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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #1

    Sponsors CHECK your fhg's please..

    Seems like evrytime i do an indepth look at a sponsor's fhg's i find skimming.. maybe its not intentional ( well infact most of the time it is unintentional im sure )

    But it PISSES ME OFF. You have employees, make them get off their asses and review the damn things..

    You might have noticed my threads about various sponsors fhg's in the past and the errors i have found..

    The other day i notice bandbrosonline galleries are not giving the affiliate credit. To most of you it may not be a big deal.. But HALF the oxpass galleries dont give the webmaster credit..

    http://oxpass.bangbros1.com/104/?a=bangb/

    the links show the affiliate code , but when you click them they change to NOADVERT

    This is NOT a knock at bangbros, its a knock at sponsors who don't check their shit..

    If your a sponsor , please pay someone to review EACH AND EVERY LINK/PIC/WORD etc.. it seriously can't be such a large undertaking..

    - end grumpy rant

    p.s. bangbros was very fast at responding but despite my semi-detailed instructions 2 days later and they only fixed the one example gallery i posted on gfy unless its just me..
    hatisblack at yahoo.com
  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #2
    btw if you read this and dont bump it , you are a flaming homo..
    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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    • WarChild
      Let slip the dogs of war.
      • Jan 2003
      • 17263

      #3
      .

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      • xclusive
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Apr 2004
        • 35218

        #4
        have to bump it as this is a serious issue that is making a lot of people lose money

        I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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        • SmokeyTheBear
          ►SouthOfHeaven
          • Jun 2004
          • 28609

          #5
          Originally posted by WarChild

          hmm so i guess this means you aren't a flaming homo...


          but .... grrr...
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          • SomeCreep
            :glugglug
            • Mar 2003
            • 26118

            #6
            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
            Seems like evrytime i do an indepth look at a sponsor's fhg's i find skimming.. maybe its not intentional ( well infact most of the time it is unintentional im sure )
            what other sponsors did you find?

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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #7
              Originally posted by SomeCreep
              what other sponsors did you find?
              realitycash ,nastydollars , several others
              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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              • Hornydog4cooter
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2005
                • 2859

                #8
                Yeap i made a post about this same damn thing a few weeks ago.....

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                • p1mpdogg
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 16714

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                  Seems like evrytime i do an indepth look at a sponsor's fhg's i find skimming.. maybe its not intentional ( well infact most of the time it is unintentional im sure )

                  But it PISSES ME OFF. You have employees, make them get off their asses and review the damn things..

                  You might have noticed my threads about various sponsors fhg's in the past and the errors i have found..

                  The other day i notice bandbrosonline galleries are not giving the affiliate credit. To most of you it may not be a big deal.. But HALF the oxpass galleries dont give the webmaster credit..

                  http://oxpass.bangbros1.com/104/?a=bangb/

                  the links show the affiliate code , but when you click them they change to NOADVERT

                  This is NOT a knock at bangbros, its a knock at sponsors who don't check their shit..

                  If your a sponsor , please pay someone to review EACH AND EVERY LINK/PIC/WORD etc.. it seriously can't be such a large undertaking..

                  - end grumpy rant

                  p.s. bangbros was very fast at responding but despite my semi-detailed instructions 2 days later and they only fixed the one example gallery i posted on gfy unless its just me..
                  check ours. we dont cheat and rip off ppl like all the ones you caught.

                  im willing to put money it that you dont find any holes
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                  • Antonio
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 14136

                    #10
                    bump

                    cool, I'm not a homo, I feel better ;)

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                    • SomeCreep
                      :glugglug
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 26118

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                      realitycash ,nastydollars , several others
                      That realitycash incident was a long time ago right? Did they ever fix it?

                      You should name all the sponsors you've found and cite examples of broken galleries. This way perhaps those sponsors will fix their galleries sooner.

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                      • Roald
                        SecretFriends.com
                        • May 2001
                        • 27910

                        #12
                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                        check ours. we dont cheat and rip off ppl like all the ones you caught.

                        im willing to put money it that you dont find any holes
                        so you are saying the spponsors mentioned are ripping people off?

                        hm interesting


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                        • SmokeyTheBear
                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                          That realitycash incident was a long time ago right? Did they ever fix it?

                          You should name all the sponsors you've found and cite examples of broken galleries. This way perhaps those sponsors will fix their galleries sooner.
                          yes they were all a while ago and they were all fixed fairly quickly.. kudos to the sponsors..

                          BUT i dont think fixing them is as good as them never happening in the first place..

                          Dont you think it should be a strange stat to see one of your galleries has never made an affiliate a sale ever ? Sponsors should at the very least notice an anamoly(sp) in the stats, ..
                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                            best designer on GFY
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30307

                            #14
                            Originally posted by QuaShe
                            so you are saying the spponsors mentioned are ripping people off?

                            hm interesting
                            Please...

                            What would it be? An accident?

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                            • The Ghost
                              IslandDollars.com
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 12188

                              #15
                              Please by all means check ours. All galleries and traffic should receive 100% payment for your hard earned traffic. If there are any variations to this, please contact me immediately and we will take care of it.

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #16
                                Originally posted by QuaShe
                                so you are saying the spponsors mentioned are ripping people off?

                                hm interesting

                                well anything is possible , but no, in each of the above mentioned , it was either a problem with a server , or a designer problem ( like a hardcoded link url )

                                or they could be just saying that... , but i trust realitycash , and the nd/bb team. too long in the biz and well respected to try to pull a fast one on affiliates
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • Roald
                                  SecretFriends.com
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 27910

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AlienQ
                                  Please...

                                  What would it be? An accident?
                                  I think when they would try to rip off the webmasters they would do it a bit better and less obvious don't you think?

                                  I agree it looks shady but I don't think they woudl be that stupid to do it like this


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                                  • Roald
                                    SecretFriends.com
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 27910

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                    .....too long in the biz and well respected to try to pull a fast one on affiliates
                                    well yeah thats what I mean, If you are going to fuck over people do it in a proper way and less out in the crowd.


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                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 30307

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by QuaShe
                                      I think when they would try to rip off the webmasters they would do it a bit better and less obvious don't you think?

                                      I agree it looks shady but I don't think they woudl be that stupid to do it like this
                                      Why not?
                                      Programs have tried many different ways over the years is all, and the stupid level's some people are reaching can no longer be used as an excuse. Its not hard to go through galleries and verify carefully. Not hard at all.

                                      Even if it is an "Accident" its still a cheat because it is ultimatly carelessness and incompetinance which brings them at fault.
                                      Bottom line black and white.
                                      Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 08-05-2005, 12:06 AM.

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by QuaShe
                                        well yeah thats what I mean, If you are going to fuck over people do it in a proper way and less out in the crowd.

                                        Personally i think a sponsor would have to have some stupid motherfuckers working for them if they actually intentionally did this , thats why i'm 99.9999% positive on "almost" every case it was unintentional..

                                        What i tried to point out in some of my other threads was , you never know why , who or for what reason these things take place.

                                        Rogue designer hardcodes his own reflink into certain links on fhg's ( certainly not an impossibility )

                                        A sponsor site manager wants to increase his "niche" sites profit.. ( i.e. signups remain the same but profit suddenly increases ) unknown to the owners/boss

                                        etc etc


                                        realitycash had several different types of errors on their galleries , one of them was the fact the galleries sit in multiple copies on several servers to increase speed. So if there was a problem with one gallery , you might refresh the browser and its all of a sudden fixed ( because only one copy is corrupt/missing )

                                        This one to me was scary because one time i was sitting thinking of different ways a sponsor could be shaving you , and i thought of that way.

                                        Kind of like tgp cheaters who use dialers, they submit a gallery thats clean , but the page picks up the gallery reviewers ip the first time he reviews it , ( or the first couple ip's ) then it shows the clean page to the reviewer and shows dialer crap to everyone else, so even when the webmaster gets a complaint he checks the gallery and it looks fine.

                                        Well i was thinking if they just rotated a false gallery or a 404 in on different ip ranges that couldn't possibly be the webmaster checking his own links , they would almost never get caught, because even if someone did notice, ina few seconds it would work fine again ( rotating to the next ip set )
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                          best designer on GFY
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 30307

                                          #21
                                          Very spookie smokey.

                                          And on that note I am out;)

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                                          • Roald
                                            SecretFriends.com
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 27910

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            ....

                                            Well i was thinking if they just rotated a false gallery or a 404 in on different ip ranges that couldn't possibly be the webmaster checking his own links , they would almost never get caught, because even if someone did notice, ina few seconds it would work fine again ( rotating to the next ip set )
                                            Don't give out ideas like that man ;))

                                            But I get your point, its hard to say yes or no in cases like this as a sponsor ofcourse wouldn't just say he we are ripping you off.


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                                            • Love Sex
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                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 1905

                                              #23
                                              Also a lot of programs (reps) do not respond to emails in timely manner. And quite a few dont even respond at all which is really starting to bother me.

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                Don't give out ideas like that man ;))

                                                But I get your point, its hard to say yes or no in cases like this as a sponsor ofcourse wouldn't just say he we are ripping you off.
                                                yes , and in any case the first thing i would judge is the sponsors credibility , and all of the above mentioned are top notch , thats why my instinct tells me its just quirky errors , but quirky errors that cost me money regardless of the intention ..
                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                • Machete_
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                                                  #25
                                                  bump untill we get a bangbros reply

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                                                  • Turf
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                      :glugglug
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 26118

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                                      bump untill we get a bangbros reply
                                                      They sleep at night.

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                                                      • monaro
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                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 968

                                                        #28
                                                        Bump for SmokeyTheBear, I see you as a leader for wms to take focus on your efforts in confronting these issues on the fhgs that some Sponsors checking and or reviewing such fhgs has been nonexistent.

                                                        The Sponsors that hold such fhgs in question, a solution to develop and implement the checking / reviewing of the fhgs can deliver a win win.

                                                        Your strategies SmokeyTheBear here today is seen as a good thing, working close with your Sponsor shows your already having your win win.

                                                        Have a great day.
                                                        Mark

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                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 28609

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                                          bump untill we get a bangbros reply
                                                          I should have clarified bangbros was already notified via an earlier thread. It was a mistake on just those sets of galleries , and they fixed one but not all of them..

                                                          this isn't just about bangbros , just a mental fart to other sponsors to check their galleries so i dont have too

                                                          I wish they would fix them faster but oh well, they have priorities i suppose.
                                                          Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 08-05-2005, 01:39 AM.
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                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 28609

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                            check ours. we dont cheat and rip off ppl like all the ones you caught.

                                                            im willing to put money it that you dont find any holes
                                                            http://www.epicgals.com/cams/trisse/?evildick

                                                            404 but at least it doesnt drop code and go to a diff site like others

                                                            btw i dont know if that was just a freaky coincidence but that was the very first gallery i checked LOL

                                                            I'll let you know if i find any real errors
                                                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 28609

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                              check ours. we dont cheat and rip off ppl like all the ones you caught.

                                                              im willing to put money it that you dont find any holes
                                                              You should really have someone look into your exit consoles. Theres no reason for them to be popping into already open windows, that particular code can be used to target="_blank" so why not use it. It just pisses surfers off , and it pisses webmasters off because they cant check the links.. It would take me hours to go thru the links the easy way with epic's fhg's because of the console's rather than minutes without them.. got some no console links ?
                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                              • soukee
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 1108

                                                                #32
                                                                ... interesting thread. I am curious about sponsors comments
                                                                I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 28609

                                                                  #33
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/michelle/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/kinkyrina/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/jaklin/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/candice/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/april/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/angelika/?evildick
                                                                  http://www.epicgals.com/cams/adrienne/?evildick

                                                                  These all have typo's on the bottom. it says "abeautifull"

                                                                  btw to the drama queens , these arent huge errors , just pointing them out because i was asked to check
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                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 28609

                                                                    #34
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al7/affiliates/?evildick

                                                                    This gallery says 30 minute free trial but the join page says 1 day trial ..

                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al2/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al3/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al4/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al5/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al6/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al7/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al8/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al9/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al10/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    http://www.epicgals.com/al11/affiliates/?evildick
                                                                    Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 08-05-2005, 02:02 AM.
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                                                                    • Roald
                                                                      SecretFriends.com
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 27910

                                                                      #35
                                                                      haha PD and his big mouth :D


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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 28609

                                                                        #36
                                                                        http://www.epicgals.com/ah19/affiliates/?evildick

                                                                        typo's
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                                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 28609

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                          haha PD and his big mouth :D
                                                                          well to be fair , none of these errors , really cause much "financial damage" as any of the other problems mentioned, so i will give them that , most are just technical or grammatical ( sp lol ) errors
                                                                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                          • Machete_
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                                                                            • 14579

                                                                            #38


                                                                            PD you fool - you were so sure of your own program

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                                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 32467

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Hmm... Perhaps all of the sponsors should pay Smokey about $500 each to check the shit out. For some that would mean like ... nothing... to them.

                                                                              Then deal with him in private... don't pay? Fuck you, you deserve to get posted about here.

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                                                                              • Kris The Knife
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                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 481

                                                                                #40
                                                                                http://oxpass.bangbros1.com/106/?a=bangb/

                                                                                it changes to NOADVERT
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                                                                                • Due
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                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 3620

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Hi,
                                                                                  I'm from [INSERT_SPONSOR_NAME]
                                                                                  Thank you for noticing.
                                                                                  We will fix this ASAP next month or so.
                                                                                  This mistake happend because [*Selected* -HARDWARE_FAILURE-|-USED -BAD_OUTSOURCING-|-USED TEMPLATE_MIXUP]
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                                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 32467

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Due
                                                                                    Hi,
                                                                                    I'm from [INSERT_SPONSOR_NAME]
                                                                                    Thank you for noticing.
                                                                                    We will fix this ASAP next month or so.
                                                                                    This mistake happend because [*Selected* -HARDWARE_FAILURE-|-USED -BAD_OUTSOURCING-|-USED TEMPLATE_MIXUP]
                                                                                    Sadly, you are all to relevant to this kinda thread!

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                                                                                    • x3m
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                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 256

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Our galleries are 100% tracked through hardcoded php link codes.

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                                                                                      • fusionx
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                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                        • 4618

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Bump for a great thread (and cuz I'm not a flaming homo)

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                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 42635

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Yep. A lot of sponsors do this.

                                                                                          I will immediately drop them when I find out in trial surfs I do once a week for quality control. I do not fuck around. I understand they are all about making money, but if you are going to fuck over the person bringing you the traffic, and to the marketplace, then it's only a matter of time before the webby's start removing you, and rightfully so. Plenty of legit sponsors out there who enjoy a partnership arrangement, and work as a team. Then you have those who try and sham you, and when your 'work for money' start requiring having to track, and chase it down, then it's to much grief, and time to find a new sponsor.

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                                                                                          • mardigras
                                                                                            Bon temps!
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 14194

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Hmmm... I read and bumped this thread, yet I'm still a homo (although not flaming)
                                                                                            .

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                                                                                            • XxXotic
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                                                                                              • 8500

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              accident...



                                                                                              is that what they're calling it these days?
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                                                                                              • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 60840

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                also sponsors using heavy graphical galleries because they *think* they convert better, please look at load time and the way your galleries look like shit because heavy sliced graphics still take load time vs a clean and simple effectice CTR gallery.

                                                                                                i was looking at galleries at a sponsor yesterday and if I tried to hand that over to one of my clients they wouldnt even accept it, yet site owners seem to be blinded by graphics no matter what.

                                                                                                people pushing heavy graphics galleries with fullsize cut ou7t images of the girls need top rethink the mission, and site owners doing it really must be just trying to cu corners by hiring cheap designers to do the work in bulk and then it loads like shit.

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                                                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                                                  lol
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 15969

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I only use hosted galleries I check and that are from reliable sponsors. As it is it rubs me the wrong way when they don't put the right site url on the pics. Shave you say?

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                                                                                                  • 3piece chicken Dinner
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I agree FletchXXX a good gallery should load fast. should focus on content and ctr. Hell give me one template that looks like it was torn off the roll by the bowl and I'll give you a good ctr and design that is timeless that can be bought by everyone and sold to everyone.




                                                                                                    But what do we know, it isn't like anyone other than Smokey and 2 others ever check them. They're free and we don't have to pay the bandwidth on them.
                                                                                                    "We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine."

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