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  • TheDoc
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    Your Favorite Adult Companies Give Up Info To Gov

    I was reading over the FTC?s website about this spam crap that recently took place. What I found was mind blowing. This isn?t a bash against the companies that settled but it is fucked up. They agreed to some very fucked up terms. Companies that settled are: (BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc) (MD Media) (APC Entertainment Inc)(Pure Marketing Solutions LLC) (Internet Matrix Technology )

    You can read it yourself: Go to July 20th.
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/2005/07/index.htm#20
    Read the Stipulated Order ? Sections 4 & 5

    Here is just a cut of a few things they must provide:
    ?A list that identifies every person who is marketing or promoting, through
    commercial email messages, any goods or services of a Defendant since
    entry of this Order;? ? U.S. mailers you are fucked, complaint or not.

    ?Accounting records that reflect revenue generated by sales to individuals
    through an affiliate program and corresponding disbursements to participants
    Defendant?s affiliate program on an individual basis, including copies
    recently deposited check for each such participant paid by check;? ? The rest of us.

    You should read everything they have to give up. And you should thank the companies that said NO to these agreements: (T.J. Web Productions LLC) (Cyberheat Inc.) (Impulse Media Group)

    So the GOV can?t get a list of people to bust for 2257 because of the FSC, but now they have a list, a rather large list.

    --------------------------------------

    Some info about spam and MicroShit?s BS company..

    Paragaph Cuts From This Article By NWSource
    "Microsoft provided help with the FTC's investigation upon the agency's request, said Microsoft attorney Aaron Kornblum. It offered evidence and analysis of e-mails received in more than 130,000 free Hotmail accounts set up several years ago as "traps," he said."

    ?The traps have been in place since 2003?

    ?The company has also filed more than 100 lawsuits against spammers and 119 against so-called phishers?

    ?Kornblum said Microsoft's 12 full-time Internet-safety attorneys, investigators and paralegals first collect evidence?
    Last edited by TheDoc; 07-29-2005, 09:58 AM.
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  • MickeyG
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    • May 2004
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    #2
    damn thats some dirty shit.

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    • eroswebmaster
      March 1st, 2003
      • Jul 2001
      • 20295

      #3
      Shit - Meet fan.

      Since 2003 huh? Something tells me this is only the beginning.

      And as far as giving up info in settlements. Wow.
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      • Snake Doctor
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        • Mar 2001
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        #4
        Well at least it says they only have to give up information on affiliates who promote via email, not all the affiliates.

        But yeah, props to the companies who are fighting this.
        sig too big

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        • SCORE Ralph
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          • Mar 2003
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          #5
          Good find, Doc. Thanks for the link...
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          • TheDoc
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            • Jul 2001
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            #6
            Just so you know some of the agreements are different. I won't call out names but this is part of some peoples agreements.

            "A list of all names under which each Defendant did or currently does business since entry of this Order;"
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            • p1mpdogg
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              • Nov 2002
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              #7
              bangbros and pipecrew fucked their mailers lol

              classy
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              • OldSchoolJim
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                • Nov 2004
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                #8
                Is this the part where ithe IRS gets involved?

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                • High Plains Drifter
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                  • Jun 2005
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                  #9
                  Could somebody translate those companies into the programs that they run...

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                  • p1mpdogg
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                    • Nov 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by skinnywussy
                    Could somebody translate those companies into the programs that they run...

                    bangbros.com Inc = bangbros thats all you need to know
                    Last edited by p1mpdogg; 07-29-2005, 10:19 AM.
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                    • polish_aristocrat
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #11
                      looks like it applies only to mailers and not affiliates...
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                      • TheDoc
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                        • Jul 2001
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                        #12
                        BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc
                        http://www.bangbrosonline.com
                        http://www.nastydollars.com
                        http://www.oxcash.com

                        APC Entertainment Inc
                        www.adultplayersclub.com

                        Pure Marketing Solutions LLC
                        http://www.purecash.com

                        MD Media
                        http://www.pimproll.com (aka ARS)

                        Not sure..
                        Internet Matrix Technology
                        Last edited by TheDoc; 07-29-2005, 10:21 AM.
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                        • Machete_
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                          #13
                          big deal, I really dont se any problem in that.. so what they have our mail adresses.
                          the only people that have something to fear it the spammers, and they pretty much dont care since most is set up outside the us

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                          • tony299
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #14
                            I told you Tax evasion is so much easier then going for a obscenity charge. All those people that want to get paid by epassporte who see it as a way to get around the system. The system will find you ,they always do.

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                            • TheDoc
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                              • Jul 2001
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                              looks like it applies only to mailers and not affiliates...
                              They ALL have to provide either a list of ALL clients (webmasters) or accounting records of ALL webmasters. They do get a list one way or another.
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                              • p1mpdogg
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                big deal, I really dont se any problem in that.. so what they have our mail adresses.
                                the only people that have something to fear it the spammers, and they pretty much dont care since most is set up outside the us

                                keep on believing that.

                                tell us what it was like to be served by the ftc or the fbi or whoever does what they do to spammers. blanket prosecution, are you familiar with that?

                                its when they throw out a big net and real everyone in... then they ask questions later.

                                good luck!
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                                • Linkster
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                  ?Accounting records that reflect revenue generated by sales to individuals
                                  through an affiliate program and corresponding disbursements to participants
                                  Defendant?s affiliate program on an individual basis, including copies
                                  recently deposited check for each such participant paid by check;? ? The rest of us.
                                  That part of it was ALL affiliates - not just people that were doing emails - and is the part where they gave up all of their WMs
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                                  • eroswebmaster
                                    March 1st, 2003
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 20295

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                    bangbros.com Inc = bangbros thats all you need to know

                                    "Well, no shit!"

                                    poking fun at bangbros audio mouseover.
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                                    • Rinaldo
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                                      • Sep 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Wow the link is a long read

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                                      • High Plains Drifter
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                        BangBros.com Inc, RK NetMedia Inc, Ox Ideas, Inc
                                        http://www.bangbrosonline.com
                                        http://www.nastydollars.com
                                        http://www.oxcash.com

                                        APC Entertainment Inc
                                        www.adultplayersclub.com

                                        Pure Marketing Solutions LLC
                                        http://www.purecash.com

                                        MD Media
                                        http://www.pimproll.com (aka ARS)

                                        Not sure..
                                        Internet Matrix Technology
                                        Nice... here's the info on Internet Matrix Technology:

                                        "Defendant IMT is one of the webmasters that participates in Pure Marketing?saffiliate program. IMT also participates in other, similar affiliate programs. 10. IMT advertises and promotes Pure Marketing?s web sites through widelydistributed commercial emailmessages that contain sexuallyexplicit pictures or text. Sinceatleast August 17, 2004, Defendant IMT hasmailed numerous email messagesthat advertiseand promote Pure Marketing?s commercial web sites to computers used in interstate orforeign commerce and communication."

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                                        • TheDoc
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                                          • Jul 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by skinnywussy
                                          Nice... here's the info on Internet Matrix Technology:

                                          "Defendant IMT is one of the webmasters that participates in Pure Marketing?saffiliate program. IMT also participates in other, similar affiliate programs. 10. IMT advertises and promotes Pure Marketing?s web sites through widelydistributed commercial emailmessages that contain sexuallyexplicit pictures or text. Sinceatleast August 17, 2004, Defendant IMT hasmailed numerous email messagesthat advertiseand promote Pure Marketing?s commercial web sites to computers used in interstate orforeign commerce and communication."

                                          This sounds like the company that pointed the finger.
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                                          • p1mpdogg
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                                            • Nov 2002
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                                            #22
                                            glad i dont mail anymore, bangbros would have ruined my life

                                            RIP bangbros

                                            cocksuckers
                                            lol

                                            die bitches.. p.s. i <3 pipecrew
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                                            • OldSchoolJim
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                                              • Nov 2004
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                                              #23
                                              There will be a TON of irs fallout from this....this is how they will tie everything together....you are talking about a list of ALL affiliates of some pretty big proggies...AND COPIES OF THEIR LAST PAYMENTS!

                                              Which may mean cancelled checks which have the individuals bank account #'s on them.....pretty easy to follow that info......bad times for the larger affiliates who promoted these programs......

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                                              • Theo
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                                                • May 2001
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                                                #24
                                                they are not the only one that did that. This started 3 years ago.

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                                                • Tanker
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                                                  #25
                                                  Wow is all I can say

                                                  Glad I dont do biz with any of them

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                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                    • Jul 2001
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                                                    #26
                                                    Knowing this is ROUND 1 kinda worries me.. The FTC IS going after more companies, which means more information, more settlements, etc.. I wonder who is next to fight?
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                                                    • xxxice
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                                                      #27
                                                      So free email programs are done i take it ?

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                                                      • TheDoc
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 2getit
                                                        There will be a TON of irs fallout from this....this is how they will tie everything together....you are talking about a list of ALL affiliates of some pretty big proggies...AND COPIES OF THEIR LAST PAYMENTS!

                                                        Which may mean cancelled checks which have the individuals bank account #'s on them.....pretty easy to follow that info......bad times for the larger affiliates who promoted these programs......

                                                        I pay my company taxes on every dime I earn so I'm not worried.. Check, Wires, Epassport Payments, etc.. But I guess I can see were some webmasters should be worried. I do know of a few "smaller" guys that just pocket the money.. Looks like the IRS will be busy.
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                                                        • Theo
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                                                          • May 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          hey tanker, did you receive my email?

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                                                          • p1mpdogg
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                                                            • Nov 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            glad i have paid my taxes the last 5 years lol

                                                            sucks that i pay so much though..


                                                            Dear president bush... will you please give better tax breaks to the rich and fuck the poor more?

                                                            thanks
                                                            trey
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                                                            • bigdog
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                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Who is considered a mailer though? If you have a guy who has some little opt in list doing 3 joins a day was his info given up also

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                                                              • Manowar
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                                                                #32
                                                                dayum :/

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                                                                • woj
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  sucks to be a mailer promoting those companies...
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                                                                  • bigdog
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    who is tj web productions?

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                                                                    • OldSchoolJim
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I pay my company taxes on every dime I earn so I'm not worried
                                                                      This is a common quote...but my accountant tells me...they can ALWAYS find something.....i do not know many folks who come through an audit totally unscathed.....maybe an auto lease mis-represented....maybe some entertainment over exempted...something is ALWAYS there......the drama of just sitting through an audit is enough to make you sick....

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                                                                      • WiredGuy
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                                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        I'm not particularly worried. So the FTC has my address now, big deal. I'm not in violation of any 2257's, I don't mail and I'm paying my taxes. The IRS had this information anyways, so if there was any actions the FTC wanted to pursue, it just took a court order to the IRS to release it. They just simplified the process as far as I'm concerned.
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                                                                          • WiredGuy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by 2getit
                                                                            This is a common quote...but my accountant tells me...they can ALWAYS find something.....i do not know many folks who come through an audit totally unscathed.....maybe an auto lease mis-represented....maybe some entertainment over exempted...something is ALWAYS there......the drama of just sitting through an audit is enough to make you sick....
                                                                            Yup, I went through a 2 year federal investigation. Clean as could be. Had 2 accounting errors (we admitted to and paid for it), and too many business expenses related to travel. I thought they were all legit but hey, they'll find something to justify their time. It's not something I want to relive anytime soon.
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                                                                            • SomeCreep
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                              who is tj web productions?
                                                                              adultpaymaster

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                                                                              • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                • Nov 2002
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                p.s. Mr Bush, please pardon ALL my relatives for doing bad things. they didnt mean it.
                                                                                thanks again
                                                                                trey
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                                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I think the mailers are the only ones who have anything to worry about. Afterall, they are the reason for this whole FTC complaint. So the government has all our info now? Well if you live in the US and pay taxes, the government already has all your info anyways.

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                                                                                  • After Shock Media
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                    Yup, I went through a 2 year federal investigation. Clean as could be. Had 2 accounting errors (we admitted to and paid for it), and too many business expenses related to travel. I thought they were all legit but hey, they'll find something to justify their time. It's not something I want to relive anytime soon.
                                                                                    WG
                                                                                    Been through an audit myself as well that lasted over a year. Learned real quick that tax law is a lot like California's OSHA saftey laws. If you comply with all of them you are bound to be breaking some of them. Ended up with a few small penalties, a years worth of headaches and some big bills for a tax attorney.

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                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      glad i never promoted them, even if i never mailed.
                                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                      • PR_Dave
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by TheDoc

                                                                                        MD Media
                                                                                        http://www.pimproll.com (aka ARS)
                                                                                        This alone shows just how much of a giant TOOL you are LOL.
                                                                                        What does aka ARS mean? Do I own ARS too? You are a joke.

                                                                                        You must be a massive mailer to have made this thread in the first place.

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                                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                          This alone shows just how much of a giant TOOL you are LOL.
                                                                                          What does aka ARS mean? Do I own ARS too? You are a joke.

                                                                                          You must be a massive mailer to have made this thread in the first place.
                                                                                          Hmmm...as big as a tool who sells out his affiliates?
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                                                                                          • PR_Dave
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                            Hmmm...as big as a tool who sells out his affiliates?
                                                                                            No PR affiliates were sold out.

                                                                                            Can't speak for the other companies though.

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                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 20295

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                              No PR affiliates were sold out.

                                                                                              Can't speak for the other companies though.
                                                                                              doesn't look like it by the terms presented on that page.
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                                                                                              • Theo
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                so let me ask you something

                                                                                                FTC will start an investigation on your company,it will request the info of your mailers and you won't pass them? yeah right
                                                                                                If you mailed in the past most likely FTC has already your info from past investigated companies.

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                                                                                                • PR_Dave
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                                  doesn't look like it by the terms presented on that page.
                                                                                                  Except that we eliminated mail from our program 6 months prior and had no active mailers in our program.

                                                                                                  Many of the other companies are still accpeting mail.

                                                                                                  We do not.

                                                                                                  Like I said I can't say what others did.

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                                                                                                  • Machete_
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                                    keep on believing that.

                                                                                                    tell us what it was like to be served by the ftc or the fbi or whoever does what they do to spammers. blanket prosecution, are you familiar with that?

                                                                                                    its when they throw out a big net and real everyone in... then they ask questions later.

                                                                                                    good luck!
                                                                                                    I have been contacted twice, but since we keep our stuff legal and clean - we dont have any problems. but I can see why it would scare a lot of people in the gray zone

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