him resolve that decision, and quickly replace the creatives. I'll also be glad to fill the hole left by removing these galleries by designing more of my own for our partnership. I was hired to do a job and I'll follow it through as instructed.

                                                                              Until then its in donny's lap.
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                                                                                • datatank
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 5471
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                  That particular tour wasn't posted all over GFY. It was posted a few times, long ago. This all started in late jan/early feb 2004.


                                                                                  OK well all I mean is I have seen the tour before. I must have seen it linked from somewhere. I like the tour I am just in shock at why I guess no one sent traffic and how little revenue it generated.

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                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by datatank
                                                                                      OK well all I mean is I have seen the tour before. I must have seen it linked from somewhere. I like the tour I am just in shock at why I guess no one sent traffic and how little revenue it generated.
                                                                                      Nobody sends traffic if there are no new materials for them. Affiliates had an initial list of galleries to use to send traffic to. Once those were exhausted and there were no new galleries for them to promote they simply let it die. Nobody sends traffic to the same galleries over and over again.

                                                                                      All Fletch had to do was pick out new photos once a month and plug them into his existing templates. For this he was given a 50/50 share in the tour.

                                                                                      Did he do that simple task? Nope, not once. He shot his wad with the initial roll out and didn't follow through. I didn't ride his ass about it.

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                                                                                        • Deej
                                                                                          I make pixels work
                                                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                                                          • 24386
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          See Chad.....arent we seeing it all here....cant we all just go have shots and laugh? I mean unless Donny is outright Lying....wich Fletch has never said.....then where is the problem, and especially the hate man....

                                                                                          Fletch has money from an agreement that wasnt fullfileld, by fletch.....then donnie didnt pay the AGREED amount.....yet fletch still got kickback......

                                                                                          both got fucked, both go away with something.....

                                                                                          who is it that wants more money?

                                                                                          shit fletch, we'll all buy you a drink buddy/.....(kidding im sure your fine)

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                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Fletch even mentioned being too busy with his new board to make new promo materials at one time if I remember correctly. I still left him as 50/50 on that account.

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                                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 13754
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Here is what he said he wanted:

                                                                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=212

                                                                                                  Then I wrote this:

                                                                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...26&postcount=1

                                                                                                  Nothing further has been said by him since that new thread was started because he realizes I'm completely complying with what he wants. In fact, I agree to pay the $350 that he said he'd "give" me because that would put him in the hole (he doesn't seem to good with math).

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                                                                                                    • wjxxx
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 4448
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                      Here's what you've asked for:

                                                                                                      $500 for the tour (http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv)
                                                                                                      You said " I'd still pay him 50% of all sales in addition to this $500 payment"

                                                                                                      http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=7946083&postcount=73

                                                                                                      you payed him 500$ for the tour and $582.36 - 50% of sales

                                                                                                      still have to pay

                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                      $500 for the banners (really fucking overpriced, but oh well)
                                                                                                      $350 for the galleries.
                                                                                                      simple as that

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                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by wjxxx
                                                                                                          You said " I'd still pay him 50% of all sales in addition to this $500 payment"

                                                                                                          http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=7946083&postcount=73

                                                                                                          you payed him 500$ for the tour and $582.36 - 50% of sales

                                                                                                          still have to pay


                                                                                                          simple as that

                                                                                                          The 50% was for fresh updated hosted galleries. He has not done one single update.

                                                                                                          Simple as that.

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                                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 20295
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Hmmm...all fell apart again huh?
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                                                                                                                • wjxxx
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 4448
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                  The 50% was for fresh updated hosted galleries. He has not done one single update.

                                                                                                                  Simple as that.
                                                                                                                  Then why you payed him the 50% ? If updating was part of your agreement

                                                                                                                  then you just shouldn`t pay him this cut.

                                                                                                                  But you still don`t have any rights to use his banners to promote other sites.

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                                                                                                                    • jennym
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                      • 1622
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                      The 50% was for fresh updated hosted galleries. He has not done one single update.

                                                                                                                      Simple as that.
                                                                                                                      Did you lock him out of the site, therefore making him unable to perform the updates? I believe you said you did.

                                                                                                                      As someone who has NOTHING to gain or lose in any of this....as someone who does not know either of you personally, my opinion is you are dead wrong on this one. The only reason that may matter to you is the fact that I WAS a possible future affiliate. Notice I said WAS? I am sure many other people feel the same way, but have said nothing. Good luck, seems you'll need it.

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                                                                                                                        • LiveDose
                                                                                                                          Show Yer Tits!
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                          • 25792
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          In the real world this would have been resolved already over beers. This whole thing does bring back nice high school memories though...

                                                                                                                          Sort this shit out you two. We're talking about $500 not $500,000. Fuckin' A!

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                                                                                                                            • chadglni
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 6924
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Deej
                                                                                                                              See Chad.....arent we seeing it all here....cant we all just go have shots and laugh? I mean unless Donny is outright Lying....wich Fletch has never said.....then where is the problem, and especially the hate man....

                                                                                                                              Fletch has money from an agreement that wasnt fullfileld, by fletch.....then donnie didnt pay the AGREED amount.....yet fletch still got kickback......

                                                                                                                              both got fucked, both go away with something.....

                                                                                                                              who is it that wants more money?

                                                                                                                              shit fletch, we'll all buy you a drink buddy/.....(kidding im sure your fine)
                                                                                                                              I don't hate you, and didn't mean for you to take offense to my comments in the other thread. I talk to everyone like this, friends included.


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                                                                                                                                • Deej
                                                                                                                                  I make pixels work
                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 24386
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Awesome.....no offense taken.....just think....I was about to tell you that my big sister can beat up your dad :P er somethin/...



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                                                                                                                                    • dirtydesignz
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 1815
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                                      Shut up idiot. The numbers came from Fletch himself. Somehow he conveniently wanted to forget the $582.36 he was already paid in addition to the $500 I gave him to begin with. Notice he hasn't responded since?

                                                                                                                                      As for courts... I'll just counterfile for breech of contract since he didn't do what he agreed to do when agreement began.
                                                                                                                                      Do you have this original contract that says exactly what the $500 was for and what you would be getting for the 50/50 partnership? If you don't then it's just your word versus his, and to be honest, it's not looking too good for you. And the fact that you are using his banners for your other projects and not sending to the original tour you both agreed upon, shows that you breeched the original contract, if indeed there is a contract.

                                                                                                                                      Fletch does good work and while alot of people don't understand the design business, it takes alot of time and creative ability to keep coming up with something that is unique and fresh. When he originally designed the site for you, it was uniqe and fresh and converted. Don't downplay the fact that he is a good designer, after all, you are still using the banners he designed.
                                                                                                                                      LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                                        • fuzzypeach
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                                                                          • 392
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          This is coming from an impartial 3rd party

                                                                                                                                          Since Donovan, in his own words, has repeatedly stated that he has not paid for the materials in question, Fletch should just DMCA the materials in question.

                                                                                                                                          I don't think any reputable ISP or uplink will risk getting sued

                                                                                                                                          Any and all banners must be removed. Any and all tours with ripped materials must be removed. Any and all materials not used for its intended purposed must be removed. Quite a large and costly blow

                                                                                                                                          $500 was the cheap way out

                                                                                                                                          FLETCH, if this is just more GFY drama then keep on bickering. If you are serious with this then send out the DMCA to Donovan's ISP and the issue will be resolved w/in 48hrs.
                                                                                                                                          Sig too big!

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                                                                                                                                            • HarrytheNazi
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 1164
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