8 American tourists arrested for shooting porn in Rio

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they got owned lol

It happens if you are too cheap to bribe the cops

exactly ... and each neighborhood have their local " mafia ' ; you don't shoot on somebody's turf without getting consent before ....

i forgot to watch this film. thanks guys for reminding me.

by the way. hope those guys gets what they deserved. fuckers!

2nd world? my arse. Brasil is 3rd world. I was there earlier this year and if it's 2nd world then fuked if i ever want to go to a 3rd world country.

Here are names and ages of the arrested guys

Names and ages are in this article from oglobo.globo.com (needs registration)

I don't know if there is a problem pasting the entire article. If there is, can someone edit it down to just the names and ages??

Names and ages are here. 2 more are missing and being sought.

Os americanos David Joseph de Nino, de 24 anos, Alfred Eric Spellman, de 27, Marco Antonio Garcia, de 35, William Marcus Cohen, de 26, Conrado Gomes Junior, de 38, Stewart Lindsay Hopwele, de 26, Keith Anthony Ludwigsen, de 32, e William Wayne Fernandez, de 33

The stuff about R$ 300 for 40 days is bullshit, never heard this. I think it is R$ 300 per scene shot. Still cheap, 800 is a more normal price (US$ 1 = R$ 2.40). Also, they did not find any minors whatsoever, but minors are always the excuse for starting a raid. Minors in Rio are bad news and to be avoided at all cost. Hire an expert from police, notary public, or whatever to check the ID for authenticity!!

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03/08/2005 - 23h47m
Americanos faziam filmes pornográficos em mansão em São Conrado

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RIO - Oito americanos foram presos, na noite de terça-feira, numa mansão em São Conrado, acusados de aliciamento de mulheres para produção de filmes pornográficos. Os estrangeiros foram flagrados com oito brasileiras contratadas para participar das produções. No Brasil há 40 dias, o grupo de americanos entre 20 e 40 anos, alegou não saber que a exploração da prostituição era crime no país. A polícia ainda procura por dois turistas dos Estados Unidos que estariam na cidade para participar das filmagens.

Os americanos David Joseph de Nino, de 24 anos, Alfred Eric Spellman, de 27, Marco Antonio Garcia, de 35, William Marcus Cohen, de 26, Conrado Gomes Junior, de 38, Stewart Lindsay Hopwele, de 26, Keith Anthony Ludwigsen, de 32, e William Wayne Fernandez, de 33, foram autuados pelo crime de favorecimento à prostituição. Eles tiveram seus passaportes apreendidos e encaminhados à Polícia Federal. Todos os presos foram levados para a carceragem da Divisão de Capturas da Polinter. Duas mulheres brasileiras que também estavam na mansão e trabalhavam para o grupo responderão por aliciamento de mulheres para a prostituição. A pena para este tipo de crime varia entre dois e cinco anos de prisão.

De acordo com a polícia, a quadrilha já havia sido denunciada ao Disque-Denúncia há 30 dias. Na terça-feira à noite, uma das mulheres contratadas pelos americanos resolveu levar a polícia até o local, já que o cachê recebido por ela foi menor do que o prometido. O delegado Marcos Neves, da 36ª DP (Santa Cruz) afirmou que os filmes poderiam ser vendidos por até US$ 40 mil no exterior, enquanto cada mulher recebia R$ 300 pelo trabalho.

Ainda de acordo com o delegado, a maioria das moças contratadas pelos estrangeiros mora em bairros da zona oeste da cidade, como Sepetiba, Mangaratiba e Itaguaí. Algumas delas moram em Copacabana, na zona sul.

Os filmes eram produzidos na piscina da casa e nos quartos. Em depoimento ao delegado Marcos Neves, as mulheres contaram que foram contratadas para gravar inicialmente cenas de sexo entre elas, mas receberam a promessa dos americanos que, posteriormente, contracenariam com modelos masculinos contratados no Brasil.

Foram apreendidos no apartamento, além de oito filmes produzidos no Rio, fotografias, três laptops, três câmeras e uma pequena quantidade de maconha num armário.

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I don't really consider Brasil a 2nd world country...I cant even belive why some many people from here go there (well i can, they go because its dirty cheap)..

Fucked up place

3rd world = Everybody is damn poor, can barely survive and some dictators / military get all the money, take parts of africa as for example.

2nd world = Lots of poverty but also lots of money and a good social middle class exists.

Sao Paulo for example is the biggest south american capital.

If you think Brazil is a 3rd world country you either have never been there or you don't know what real 3rd world country is (big parts of africa etc.).

No, it´s not illegal to shoot porn.

Prostitution is illegal.

Where did you find that??

Prostitution IS illegal in Brazil.

They got busted EXACTLY because of this. They were exploiting the hookers.

Check different sources.

This thread needs to be locked or deleted.

If there was minors involved the US authorities could charge them with a crime.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...le=18&sec=2423

(b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Sexual Act With a Juvenile. -
A person who travels in interstate commerce, or conspires to do so,
or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent
residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, or
conspires to do so, for the purpose of engaging in any sexual act
(as defined in section 2246) with a person under 18 years of age
that would be in violation of chapter 109A if the sexual act
occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of
the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not
more than 15 years, or both.

not from here there isn't

it was from the reuters link

Prostitution is legal in Brazil. For consenting adults.

Now everything surrounding prostitution is illegal. Exploiting, promoting, making money off it (only the prostitute can make money), convincing someone to become a prostitute, everything is illegal except hiring one for yourself.

Of course, hundreds of illegal whore houses brazenly advertise in the newspapers and offer job openings, in blatant violation of the penal code.

I talked to several people, including a lawyer who is an expert on pimping and whoring, and even he had no clear answer about legality of porn.

But most likely it is legal, provided you don't hire illegal aliens on tourist visas, you incorporate as talent agency and movie business, etc. you also should have a good criminal lawyer in stand-by mode and consider paying off some police guys

I also contacted some lawyers, the current situation of Brazilian laws when it comes to PORN is a fucking mess! The lack of information is unbelievable.

We will continue to see people gettting busted often, simply because there is no clear information available. What if you put an ad in a newspaper and a hooker show up for an interview, you must do detective work and figure out she was lying about been a broke student and is actually a hooker? Otherwiser you're breaking the laws for promoting prostitution??? WTF.

And I'm also surprised, I never heard about "legal prostitution" in Brazil. It has always been illegal! Maybe I'm missing something.

I wonder how big guys like evilangel are dealing with this crap, many brazilian porn stars are well known hookers, as well as many playboy playmates/bunnies... will they go after Playboy and John Stagliano for hiring "undercover" hookers?

hmmmm

wtf 6789

whatever world.. at least they have an election system that works and around 12 years ahead of anything in the US (or many other "1st world" countries) - plus they have laws that throw pedos in jail cells.

I am in the market for this kind of content. If you have it or know who does give me a shout. pornwolf (at) gmail.com

Prostitution IS legal in Brazil

Prostitution is perfectly legal in Brazil, if both parties are over 18. That is a fact.

I asked my lawyer again. There is no law specifically saying that it is legal.

Just it is not prohibited by any law, and it is a well known fact that prostitution is legal and has always been, at least for the last couple of decades. Take that as a fact. I read it dozens of times in the newspapers, and heard it from various lawyers.

There are half a dozen articles in the Brazilian Criminal code (codigo penal) dealing with all kinds of crimes involving prostitution. You can look up the entire code on the internet.

Nowhere do they cite prohibition of prostitution for over 18 year olds.

People over 18 can sell their bodies for sex, or hire someone for sex, perfectly legally.

If you were observant, at all these recent arrests with foreigners, no foreigner was ever charged with fucking the girl for money. No girl was ever held, they were just interrogated and released.



Now, there is a saying: "In Brazil everything is prohibited. But you can also get away with absolutely anything if you do it right".


So everything remotely connected to prostitution is, theoretically, illegal. For example, enticing non-prostitutes to work as prostitutes. (of course, the classifieds are full of such ads, but they don't go after the big papers, they go after foreigners who don't have the connections). The Brazilian pimp/agency women present at the porn movie mansion were charged with that crime. Most likely they did not have a business license as a talent agency, otherwise they most likely would not have been charged.

So actually, hiring a prostitute for your film is safer then hiring another girl that has no such past.

Now making money off a prostitute is a crime that sometimes is actually enforced. So these uninformed idiots said they were getting US$ 40 000 for a film and paying the girl US$ 130. Had they said that they are broke and most likely will never break even, that they will get US 130 per movie and are doing this only for the fun of fucking around, they would have been in a much better position.

Now this law means to discourage pimps who take a 50% cut off the girls' pay. The police are scrambling to use this law to find something that they can charge these guys with. I asked the experts about Playboy, and then the retracted and talked about having the proper business license.

And of course, there are hundreds of agencies and whore houses where the girls get less then half the money. But, these houses pay the right people to be left in peace.

There is a funny story. A few months ago, vice cops from the underage protection squad came to crack down on the number one whore house in Ipanema. Among the customers were several judges and superior court judges who told police to take a hike and be lucky they would let them go without suffering any consequences.

So, Playboy is safe. About Stagliano, I wonder. If he has a work visa, a good lawyer, and an incorporated Brazilian company, plus pays some fees to the cops, then he probably is safe.

Disclaimer: nothing here is to be construed as legal advice, just my educated hunches about the law!!

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Curiousdog and (Gk) can you both please add me to your contacts?

I'd love to talk to you over ICQ.

and this comes as a surprise because... ???

Hey curiousdog

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I want to chat with you about that Content.

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I guess it is tricky to draw the line.

I am sure that the story is 100% true. We all know that reporters never print "facts" unless they are true. Right?

I've been shooting in Rio on and off for the past couple of years. this is the most recent scene i shot there:
http://www.onionbooty.com/archives/b...-brazilian.htm

and i've spoke to a lot of law authorities over time about this. what i have gathered is that:
1- Prostitution is legal
2- Pimping is a big fucking crime.
3- If you need to shoot porn, you need to do it through a registered company (corporation) based out of Brazil. My partner is on the set with me at all times with all his paperwork, just in case there's a bust.

Also I never shoot out of houses, always have to have a buffer between the actual location and uninvited elements (ie 24 hour security or gate security) so they can at least call and warn us before anybody comes and kicks the door down. basically my advice stay the fuck away from shooting in apartments and houses. so tip, take care of your gate security dood all the time. a crisp hundred dollar bill might not seem much to you, but could save your fucking ass.

Also very important, never never never travel with the actual tapes/footage.Always Fedex the the miniDV tapes to yourself prior to leaving. if you shoot a lot, do it every other day. remove all compromising pics from your laptop. burn them on CD/DVD and Fedex them with the tapes.

hope this helps

Already, responded to this days ago...no we had nothing to do with this. Thanks for the excellent reporting XBiz.

STOP her!! I will fuck her I can not move my body so fast

The minors theres no excuse for
The adult models they should have gotten atleast 6 bucks a day

Sorry to hear about that Jay thats a f-ed up situation

To Bad that fucking sucks

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Hi man, don't think so

I read that they got busted because one of the girls complained to the cops that she was under paid.