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  • OzKaNoz
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 1834

    #101
    Andy
    Thanks for coming up with such a great idea.

    Heinrich
    The idea is to get rid a lot of the free porn. Once this spreads and more Tgps and gallery submitters support it, the free loading surfers won't have a choice if they want porn! They will surf Tgp2 and will be more likely to pull out that cc card.

    I do think we need to get sponcers behind this.
    After all we're going to make a lot more money.

    TGP webmasters, give TGP2 a try!

    Gallery makers, the same for you. Start making TGP2 types of galleries and submit them.

    Thanks
    Oz


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    • harvey
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2001
      • 9266

      #102
      Well, I made a page for TGP owners and gallery posters at http://www.getteen.com/tgp2webmasters.html
      That's the page to be listed, or if you're damn too lazy, go to http://www.getteen.com/tgp2sites.htm for some sites to post or to http://www.getteen.com/tgp2galleries.htm for some galleries

      btw, I expected a little more, I hope thois don't die in a day

      Peace

      Harvey
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      • Andy
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 460

        #103
        I don't know if it's die or not
        but I do accept this kind of galleries
        I am sure gallery makers like it but don't know if many TGPs are going to accept this
        Like I said before .. we have to start somewhere , so be patient, more will come
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        • wolfshade
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2001
          • 847

          #104
          There are more believe me I received a lot of responce from TGP owners either building a special TGP2 or converting their TGP to TGP2

          Personaly I will convert action porn tgp but I think i will open some new niche specific ones also.

          We're going to make this work!


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          • OzKaNoz
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 1834

            #105



            Oz
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            • whitetrash
              Registered User
              • Jul 2001
              • 16

              #106
              There are sites like this out there already.
              They are called pic posts..
              (i.e picpost.com)

              What do you think the surfer will think about this? "Fuck this, I´m going to TheHun - He gives it all away for free"

              No I don´t think this is a good idea

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              • Andy
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 460

                #107
                picspost are a bit different
                the give surfer just one big pic usually linked to sponsor or so ..
                this is like a gallery but without ( or with only 5 ) pics .. man if this is not gonna work then I don't know what

                wolf,
                post the url of "official" page with TGPs so we can start it
                by the way what about the movie galleries ?
                just 2 downloable movies or what ?
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                • Kat - Fast
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 2303

                  #108
                  Originally posted by whitetrash:
                  What do you think the surfer will think about this? "Fuck this, I´m going to TheHun - He gives it all away for free"

                  No I don´t think this is a good idea
                  I asked around a few of my mates and some guys i work with - NONE of them had ever heard of the Hun - all these guys surf porn, all have had a pc for over 6 months, all of them have credit cards.
                  They have now all heard of the Hun - oops!

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                  • whitetrash
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 16

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Kat:
                    I asked around a few of my mates and some guys i work with - NONE of them had ever heard of the Hun - all these guys surf porn, all have had a pc for over 6 months, all of them have credit cards.
                    They have now all heard of the Hun - oops!


                    And know they will never use the creditcards again..

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                    • Andy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 460

                      #110
                      yep,
                      not all srufers know hun ... and they can't get everything free there .. yeah he lists many galleries .. but there're ads on each and every and even hun's traffic converts ... it converts very well too .. and Hun will go TGP2 way too hehe
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                      • DamageX
                        Marketing & Strategy
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 14293

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Andy:
                        yep,
                        not all srufers know hun ... and they can't get everything free there .. yeah he lists many galleries .. but there're ads on each and every and even hun's traffic converts ... it converts very well too .. and Hun will go TGP2 way too hehe
                        Actually I doubt it The Hun will go TGP2. he's protecting his surfers harder than animal protection activists protect stray dogs... But there are SHITLOADS of other surfers we can get to our sites. I also suggest networking our sites together, alongside the trades, to get higher linkpop, this way we'd be getting more newbie surfers from SE's.


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                        • TheZ
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 2

                          #112
                          I'll join this new idea, my site xxx-heat.com haven't had that much success (perhaos because i haven't worked so hard )
                          i'm about to make a shitload of theese new age galleries, and i'll post em later when done!

                          Someone talked about making a multi submitter like TGSW (or what its called) I could help out designing such an application - i know my way araoud PHP and MySQL...

                          regards
                          TheZ
                          ICQ: 44547912

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                          • Big Ben
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 62

                            #113
                            My Opinion!
                            Good idea! But, Get Real!
                            This tgp2 idea don't have a chance against the current tgp's! In a sec I'll tell you why.
                            All of the webmasters soon or later realize that in the adult bizz you must fight 2 main fronts:
                            1-Against surfers.
                            2-Against other webmasters (tgp's owners against submitters).
                            Also webmaster/sponsor but that's other story.

                            If the idea don't gives a shit about surfers or other webmasters it will soon die. What are you trying to do here is fuck the surfer big time! You think that the surfers stupid? In the place of the surfer when I realize that this tgp just gives first 5 full sized thumbs I would quickly push the x button and go to tgp that gives all for free!

                            You're trying to bite the hand you're eating from. But I totally agree that giving the surfer 100% is very bad for the industry!All of the idea of free porn started from competition between webmasters over traffic, and the surfers got more and more (now they getting even movies for free. Hell what next? Live Feeds?).

                            The only reasonable combination will be it to keep it fair for all of the parts.

                            It surely will be hard to take from surfers something that they already have. 100% Free Porn. I don't say it can't be done, I think the best chance is to cut their breath in one move. But for that we will need good cooperation between webmasters.

                            We(webmasters) will need a whole new concept that will compete the old system. So it must be better for webmasters from all of the sides the surfers don't have the real choice here I doubt they will stop surfing porn hehe

                            So here is my suggestions:
                            1- ratio of clickable thumbs/non clickable. Must be 50/50. Ie. 15 thumbs gallery first 7 clickable, 30 then the first 15 clickable. You must give them something otherwise they'll go to tgp that gives them 30 thumbs all clickable. We will be able to lower the ratio to 1/3 once the idea catches up. Anyway all of the real action in the second part of series pictures gallery's! Also no small thumbs so the surfer can see the rest and not click hehehehe I'm cruel

                            2-We must increase the cooperation between the submitting webmasters and tgp owners. Each side MUST think of other side too! We all in this together (trying to make as much as possible from the surfers). On the submit pages the tgp will get 2 good links(as you would put for you're sponsor) to their sponsor, one at the top and one in the bottom so it will be in his interest to send you some traffic and change to tgp2. Also would be a good idea to put them more links the bigger the gallery. Help them make money and they will help you!!!

                            3-NO html pages on thumbs!(at least not at first) Just imagine checking all those pic pages?

                            4-Resips only to tgp2!

                            5-All of the categories.

                            Also I don't see big tgp's posting here.
                            I think that the small ones can start with the idea right away but the big ones will have to wait and join later on all in once to cut the surfers throat and so they will not be able to find it on other big tgp. In my opinion that will give a FUCKIN big Boost to the industry with offering the surfers just 1/2 for free!


                            This post become too long whooooo.
                            Why it always 2 cents? Why not 3?

                            Cheers,
                            Big Ben.

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                            • DamageX
                              Marketing & Strategy
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 14293

                              #114
                              Big Ben

                              You are right, but only assuming we would concentrate on the existing surfers. If we concentrated on networking sites together and growing in linkpop, then we'd receive more SE hits, thus targetting more newbies. And newbies are not spoiled with all the free porn yet. Hell, it took me several years to get a grasp of the TGP idea and that was first when I went into this biz. There are CJ sites out there with no content at all, getting shitloads of hits and making good bucks. If we put all our efforts into targetting SE traffic and newbies, then we shouldn't worry about them going to other TGP's, hell, we might even build up some good bookmark traffic!

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                              • SonOfRage
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 632

                                #115
                                Originally posted by whitetrash:

                                And know they will never use the creditcards again..

                                You really must be white trash.

                                Where the fuck did you learn to spell?

                                It's "now" not "know" Didn't they teach that to you in the trailer trash home school system?

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                                • TheZ
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 2

                                  #116
                                  Would it be possible for onyone to setup a board, or a new forum for TGP2 webmasters/websites where wh can share ideas and discuss the rules and all that? I have a pretty hard time keeping up with the different threds spread all over the GFY board...

                                  regards
                                  TheZ
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                                  • Cadbury
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 6

                                    #117
                                    I just caught this/these threads this evening, wavered, then took action. My FSG (Free Sex Galleries) page is ready to go, and all I nedd to complete is to verify my TGPM functionality and populate the site with Free Sex Galleries and link trades - Catchy Name???

                                    Worse case scenerio - it becomes another feature page on one of my sites. If it flys, it becomes a traffic generator.

                                    Back to work.

                                    Cad

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                                    • Cncr
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 261

                                      #118
                                      People, I'm happy to say I'm seeing the first results of TGP2. My gallery got yesterday the best click-through ratio that I've ever seen with my galleries. And that ratio was 1/8. For every 8 visitors 1 clicked the sponsors link.
                                      http://www.nasty-porn.net/galleries/27072001/

                                      This is getting more & more interesting...

                                      Cncr
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                                      • wolfshade
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 847

                                        #119
                                        Great! this is the first proof of more productive traffic

                                        A TGP2 BBS is in teh works guys I'm installing a UBB for it

                                        I'm working on all sides here so gimme a little time of day and I will set it all up for you

                                        Wolfshade


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                                        • Naughty
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6484

                                          #120
                                          We are also converting our old tgp into the new tgp2 standard. Good time to change scripts as well

                                          We might be/are the first celeb tgp2 site!

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                                          • Andy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 460

                                            #121
                                            exactly Cncr,
                                            this is a proof we can get much more to sponser with very low traffic to gallery , which means lower bandwidth bills and bigger $$$ in the pocket
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                                            • Carl
                                              Registered User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 3

                                              #122
                                              I just returned from holidays and must say that this TGP2 idea looks great.

                                              I'm planning to build a public webmaster page, containing links to TGP2 submission pages. This will make it easier for gallery owners to submit and TGP2 owners to get gallery submissions.

                                              Just send me a mail at [email protected]

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                                              • Naughty
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 6484

                                                #123
                                                Carl,

                                                you obviously have some catching up to do.. http://www.action-porn.com/cgi-bin/ubb2/Ultimate.cgi

                                                We're happy to see you there if you have any questions. Would be a better place to discuss tgp2.

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                                                • Carl
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 3

                                                  #124
                                                  Whoops - sorry 'bout that... I visited the action-porn BB but got server connection errors after reading two topics or so; maybe the box was restarting ?
                                                  Anyway, it's accessible again now and I think I'll spend some hours going through it
                                                  Thanks !
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                                                  • Pete
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 6617

                                                    #125
                                                    Great Idea! Everyone would make a lot more money this way. You might want to consider allowing the thumbnail to be linked to an html page where the full size version of the image is as well as a banner on the top and perhaps some text leading to the sponsor under it.
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                                                    • ADL Colin
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 11929

                                                      #126
                                                      I'll convert one of my TGPs to TGP2 (a little more than 10k/day)

                                                      Details here .. http://www.morepornpics.com/webmasters/tgp2.html

                                                      more later?


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                                                      • Xanobyte
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 328

                                                        #127
                                                        Most excellent thread.

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                                                        • BobTheGimp
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 5

                                                          #128
                                                          ok sure why not

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                                                          • kodek
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52

                                                            #129
                                                            So, any feedback from the "big guys"?
                                                            I heard the Hun like the idea ;-) but can't find the exact thread (search doesn't work).

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                                                            • mariuz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 134

                                                              #130
                                                              Thehun likes the idea?

                                                              that would be cool.

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                                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 40377

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by mariuz
                                                                Thehun likes the idea?

                                                                that would be cool.
                                                                i dont think he likes it :/
                                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 59204

                                                                  #132
                                                                  WARNING 3 YEAR OLD THREAD DO NOT REPLY

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                                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 40377

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by kodek
                                                                    So, any feedback from the "big guys"?
                                                                    I heard the Hun like the idea ;-) but can't find the exact thread (search doesn't work).
                                                                    lol, search didnt work back then in 2001
                                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                    • Quotealex
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 6265

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                      WARNING 3 YEAR OLD THREAD DO NOT REPLY
                                                                      In a few days, it will be 4 years

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                                                                      • Thumbler
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                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                        • 4076

                                                                        #135
                                                                        I've seen some old threads bumped in my time but this is ridiculous!

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                                                                        • Tuga
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 7678

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Damn, when I read the first post I actually liked the idea.

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                                                                          • Quotealex
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 6265

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Happy Birthday Tgp2

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                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 40377

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                                                              Happy Birthday Tgp2
                                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                              • KATO
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                • 647

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Andy
                                                                                Read lots of stuff about too much free porn, low coversions etc...
                                                                                I also think TGPs are givin away too much free porn
                                                                                I tell you what ... I list your galleries ( maximum of 15 thumbnails ) and the thumbnails MUST NOT be linked to big pics ... they mustn't be linked anywhere ...
                                                                                I just require series and paid hosting
                                                                                - bandwith would be minimal
                                                                                - click % to sponsor is about 10% even with a very clean gallery

                                                                                yep I run a TGP and I wanna galleries like this cause we all wanna make few bux

                                                                                this kind of galleries should work really as pages that sell something, not just free pix for our surfers

                                                                                interrested ? let me know
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                                                                                I preffer ICQ ( getting bombed with virus emails so I am not using my email much just deleting stuff

                                                                                if more TGPs would do this it'll be super for whole industry

                                                                                post your questions, comments or something you have to say about this
                                                                                This idea isn`t really new.
                                                                                We use it since a long time. Some of our TGP`s haven`t more than 5 pics per gallery and not resizable. Each pic is linked direct to the paysite. In this case we can send much more sales to other sponsors then normal galleries. TGP`s are not the best way to generate sales. Link lists are the best in my mind. But this is a good way btw.

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                                                                                • nofx
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 16826

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  LOL so old

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                                                                                  • Zester
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                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 5344

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    the idea was/is great.
                                                                                    I wonder where the guys who came up with it are today
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                                                                                    • Zester
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                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 5344

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                      WARNING 3 YEAR OLD THREAD DO NOT REPLY
                                                                                      ....ooops.....didn't know it's that old
                                                                                      5 years damn
                                                                                      Last edited by Zester; 02-12-2006, 01:21 AM.
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                                                                                      • beta-tester
                                                                                        Rock 'n Roll Baby!
                                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                                        • 22562

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        wow, this shit is old like a Bible
                                                                                        Btw. the idea is great....while I was reading the first page it came to my mind that this stuff would be cool if we start doing it...

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                                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 14293

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by Zester
                                                                                          the idea was/is great.
                                                                                          I wonder where the guys who came up with it are today
                                                                                          Most of them are out of business. Only a few left. Check the nicks, see if any of them is still around.
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                                                                                          • Zester
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                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 5344

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by beta-tester
                                                                                            wow, this shit is old like a Bible
                                                                                            Btw. the idea is great....while I was reading the first page it came to my mind that this stuff would be cool if we start doing it...
                                                                                            there has to be a few things we can do that are similar to the concept of these ideas but differ in the method to accomplish them which will give us the same result: using each other to make this industry make it's webmasters a lot more money.
                                                                                            or is every GFY'er to much of an eggo maniac to think more than 6 months ahead?
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                                                                                            • Silent_Thunder
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                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 5258

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              How this could work???
                                                                                              You imagine all the TGPs owners signing some type of agreement? It's impossible for such a huge industry.

                                                                                              In theory the amount of free content will reach the quantity and quality as at paysites.

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                                                                                              • tgpmakers
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                                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                                • 575

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Damn 5 years old I started reading it thinking wow this is a bloody good idea. Then thinking this is tgp2 which never really took off which means people got greedy with giving away free porn and so the place where the most porn was always getting more hits, take thehun for instance. This is a good stuck in time and we can't do shit all about it.
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                                                                                                • kostas
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                                  • 616

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Hi guys
                                                                                                  I 'm new here but I AM IN. I'll post those galleries, profitable or not. If we do not loose something (I mean all of us) we can't change anything. Somehow we must convince paysite owners to stop feeding for free the surfers. This type galleries are teasing not feeding. I am 100% sure that are the solution for that big problem.

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                                                                                                  • Trixxxia
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                    • 5600

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Whoa...timewarp!

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                                                                                                    • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 3765

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      funny that an idea this "old" still has people saying 'YO LETS DO IT!"

                                                                                                      ...if we could sonehow replace the word "traffic" with "conversions" in peoples minds we'd be on our way
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