Lets say a 2 kiloton nuke gets set off in D.C.

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  • infecto
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    • May 2003
    • 1697

    #51
    Bah all these talks about nukes etc is such a waste of time. if anything they might be able to make a dirty bomb but the fallout from a dirty bomb will be minimal...

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    • wedouglas
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      • Aug 2004
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      #52
      Be realistic though. How many freedoms do you think you'll lose that will actually effect you in a negative way? I always hear this "taking away or freedom" talk. I have yet to find myself censored or restricted in anyway, and I doubt I will see this ever happen.

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      • azguy
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        #53
        Originally posted by wedouglas
        Be realistic though. How many freedoms do you think you'll lose that will actually effect you in a negative way? I always hear this "taking away or freedom" talk. I have yet to find myself censored or restricted in anyway, and I doubt I will see this ever happen.
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        • nexcom28
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          • Jan 2005
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          #54
          Originally posted by Rui
          sales would go down alot lol...sorry couldn't help it
          Bollocks they would

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          • swedguy
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            #55
            Originally posted by wedouglas
            Yup. You would see every remotely extremist group round up and indefinately imprisoned. Terrorism stands no chance when it comes down to it. If war is what they want, war is what they will end up getting. Unfortunately for them, they stand no chance.
            You have not been following what's happening in the world. I think they are doing pretty good for themself

            In a "regular" war, US is superior. No doubt about that.

            Just look at Iraq. Iraq is not a "regular" war. You don't have an enemy force dug down in the desert somewhere that you can blow up with a missile shot from 100 miles away.
            There you have suicide bombers, snipers and rebels hiding in houses. They are willing to fight eye to eye and die for their cause. Is the US army willing to fight on those terms?

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            • SGS
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              • Dec 2002
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              #56
              Thinking that terrorists are stupid is the same mistake that a lot of world leaders have made to their cost over the years. Most leading cities are pretty soft targets for the sort of evil bastards that want to kill and maim indiscriminately. The information and networking now available via the web and the determination that these people show really shouldn?t be underestimated especially after our own governments and Special Forces have in a lot of cases trained them.
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              • wedouglas
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                #57
                Originally posted by swedguy
                You have not been following what's happening in the world. I think they are doing pretty good for themself

                In a "regular" war, US is superior. No doubt about that.

                Just look at Iraq. Iraq is not a "regular" war. You don't have an enemy force dug down in the desert somewhere that you can blow up with a missile shot from 100 miles away.
                There you have suicide bombers, snipers and rebels hiding in houses. They are willing to fight eye to eye and die for their cause. Is the US army willing to fight on those terms?
                Apparently the US army is, because they are still there.

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                • Rui
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                  • Dec 2001
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by nexcom28
                  Bollocks they would
                  If after 9/11 the whole economic went to shitter, you can fucking bet if something like this happened the economic would get very very very brown

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                  • swedguy
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                    • Jan 2002
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by wedouglas
                    Apparently the US army is, because they are still there.
                    They are still there, but that doesn't mean things have gotten better or they have "won" something.

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                    • benc
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                      • Jan 2002
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                      #60
                      Not sure if Al Qada has nukes, but Israel sure does and setting off a nuke here would be the final push needed for the Americans to wipe out the middle east.
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                      • rickholio
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by XxXotic
                        i may be stupid for thinking this and that's fine, but what the fuck does it matter how complex a device is? if it explodes and kills people does it matter if it's run by microprocessors or a match stick and tampon string?
                        Simplicity is better. The more complex a system is, the greater likelihood of failure of that system... in the case of a bomb, the more complex it is, the greater likelihood of it failing and blowing the snot out of YOU.

                        IEDs are effective precisely because they're so simple. Small, powerful, and anyone with basic chemistry and electronics skills can put one together with a reasonable expectation of survival and resonable expectation of causing casualties.
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                        • nexcom28
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                          #62
                          If after 9/11 the whole economic went to shitter, you can fucking bet if something like this happened the economic would get very very very brown
                          Just cos some shitty US city gets blown up doesn't mean the entire industry is gonna stop wanting and looking at porn.

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                          • KingAsher
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                            #63
                            If they do have a nuke, the smartest place to set it off would have to be LA, right in the heart, thats if they are trying to kill as many people as possible (which I assume is the objective) I mean where the fuck are you gonna go run to? It takes me at least an hour to get from the Deep Valley to Wilshire, if they drop it in LA everyone here is fucked.....
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                            • SuckOnThis
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                              • Oct 2003
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                              #64
                              Its fucking bullshit almost 4 years after 9/11 this is even an issue. Instead of concentrating on the real problem and eliminating it Bush has done the exact opposite. bin Laden and al-Zawahri are still on the loose and you can bet there are more attacks in the works. Meanwhile, invading Iraq has done nothing more than create even more hatred towards the West along with tens of thousands more terrorists. Anyone who thinks these people don't have the capability to carry out such an attack is a fool. They are well financed and it is known that Russia has missing plutonium. It is also known that the US has found both schematics of nuclear weapons and blueprints of nuclear factories from confiscated Al-Qaida computers. Its going to happen folks, and if you don't believe it just ask yourself this. Why hasnt there been even one attack here since 9/11? We know there are terrorists here, but nothing has happened. They do not want to shoot their load on some pitiful suicide bombing, they are reloading for the big one.
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                              • Rui
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                                • Dec 2001
                                • 9533

                                #65
                                Originally posted by nexcom28
                                Just cos some shitty US city gets blown up doesn't mean the entire industry is gonna stop wanting and looking at porn.
                                think again...it has a domino effect on the World Economy like it or not...

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                                • sextoyking
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                  Its fucking bullshit almost 4 years after 9/11 this is even an issue. Instead of concentrating on the real problem and eliminating it Bush has done the exact opposite. bin Laden and al-Zawahri are still on the loose and you can bet there are more attacks in the works. Meanwhile, invading Iraq has done nothing more than create even more hatred towards the West along with tens of thousands more terrorists. Anyone who thinks these people don't have the capability to carry out such an attack is a fool. They are well financed and it is known that Russia has missing plutonium. It is also known that the US has found both schematics of nuclear weapons and blueprints of nuclear factories from confiscated Al-Qaida computers. Its going to happen folks, and if you don't believe it just ask yourself this. Why hasnt there been even one attack here since 9/11? We know there are terrorists here, but nothing has happened. They do not want to shoot their load on some pitiful suicide bombing, they are reloading for the big one.

                                  Good points there. I would have to agree as would alot of Intel ppl that they are 100% sure there are sleeper cells in the usa.. When and if they will strike is anyone's guess, but I do belive it will happen.
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                                  • crockett
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                                    • May 2003
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by pr0
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                                    Thats the day after though....thats no good.

                                    Man i think i'm moving to west virginia....theres nothing to nuke out there.
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                                    • pr0
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                                      • May 2001
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                      The FBI's main headquarters is in West Virgina
                                      They got alot of main buildings, most of them are in d.c. & v.a.
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                                      • zagi
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                                        • Jan 2004
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                                        #69
                                        I wouldn't be worried a suitcase nuke will take out about 5 city blocks. Its only if they drop the bomb from a plane that we would have mass devestation. Now if you can fly over DC ( a no fly zone ) and drop a nuke, hell you deserve blowing those fuckers up!

                                        Maybe someone in the Air Force will finally put up a radar and have fighter jets intercept air traffic that has gone of course rather than wait for something to happen and then scramble.
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                                        • milambur
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                                          • Jan 2003
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                                          #70
                                          2KT nuke is a very small nuke, Hiroshima (little boy) was 13KT. Shockwave, heat and initial radiation would be leathal at tops 200 yards from blast. Fallout would depend on alot of factors, but you would be safe at 50miles. Only about 10% of the blast energy ends up as residual radiation. I'd say tops 20k dead if detonated in regular populated area, but possibly higher at city centers. Nukes are pretty easy to detect with sensors thou.

                                          I'm more concerned they will use bio weapons, Pneumonic plauge at major airport hubs would be pretty nasty.
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                                          • 2257-Ben
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by swedguy
                                            Lets say they have a nuke. What do they gain on setting it off on that particular day?
                                            Yeah, especially when most of the 'government' is out of session and on vacation because August in Washington D.C. is totally unbearable.
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                                            • WarChild
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                                              • Jan 2003
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                                              #72
                                              How can anybody argue these people are NOT stupid?

                                              Can you name any force through history that won out and came to to power by blowing *THEMSELVES* up? Somebody's confused.
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                                              • swedguy
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                How can anybody argue these people are NOT stupid?

                                                Can you name any force through history that won out and came to to power by blowing *THEMSELVES* up? Somebody's confused.
                                                Today's suicide bombers. Is their goal to come to power?

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                                                • tristan_D
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                                                  #74
                                                  reminds me of that movie Sum of All Fears. a nuke exploded in Baltimore I think. scary.
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                                                  • Bama
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                                                    #75
                                                    Here's a website that'll give you a better understanding
                                                    http://www.nationalterroralert.com/r...de/nuclear.htm

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                                                    • toddler
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                      Exactly. A US highschool kid could cause more damage in this country then those jihad motherfuckers nowadays.
                                                      no offense meant, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

                                                      so far as nuke's go, the best offensive move terrorists could make would be do detonate one in either the west coast, or denver, and let the weather patterns carry the fallout as far as it would go and destroy what they can of the agriculture market. you want worldwide catastrophe, thats it.
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                                                      • nofx
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                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                        #77
                                                        i hope it happens

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                                                        • PixeLs
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by samsam
                                                          some of these people are ignorant - a 2 kiloton is relatively small.

                                                          Hiroshima bomb was a 15 kiloton weapon.
                                                          So that means I can be safe at 20 mile distance?

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