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Adult...Who said anything about adult? Did my statement regarding volatility breeze past you? If so, allow me to elaborate. My statement regarding the adult world being a bitch/volatility (ups & downs) - inferred, that although I pay more my investments (domains), I enjoy the comforts of the mainstream world. Unlike what I would experience, in the adult world. The stability between the two varies greatly. So why oh why, would you chalk up my statement as so pro-Adult I would purchase one for 20x yrs revenue?Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Then again, I suppose I can quit the domain biz (since I'm overpaying/bound to go broke), and I could follow in your footsteps, and just critisize the business models of those in a position to buy both (real estate and domains). Those in a position who speak from experience/success, not just from what Internet-reasonining dictates to you. I can only dream though? To become a Jack of all trades, master of none, like you.
Not trying to be as harsh as this sounds. I just know polish has never owned a pure generic domain, and don't appreciate him chiming in on me, and putting a cutesy reply. As most generics aren't sold based on revenue, but rather their intrinistic value. Even if they were sold on the basis of revenue, most generic one word domains that are not consumer-related products, make several dollars daily. As such, 20 yrs x's monthly revenue is not as much as one would perceive. Mainstream domains do not make $35 pps. We make our money per click. Now this, in addition to increasing cpc rates/increased competition amongst ppc programs (percentage increases), etc, that 20 years can become 10 yrs or even 2 yrs with the right sponsor.Last edited by AVM; 07-30-2005, 02:35 PM.Comment
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There are other factors here that I have yet to see someone ask. How good is the domain? Is the content exclusive or purchased from a store? Is there content ready for updates? How hard is the content to find? What are the traffic sources for it, are you pumping your own traffic to it, and once it's sold the traffic will drop, or is it from somewhere else, or generated by the site itself? What type of promo material is there for it? What processor is the site under right now? Is the site generating new sales, or is it all rebills? There are more, but I think these are a good start.
I would say unless it's a really kick ass site you are looking at 3 maybe 6 months revenue, you need to be able to turn a profit in at most 6 months or you are wasting time.Comment
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Everyone is just basing their price off the amount you said it makes.. However what needs to be asked is how much profit does it make? It could be a TGP that burns 300 to $400 a month in B/W.. Then the other issue is how much time do you have to work on it per month?In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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People would give you around 5K$ or so, but I wouldn't sell it for less than 20k$. Hell if I ever would sell.Comment
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atleast 12k.
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I understand why buyers are skeptical of large multiples, but the fact that anybody's willing to sell for such tiny ones just blows me away. I guess that's why I won't be selling my blogs any time soon. They've got years of track record showing traffic and revenue growth every month, and the income from my best one compares favorably to *good* jobs I've held in my life. This is not volatile -- shit could happen, but no way are these blogs going to stop making me money if I pay attention and stay flexible.
So you can imagine my suprise when I had some pirate offer me very low five figures for one of my blogs not long ago. WTF? Why would I swap a solid no-end-in-sight income for a paltry few month's revenue? What kind of moron would take that deal?
I can't imagine selling any of my sites for less than 3-5 *years* of revenue. I know buyers won't go there because they don't trust the stability of the revenue, but I don't have that problem -- I know it's stable. Somebody who would sell their site for six month's revenue has *got* to know the site is about to go KABOOM, else why sell?Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.Comment
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Typical business rules of revenue generated by a business do not apply in a typical way to web sites.
Because that income can be lost so quickComment
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mainsteam site -> 12 months revenue
porn site today -> 6 months revenue
I won't pay any more for it!
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The person could need the money. Wants to retire, divorce, illness, death. Tons of reasons to sell. So once the motivation is in place, we are determining market price.Originally posted by Forkbeard
I do not have anything I would sell for one year's income right now but that does not make a market as my stuff is not up for sale.Comment
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lol at the 20 months callComment
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we are on an adult webmaster board.Originally posted by AVM
well what makes you think that I don't own any good adult domains? From my posting here it should be obvious that I do have some.Then again, I suppose I can quit the domain biz (since I'm overpaying/bound to go broke), and I could follow in your footsteps, and just critisize the business models of those in a position to buy both (real estate and domains).
Those in a position who speak from experience/success, not just from what Internet-reasonining dictates to you. I can only dream though? To become a Jack of all trades, master of none, like you.
actually you're right, I am buying the first mainstream domain this month. And yes, only for $15k, I know you make that in your sleep each dayI just know polish has never owned a pure generic domain.
I will print out the pic you posted on GFY few months ago and hang it over my bed.
And seriously, why all the hate? We are on an adult business forum, if you don't like people who concentrate mostly on adult, then don't post here and stick to DN Forum or whatever....I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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yes but not everyone here runs just adult sitesOriginally posted by polish_aristocrat
mainstream and adult.
i have a feeling its mainstream.Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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Anyone who says more than 6 months are lieing to you or would like to think their domains are worth as much.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Everyone can say anything!
The price you get is what the buyer pays..
10-12-2 years... Its just figures...
YOU GET WHAT THE BUYER PAYS... And that can depend...Comment
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i agree with youOriginally posted by slapassGlobal Traffic Acquisition & Monetization
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+- $5k and you should be happy.Comment
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someone who says it's worth 12 or 20 months of income - please, post here ANY example of such a site which requires 20 mins of daily attention , generates 1K and
may stay forever just because it's "so great site".
There is a reason why this site generates 1K USD per month and without this reason it will not make you penny. Instead of just believe in those "20 min of daily work" you as a normal buyer should ask him " why don't you work on the site 40 min"? may be it will bring you 2K ??
Bullshit about 20 min and bullshit about 1K.
Mainstream sites is a totally different case of course.Comment
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I have no hate for adult. I have a hate for posuers.Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
If the topic is how to "run a paysite", I won't slam Lensman. Why? Because, he's done better than I have, in the paysite arena. Okay, well, the same precedent applies for domains. Now, I'm no big dog. I do very very well, but I'm not even a fraction of the size of the big dogs. Nevertheless, regardless of this fact, I know domains. My track record/sales would put 95%+ of the industry to shame. Simple. This is my knack, and for you to give a condescending post questioning how much I pay - is absurd. That's my opinion, but then again, at times I'm a cry baby.
In any case, congrats on your first $15k buy......
lol, this may be a little too late now, but if you ever decide to sell it- uh hem
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Polish, I was going to reply to this topic - but figured you were better suited, considering the title of the topic.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=497645
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who cares, the guy doesn't even want to sell it nor tell anyone what site it is. So for me it's worth $8.88 the cost of the domain name.Comment
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Originally posted by slapass
Have to disagree with you. No one is going to sell a site for 6 months of revenue. What would be the point?Comment
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id say you would probably get ~$5k for it if its a adult domain say a tgp etc.....
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Originally posted by Sly
Same response I gave slapass. 12-18 on an established site depending on what it is. 3 months would be insane.Comment
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learn how to read and then tell me where I said it's my first $15k buyOriginally posted by AVMI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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