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Old 12-30-2006, 07:37 PM  
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Originally Posted by Flow View Post
Iraq is in the middle of a Cival War. Whether we send more troops in or not, this cival war is inevitable. If we send more troops in or keep the troops we have in there, the bottom line is Cival War is coming and we cannot stop it. Based on this, I say full pull out in a years time - no if and or buts about it.

I am sick of hearing "if we leave, the terrorist will take over Iraq and the US will be done." If we leave, and this happens - why can't we go right back in? How about we spend the $2 million a minute that we are spending on Iraq on securing BOTH boarders, scanning ALL cargo that comes into the US for radiation, beefing up the TSA to make sure none of the terrorist can get into the USA ever again. If the terrorist can't get in, they can't blow up our building or hijack our planes.
Valid point on that Civil War and agree - it's irrelevant how many US troops are dumped on Iraq, - they won't make any significant difference.

Slightly different, but related - no amount of "occupation" will change the Middle East - others attempted it and withdrew. That other nation, Afghanistan had it's "invasion" - but little has changed there either.

Iraq has it's own problems now - much bigger than Saddam. Both sides will kill each other (and anyone who stands in their way). Each has a habit of putting lead into brains and leaving bodies for collection. That is hardly the basis for any US style democracy and seriously doubt US management ever thought that possible. The US.. or prob any other country, is not equipped to handle the Middle East. No other nation should assume any rights to handle this region either - it's none of their business.

Only my but doubt anyone in Iraq gives a shit about the US or it's borders, - they have their own problems. Despite that, anyone attempting terrorist action on the US or any other nation as a result of messing in the Middle East, will have no problem, even with increased security. Nothing is infallible and bending a way of live to try and stop it is like giving in to potential terrorist pressure.

No nation on this planet has ever defeated "terrorism" thru centuries - what's different now? All "settlements" were done at a conference table - not by guns, but it takes decades of frustration to reach that conference table and the damage is still continuing. Obviously the longer the US remains in the Middle East, the "anti" will increase - not just in Iraq. This crap will last decades - it's not the same as walking away from Vietnam - and there is no easy get out.
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