Originally posted by theking
The exceptions you list are just ones that you heard on Fox. You only disagree with the government when Fox says it's ok.
Try thinking for yourself for a change!
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You blindly follow Fox.
The exceptions you list are just ones that you heard on Fox. You only disagree with the government when Fox says it's ok.
Try thinking for yourself for a change!
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The taxes I listed were to show that our system of taxation is neither equal nor consistent.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Please show me any regulation that says the govenment cannot tax a for profit industry, even if some would say it's not entertainment or a service, but free speech..Comment
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Would you like to explain that to me? I guess Im too close minded to understand it???Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Lets see - definition of racist - to make derogatory remarks about one group of people
definition of close-minded - doesn't recognize the fact that other people have opinionsComment
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Interesting Reads
Senator Santorum's view on Freedom of Speech:
"But you may have noticed that in pornography the words aren?t really the point, are they? ?Speech? implies words, rationally intelligible discussion and argument, communication. Pictures also can be ?worth a thousand words,? of course: Sometimes images are central to a political or social cause. But America?s huge porn industry is not about political debate; it is not about the communication of ideas. It?s about the commercial production of objects of titillation for profit. Based on the text of the Constitution, the courts should have recognized a hierarchy of protected ?speech,? with political speech and writing receiving the greatest constitutional protection, commercial speech less protection, and mere titillation the least of all."
For full article, visit:
http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0507210812.asp
Also, did you know that the Catholic Church keeps secret archives in each diocese? It is required by Cannon Law and records "matters of morals."
Read more about the secret inworkings of the Catholic Church at:
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.Originally posted by mardigras
Look up the word "abridge".
Make it simple. Would it be constitutional to tax only hip-hop music?Last edited by Mr.Fiction; 07-23-2005, 10:46 AM.Comment
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Porn is free speech...serving up porn for sale is not free speech it is a for sale service...entertainment service.Originally posted by Mr.FictionWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Originally posted by ronbotx
You do realize that the relgious right make ZERO distinction between CP and regular porn and consider us and pedophiles one in the same. Also many in the religious right consider us MORE of a threat to American society than terrorists. I don't agree with the KKK but I sure as hell back their right to say what they want. that's the thing about freedom, if you want your own sometimes you have to defend someone elses you may not like. Picking and choosing WHICH people get to have rights and which one don't deseve them is a dangerous thing. So just be thankful the ACLU is there trying to protect your ass because they'll end up doing more for you than the stupid FSC ever will. I don't see the FSC making any comments on this either.Comment
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Pig shit. C-Span is my primary source of news...as I prefer my news from the "horses mouth". My thinking is mine after having weighed the pros and cons...thankyou very much. Now feel free toOriginally posted by Mr.Fiction
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Book publishers have no free speech protection? You believe it would be constitutional to add a 25% tax to any book publisher who publishes books that are critical of Bill Clinton?Originally posted by theking
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GatorB,
see my posts of #53, 79, and 104.Comment
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When something is for sale it is not free speech...it is a for sale service...entertainment service.Originally posted by Mr.FictionWhen you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Based on the text of the constitution?Originally posted by Redrob
The constitution makes no distinction on the type of speech. It wouldn't be free speech if the government could decide which speech was protected and which was not.
He should move to Saudi Arabia.Comment
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All a tax will do is push companies to work overseas or offshore. It reminds me a lot of the online casino laws. Laws and taxes forced them offshore, and cost the government tax dollars they could have made from sponsors.
It's another stupid law and it will probably go through.Comment
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Books, movies, music, TV, radio, and art are not free speech?Originally posted by theking
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Of course they are and all pay taxes and some pay special taxes and all are subject to special taxes...just as the so called "sin taxes" that have been levied on certain products...and special zoning taxes that have been levied against strip clubs...adult stores...and even night clubs. As one pointed out taxes are not equal and with consistency.Originally posted by Mr.FictionBooks, movies, music, TV, radio, and art are not free speech?
This bill will probably die in committee...if it ever becomes law...the Supreme Court will decide the constitutionallity of it...end of story.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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The government...city...county...state....and federal has many and multiple impositions against total free speech. Combative speech is against the law in most jurisdictions...as is hate speech...traitorious speech...certain speech in advertisements...speech on the airways...etc. etc.Originally posted by Mr.FictionBased on the text of the constitution?
The constitution makes no distinction on the type of speech. It wouldn't be free speech if the government could decide which speech was protected and which was not.
He should move to Saudi Arabia.
Bottom line...government can and does control limitations on free speech...and always has.Last edited by theking; 07-23-2005, 11:13 AM.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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He specifically says "based on the text of the constitution", which does not make exceptions for speech that people don't like.Originally posted by theking
People like Santorum want the United States to be like Saudi Arabia and Cuba, where all speech has to be approved by the government or it is illegal.Comment
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I know what he said and I know what you said.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
" It wouldn't be free speech if the government could decide which speech was protected and which was not."
And I pointed out to you that the government...city...county...state...and federal can and do control limitations on free speech.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I don't know who said the quote; but, I like it:
"You don't live in a free country if you are never offended."Comment
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How is taxing porn prohibiting or curtailing it? It's not, no more than you could say that a restaurant tax prohibits food.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Hey, I fully believe that adults should be able to look at any porn they want to (featuring conscenting adults only), I'm just stating how the current government looks xcept CP & beastialityat it, don't forget we have an Attorney General who has gone on record saying that obscenity is not protected speech. As wrong as that may seem, that is the current situation.Last edited by mardigras; 07-23-2005, 01:19 PM..Comment
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^xcept CP & beastialityat^
LOL, I used the mouse to highlight and edit, then it jumped as I saved and left this blub in, then it said my 3 minutes to fix it were up
What I was trying to say is I agree adults should be able to look at any porn they want featuring conscenting adults. Alberto Gonzales does not. I have less sayso than he does. I didn't vote for this pack and I encouraged others not to as well. It's not me you have to convince of your beliefs
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I swear over 70% of the asswipe in Washington are a bunch of imbecile's, both parties.Originally posted by spunkmasterEpic CashEpic Cash works for me
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Again, you are wrong.Originally posted by thekingMake Levees, Not WarComment
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you really don't want the Gov't 2 do any thing, because if they do they are sure to fuck it up.Originally posted by LightspeedEpic CashEpic Cash works for me
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If that's the case why did the American Nazi Party get to march in Illinois in the 60s, 70s, 80s?Originally posted by thekingMake Levees, Not WarComment
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it's a Democratic that want's 2 do it.... how much more liberal do you want them..Originally posted by Hinc
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impeach a Demo.... you sayOriginally posted by Mr.Fiction
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She's from Arkansas. Who did Arkansas vote for in 2000 and 2004? BUSH. Fact is if you are a democrat in a republican state you have to act like a republican to keep your job. Actually republicans aren't really republicans anymore if you break it down. If you're "republican" and you actually believe in "republican" values them start voting liebrtarian please.Originally posted by jimmyfit's a Democratic that want's 2 do it.... how much more liberal do you want them..Comment
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yep, and in California you pay tax on a computer and desk when you buy it, and then you pay the county a use tax ever year to use it... you pay taxes on all Equipment you have.Originally posted by Antonio
For you people in California don't let the county you are in know that you work out of your home or they will be knocking on your door.... Checking out all your Equipment, computers, camera's, printers, desk's all kinds of shit... AND they will TAX you on it every year....Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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A right winger is a right winger no matter which party they claim. Kick all of the right wingers out if they are against free speech!Originally posted by jimmyfimpeach a Demo.... you say
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i don't understand why we can't do something about this ourselves. all of us combined have millions of web pages online. can't we inform the public about what's going on and have them write these politicians to lay off? we all grunt and bitch but we don't do anything but take it up the ass everytime.Comment
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What if the tax was 90%? If you tax speech because you don't like it, you reduce it's effectiveness, thereby "abridging" it. Under the U.S. constitution, the government is not allowed to abridge speech that it does not like.Originally posted by mardigras
It is unconsitutional to tax speech because you don't like the speech.
Would it be constitutional to tax any book that promotes Christianity?
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yep that's true and now some guy in California got a few people together and are starting a company or have started it.. They want 2 take Sutter's (spelling) house he's one of the Justices that voted for this. They want 2 put there office building where his house is...Originally posted by bringer
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hopefully they get every judge who voted for it. once their houses are walmart supercenters or apartment buildings they might see the error of their waysOriginally posted by jimmyfyep that's true and now some guy in California got a few people together and are starting a company or have started it.. They want 2 take Sutter's (spelling) house he's one of the Justices that voted for this. They want 2 put there office building where his house is...333-765-551Comment
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They are taxed in CaliforniaOriginally posted by bringerEpic CashEpic Cash works for me
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The state of Louisiana slaps new property taxes anytime they feel like it. One of the poorest states in the country is the highest property taxed. If people don't like a 90% porn tax maybe they'll stop voting for fuckwits, it doesn't seem to matter in the other areas of their lives.Originally posted by Mr.FictionWhat if the tax was 90%? If you tax speech because you don't like it, you reduce it's effectiveness, thereby "abridging" it. Under the U.S. constitution, the government is not allowed to abridge speech that it does not like.
It is unconsitutional to tax speech because you don't like the speech.
Would it be constitutional to tax any book that promotes Christianity?
Who says the real reason Ms. Lincoln wants to tax internet porn because is because she's against it? I suspect it's more like Acacia and she sees the industry as "low hanging fruit".Last edited by mardigras; 07-23-2005, 02:31 PM..Comment
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this is not a christian right plot, the christians dont want a online porn tax. If there is a tax then we are a legimate business and much much harder to prosecute because of that it will never pass.Comment
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