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I'd say that about summed the whole thing up perfectly RobertOriginally posted by TheLegacyI am not debating that he deserves is money, and I do commend him for his patience on this whole issue. why Lee isnt doing anything I feel is that he knows something that few on GFY dont - the adult world does not revolve around this board.
Someone can post something negative about you on this board, and if you dont respond to it, then chances are as Lee knows - it wont have an impact on your business as much as most of gfy'ers would like to think. I hate to make this wake up call, but many are either non industry people or those that are keyboard warriors that dont have an impact on the adult world as a whole - and surprisingly to some - many actually make a living and survive for years without even posting on GFY. I speak to hundreds of webmasters a month that never even heard of this board much less the drama that comes down here.
Lets face it - Lee's main source of income is from the gay community - few of which visit this board, many of whom dont really pay much attention to the drama on here.
If it is truly owed then I want to see Blue get their money - but sadly and honestly - it is not going to come from posting on one board that is viewed mostly by who dont have anything to do with the gay industry at all. So how is this going to bother? much less force lee to do anything about it?
People still dont seem to understand that though
Regards,
LeeComment
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lee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows
so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?
surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?Comment
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Dude, this is GFY.Originally posted by BlueDesignStudioslee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows
so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?
surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?
When are you going to understand that?
I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are
If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.
Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light
Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.
Regards,
LeeComment
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Originally posted by European LeeDude, this is GFY.
When are you going to understand that?
I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are
If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.
Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light
Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.
Regards,
Lee
Lets see...
You are posting while 90% of GFY agrees you're in the wrong.. I am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.
But not paying a bill is a serious matter. I don't get why you just don't admit you're wrong (you seem to have managed this bit), pay the bill (to a charity cos I don't want your money) - and move onComment
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As the truth about this whole issue emerges....Originally posted by BlueDesignStudiosI am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.
I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right
Regards,
LeeComment
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http://www.hookedonphonics.comOriginally posted by brand0nbecouse lien cheating scammers dont pay debts.
Might be of some use to you bud
Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?
Regards,
LeeComment
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Actually no Lee i'm not doing this for new business, the reason we're here is because you never paid your design billOriginally posted by European LeeAs the truth about this whole issue emerges....
I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right
Regards,
LeeComment
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lol best you can do cocksucker?Originally posted by European Leehttp://www.hookedonphonics.com
Might be of some use to you bud
Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?
Regards,
Lee
pay your bills theif.want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.Comment
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Unless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.
Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.
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Thanks to everyone who has voted - Even though Lee said yesterday that he would pay for the design based on the opinions of GFY, it seems he's going back on his word (again) - even when I'm offering to pay any money received to a charity, Lee still isn't interested in resolving the issue.Comment
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I dont have an employer, i am an employerOriginally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDudeUnless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.
Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.
ADG Webmaster
Regards,
LeeComment
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You're not an employer...You're a faggot.Originally posted by European LeeI dont have an employer, i am an employer
Regards,
Lee
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Originally posted by ticalWow
Lee you're a piece of shit
That's a neat little summary for those who don't have time to read all the shit that comes out of lee's mouthComment
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This totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..
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At least that's one positive to come out of this.Originally posted by RyuLionThis totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..
Though Lee should still pay for the design - I have nothing to gain from this since I'm putting it to charity - it's a matter of principleComment
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don't you work for your boyfriend? i could have sworn you were his bottom bitch turned employee.Originally posted by European LeeI dont have an employer, i am an employer
Regards,
Leeself made mothafucka.
buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.comComment
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Lee has caused some much drama out of this, I'd like to see something good come from the situation - donating it to charity seems like the right thing to doOriginally posted by nico-twhy are u giving it to charity? If i did a job for someone i would want the damn cash myself!Comment
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Originally posted by V_RocKsWow.. DOUBLE WOW!!
I expected the votes to be a little closer than that... DAMN!
keep in mind that 3 of lee's votes were done by mistake.Comment
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$ telnet www.bluedesignstudios.com 80Originally posted by European LeeAndrew, seriously, where did that layout come from?
How comes i have never seen it until today?
Regards,
Lee
Trying 66.154.73.50...
Connected to bluedesignstudios.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /hp/lee/european_webmasters/3/main.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bluedesignstudios.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:34 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:55:46 GMT
ETag: "3ec2b3-15b6-40c49002"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 5558
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/htmlComment
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I checked and saw Gary Alan listed as President, and Lee Windsor as COO. In any case, this makes your lack of business ethics even more appalling.Originally posted by European LeeI dont have an employer, i am an employer
Regards,
Lee
A wise business person would have paid up and used the design or written off the loss a long time ago. Instead you have brought shame and ridicule upon yourself and your business.
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What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.Comment
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Don't worry about it Andrew what goes around comes around and BS artist Lee will get his day.Comment
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Good questionOriginally posted by clickhappyWhat's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.Comment
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Originally posted by clickhappyWhat's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.
I know GaryAlan very well - he trusts Lee with a great deal on their company and would likely repeat what was said here before. Its GFY, has no impact whatsoever on the gay industry and threads like this are never taken seriously.
How many of you are gay who are going to stop working with GaryAlan or Lee over this?? not too many.. more like NONE. Niether one of them care what happens on GFY since the board is not taken seriously within the adult community but instead is looked at as a tabloid in the supermarket. As much as I would like to see this resolved, hasnt anyone caught onto the idea that GFY is not the center of the adult business world nor is it taken seriously? Posting shit here results threatening and "owning" someone gets at best a giggle when told where it was found.
In short, GaryAlan is not caring at all what is written on GFY, never had, never will - its not affecting his clients or business in the least. Unless everyone here is planning on posting on gay boards and the more serious webmaster boards out there- this is a lost cause.Comment
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send him to collections and drop it, you could have made $550 100 times while wasting your time with this asshatComment
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telnetowned?Originally posted by swedguy$ telnet www.bluedesignstudios.com 80
Trying 66.154.73.50...
Connected to bluedesignstudios.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /hp/lee/european_webmasters/3/main.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bluedesignstudios.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:34 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:55:46 GMT
ETag: "3ec2b3-15b6-40c49002"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 5558
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
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at least someone has a little bit of intelligence in this threadOriginally posted by TheLegacyhasnt anyone caught onto the idea that GFY is not the center of the adult business world nor is it taken seriously? Posting shit here results threatening and "owning" someone gets at best a giggle when told where it was found
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Those designs look damn nice to me..Originally posted by BlueDesignStudiosLee has repeatedly said that he would pay his design bill based on the comments and opinions of GFY. This is a shameful way to do business and sets a dangerous precedent for designers, where clients can avoid paying design bills for two years and then only pay based on the opinion of those on GFY.
So here it is folks - the vote that Lee wanted so badly.
You are voting for the side you believe IS IN THE RIGHT:
European Lee: Ordered a design two years ago, said they were PERFECT & DONE, then never paid, claims he would pay the invoice, then he said he wouldn't, then a hurricane occurred preventing Lee from responding to my emails for 1+ year. Now he claims he is unhappy with the design itself (though his email history from last year indicates he was VERY HAPPY with the design). Lee has publicly stated he will pay up based on the opinions of GFY, and claims he shouldn't have to pay for a design he doesn't like (even if it's taken him two years to reach that conclusion)
BlueDesignStudios: Designed Lee's site to meet all of lee's specifications and criteria, lee was admittedly very happy with the design at the time. Since then, have spent much time chasing lee up for payment for the design, putting up with a range of new excuses for why he will or won't pay. Have never received a penny for the site that met all of lee's criteria.
Ok and here is what's up for grabs:
European Lee wins: lee does not have to pay for the design, and the subject will not be raised again (unless lee brings it up again)
Blue Design Studios wins: We don't want lee's money, it's a matter of principle. We request that payment for the design goes to our designated charity, Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
We are hopeful that some good will come out of this situation. Lee is without a doubt the lowest form of life we have encountered in the adult industry.Comment
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thanks, Lee said he liked them too & that they were perfectOriginally posted by 2257-BenThose designs look damn nice to me..
but for some reason a couple of years later when i'm following him up for payment he's had a change of heartComment
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don't you want to vote for yourself lee? or do you accept you fucked up on this one?Comment
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Bump for leeComment
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apparently not lee anymore - he's been rather quite as the poll has progressed.. you only have to take a quick glance at it to see why!Originally posted by pornpf69dont we all love some drrama?
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It's not about taking sides anymore, its about a reality..
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