Premium WM Related Domain For Sale

$180

~Ray

Wow, sell when the goin's good, eh Lee? This is a great time for someone to snatch that one up.

(hee hee, I said snatch)

Indeed

Makes no sense for us to let the usability of the domain suffer, hopefully someone will snap it up within the next few days whilst the revenue streams are still viable for them.

This site made us a little over $50k in the last 12 months with next to no time spent on it so the potential for someone who wants to focus on the international market place is huge

Not to mention its been an established resource for almost 5 years

Regards,

Lee

great board name, and hopefully whoever buys it can make it more relevant to webmasters.

Lee, why do you think GFY has a sell/buy forum???

Take your shit here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35

isent xxxwebmasters.com a better name?

want to throw in the design we did for the site as well?

Sure why not

There you go people, you also get a design that everyone has seen courtesy of Blue Design Studios in addition to the domain and the existing design for the site which is all archived.

Mighty kind of you Andrew

Regards,

Lee

did you want to pay for the design first, or should I be throwing it in for free?

owned

this clown seems to get owned A LOT

10$

final offer

Haha that cracked me up. If I remember correctly, you guys did some other business with our friend Lee too and he didn't pay up on that project either, right? You have gay people and I respect them, but you are just simply being a queer Lee.

0WN3D!!

I thought the pink was appropriate

congrats on your 4k, doing it in style

Yeah that's right, Lee ordered the design from us about a year and a half ago. Still hasn't paid up and hasn't responded to any of my emails / icq's requesting payment.

Okay shitface, lets set the record straight here shall we?

Go back to January, where i had a long conversation with Wade on the convention floor, i even gave him my cell and office phone number, telling him to contact me once he got back where we could discuss the aspects of the design that quite frankly, i thought looked like they were done by an Afghanistani that you had obviously outsourced and needed to be redone.

I have not heard from Wade since then, i have not heard from you since then, i have no plans on paying you guys for this incomplete, shit design, i am also glad that you never asked for 50% upfront because quite frankly, if you had, it would be ME causing drama about you, instead of the other way around.

The design itself is not, was not and in my opinion, never will be up to your usual standard of work which, is what leads me to beleive you outsourced my job externally.

You are the ones who fucked up by outsourcing the work to some noob that, quite frankly, Juicy could out-perform in Photoshop skills.

Your loss ultimately, not mine

I have worked with plenty of designers in the industry who, strangely enough, deliver work of the quality in their portfolios that i expect which, strangely enough, also results in them being paid for the work.

Feel free to post the samples of the http://www.europeanwebmasters.com design that you apparently 'designed' for me, as well as a link to your portfolio so people can compare the two.

This way people will quite clearly be able to see the crap that you never delivered and, expect to be paid for thus, will subsequently understand why you wont be seeing a red cent of that $500.

Regards,

Lee

The plot thickens........

No it doesnt.

That has always been the plot, i have asked both Andrew and Wade publicly on GFY before to post samples of the shit they tried to palm off on me and the direct link to their portfolio, they never have.

Ask yourselves, why havent they, if they have nothing to worry about?

Regards,

Lee

domain is worthlesss just like you and gary

There is no need to be immature about this and call me names, it only serves to expose your lack of professionalism

This is all news to me. My email history indicates we made a number of versions for you, you picked the one you liked, we made all the changes you requested, and the last thing I heard from you was 'bring the map out of the background a little more and we're done


Was it my job to keep emailng and ICQ'ing you after you ignored me for a year? I'm sorry, should I be calling your cell as well?

Funny you should say this now, your emails contradict what you're saying, I have all the history infront of me. Never in the past year and a half did you ever suggest to me that the designer is Afghanistani. Actually the designer who built your site is our top designer with over 6 years experience.
He worked through your specifications, making many versions and doing all the changes you specified.
You even said yourself you liked it - so I'm a little confused as to where this is all coming from, I can only assume now that you want to sell the domain, you need an excuse to not like the work that you previously liked, and this is the best excuse you can come up with?

Correct, when you don't pay for something, the other person loses, I'm glad you recognise the loss you have caused me.

You have never said this to me in the past 1.5 years, you said the work was good, and that you just wanted the "map to come out a bit more & we're done"

So it's ok for me to post the URL now?

Last time I posted some url's of the work we did, you said you were not going to pay me *because* I posted it.
So make up your mind before you lose any credability you may have left.

Are you not paying for the design because:
1) The url's of your work were posted on the board previously
2) You no longer need the design now that you're selling the domain.

You previously have said you have every intention of paying the invoice.. so what's it going to be, will you pay, or were you lying previously?

If it's made you $50k with no work in a few months...why sell it for only $10k?

I'm going to guess that it might be too much to ask for you to post some sort of traffic or revenue stats.

Its made $50k in the last 12 months, it gets a reasonable amount of traffic and its made 50k in pre-sold ad space to a range of sponsors, over the years the site has been online we have had ARS, Sic Cash, AEBN, PayServe, TopBucks, SilverCash and heap of other sponsors advertising on the site, many for multiple month campaigns, with a couple taking out annual ad contracts.

All current clients ad contracts have been fulfilled, hence why we are selling the site now, we dont beleive in taking a clients money, then selling up and screwing them.

Im not going to lie, its a lot of work, work that i no longer want to put in to the site because over the past 3 years my focus in the industry has shifted away from the international marketplace and more in to the gay marketplace although we do still have some developed and undeveloped domains for the international webmaster side of things should our focus shift again in the next couple of years.

This is priced for a quick sale because, if it doesnt sell, the sites traffic starts to drop and, in effect the site becomes worthless.

If it doesnt sell, we'll hold on to the domain as it was the first resource site out of our network of 25 that i personally put online back in 2001-2002 so it does have some personal value to me.

That $50k it has made in the last year, is a small fraction of what the site made in previous years when i was concentrating on http://www.europeanwebmasters.com fully.

As i say, running a resource site of any type is a lot of hard work, the potential to make your initial $10k investment back with profit is huge if you are willing to work on securing companies to advertise on the site, if you have 'contacts' at a few of the sponsor programs, filling the ad spots should be easy, thats why we are focusing on the gay marketplace, because thats where our 'circle of friends' is now firmly placed.

If you are expecting to pay $10k for a webmaster resource and do nothing with it, you'll not make your investment back.

EW has a solid brand presence in the international webmaster community, its been around for almost 5 years, it has a shitload of highly targetted webmaster SE traffic for many languages, French, German, Spanish and English.

It also comes with all scripting, including the directory script and forum script and the original design.

Again though, i want to stress, if you are expecting to spend $10k and make that back with little to no work on your own part, its not going to happen.

Regards,

Lee

Will you two kids cut this out and just get a room!

The sexual tension is so thick you can cut it with a knife!

Are you selling our design with the domain too?

Don't you think you should pay for it first as you always claimed you would?

best thread ever

id like to see this design just out of curiosity...

Lee if you get serious about selling and realistic about the price, the cash is available, Paypal, epass, wire, draft. Hit me up on icq 331446617 Dave "TheButcher" you know where to find me.

I don't get it, if it was making 50k a year, why is it parked at sedo?
Specially when I've always found that already developed sites go faster and get more money in than just domains.
If what you say is true, by parking it there you are just pulling the price down (a price that is already way under market value if it makes 50k a year).
This simply doesn't make any sense, and I call bullshit.

This domain is worth fuck all

You never replied to my post here either Lee - wouldn't you like to defend yourself?

If it's good enough to add in as a bonus to the sale, it's also good enough to pay for.

"we do no work to the site and it made us 50k in a year, but ill sell it right now for 10k"

people that say shit like this crack me up