BREAKING NEWS: Blue Design Studios Updates Their Portfolio

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  • European Lee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7133

    #101
    Originally posted by Brujah
    The drama after the fact is really too bad. Kiss and make up!
    Agreed.

    It really is to bad, for Andrew, perhaps he should have thought about the repercussions of his actions prior to posting initially

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    • BlueDesignStudios
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      • Feb 2003
      • 9492

      #102
      Originally posted by European Lee
      Agreed.

      It really is to bad, for Andrew, perhaps he should have thought about the repercussions of his actions prior to posting initially

      Regards,

      Lee
      what did i post?

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      • BlueDesignStudios
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        • Feb 2003
        • 9492

        #103
        Originally posted by Brujah
        Lee may have been trying to communicate
        No, Lee wasn't communicating, he was ignoring all my emails and icq's regarding the design

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        • European Lee
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          • Dec 2002
          • 7133

          #104
          Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
          No, Lee wasn't communicating, he was ignoring all my emails and icq's regarding the design
          Hang on, if that was the case, where did you get that list of changes from?

          Please think of a lie and stick to it, its not hard to do

          Regards,

          Lee
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          • Relish XXX
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2004
            • 4904

            #105
            I think it has done the world of good for BDS.There portfolio is now being viewing by hundreds of potential customers.

            Can you also please note Lee that I dont appreciate you quoting me out of context.

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            • BlueDesignStudios
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2003
              • 9492

              #106
              what are these reprecussions you speak of? All I'm getting is support & praise from people - your attempt to run a smear campaign has backfired because each time you come up with a new excuse not to pay it just doesn't hold water

              at least choose one excuse and stick with that

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              • BlueDesignStudios
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                • Feb 2003
                • 9492

                #107
                oh one more thing lee.. in future please leave the 'blue design studios portfolio update' threads to the experts.

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                • graphicsbytia
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2618

                  #108
                  Andrew, I really like your work.. but I like the way you've handled this situation even more

                  Lee is a nightmare customer, we all have them.. they give you direction (15 re-dos is a lot though.. lol) .. then they complain that they don't like it.. go figure

                  Are you open to doing some outsourcing work for me? I am too busy with content to do any designing anymore.. besides.. my designing skills aren't as good as I'd like.. doesn't stop people from coming to me though.. lol

                  hit me up if you're interested

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                  • Relish XXX
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 4904

                    #109
                    Andrew, if it wasnt for the fact that I am partners with Quashe we would use you for work.

                    Personally I am siding with you.

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                    • BlueDesignStudios
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 9492

                      #110
                      Originally posted by European Lee
                      Hang on, if that was the case, where did you get that list of changes from?

                      Please think of a lie and stick to it, its not hard to do

                      Regards,

                      Lee
                      You emailed me those changes in roughly Feb 04, and since then I have spent over one year trying to contact you back - I can count roughly 60 un-answered emails and 20+ unanswered ICQ msgs

                      Am I telling the truth or are you lying?

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                      • BlueDesignStudios
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 9492

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Relish XXX
                        Andrew, if it wasnt for the fact that I am partners with Quashe we would use you for work.

                        Personally I am siding with you.
                        Thanks, I appreciate it

                        Though, any designer who sides with Lee is basically saying it's ok for clients to bring their unpaid projects to GFY 2 years later & decide to pay based on a few out of context comments from people

                        I don't know anyone who does business like this, it's so unprofessional that I can't believe there are still such people out there.

                        I thought Lee was a nice guy initially - boy did I make a bad judgement on his character!

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                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 9492

                          #112
                          Originally posted by graphicsbytia
                          Andrew, I really like your work.. but I like the way you've handled this situation even more

                          Lee is a nightmare customer, we all have them.. they give you direction (15 re-dos is a lot though.. lol) .. then they complain that they don't like it.. go figure

                          Are you open to doing some outsourcing work for me? I am too busy with content to do any designing anymore.. besides.. my designing skills aren't as good as I'd like.. doesn't stop people from coming to me though.. lol

                          hit me up if you're interested

                          Thanks Tia - Lee is definitely the customer from hell - never paid a cent, doesn't respond to emails or icq's - I dont' get how you can complain if you never paid for a design!!

                          I like your work, whenever we're too busy and need to turn away clients I will be sure to send them your way

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                          • graphicsbytia
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2618

                            #113
                            Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                            Thanks Tia - Lee is definitely the customer from hell - never paid a cent, doesn't respond to emails or icq's - I dont' get how you can complain if you never paid for a design!!

                            I like your work, whenever we're too busy and need to turn away clients I will be sure to send them your way
                            Nooo!... don't send them to me.. I want to send YOU some..I'm way too busy to be designing

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                            • BlueDesignStudios
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 9492

                              #114
                              Originally posted by graphicsbytia
                              Nooo!... don't send them to me.. I want to send YOU some..I'm way too busy to be designing
                              oh LOL my bad.. that is a very generous offer, if you do get too busy you can send them our way, and we will do likewise

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                              • BlueDesignStudios
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 9492

                                #115
                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                There is a professional trade organization in the graphic design field called AIGA (The American Institute of Graphic Artists), which represents over 15,000 accredited professional graphic designers. The "total bullshit" (as you call it) position that I set forth is based upon AIGA's fair practice guidelines.

                                If you would like to learn about AIGA and fair design practices, their web site is www.AIGA.org - I have linked a section titled:
                                A Client's Guide to Design:
                                How to get the most out of the process
                                , which some of you may find beneficial to understand how the graphic design industry actually works (as opposed to how you wish it would work).

                                Several people obviously have a misconception about design services. In a perfect world, every client is 100% satisfied with every design. In the end, that doesn't always happen. The client is still liable for payment (that's why many professional firms charge 50% upfront to new clients).

                                I'm not interested in continuing to argue with anyone, especially if they refuse to take the time to understand how the design industry actually operates.

                                Since I don't see either party changing their position, I can only conclude that:

                                BDS did the work, and did not intend to rip-off European Webmasters (which in another point I made, still only exists in name...why is that?).

                                European Webmasters is guilty of contracting for a service which was performed, and refuses to pay for it.

                                If anyone has been ripped off, it's BDS.

                                ADG Webmaster
                                Fantastic post - you are spot on with this

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                                • bhutocracy
                                  Not making A Comeback
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 10218

                                  #116
                                  I think it's not bad at all. Don't forget it's not filled out with all the info.. if it had proper banners and all the content in it would look a lot more finished.. it's just a template atm and I don't mind it... also that it's not a paysite so of course it's going to lack the wow factor of a lot of their portfolio...

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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by European Lee
                                    I just found some of the 'revisions' too here ya go..

                                    http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp/.../main_eng.html

                                    for some reason the menu on this one looks like it should be on a page dedicated to pirates...the map and font remind me of pirates..no idea why..maybe chio the pirate designed it

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                                    • jonesy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 6688

                                      #118
                                      LEE

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                                      Shooting Bikini Girls

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                                      • BlueDesignStudios
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 9492

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                        for some reason the menu on this one looks like it should be on a page dedicated to pirates...the map and font remind me of pirates..no idea why..maybe chio the pirate designed it
                                        LOL it's what Lee asked for.. and he was very happy with it, he told us at the time we did a great job on the site funny when it comes to paying the bill for the site, he'll go back on his word..

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                                        • European Lee
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 7133

                                          #120
                                          Bump

                                          Regards,

                                          Lee
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                                          • BlueDesignStudios
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 9492

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by European Lee
                                            Bump

                                            Regards,

                                            Lee
                                            you really shouldn't start threads with misleading titles

                                            it should have been called 'my new excuse of why I don't want to pay up'

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