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  • European Lee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7133
    #1

    Blue Design Studios - Im Calling You Cocksuckers Out

    If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

    Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

    Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

    Regards,

    Lee
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    • Trafficbrokercom
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 542
      #2
      why dont you post it ?

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        • European Lee
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 7133
          #3
          Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom
          why dont you post it ?
          Because i was never sent a 'finished' design by them

          Regards,

          Lee
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            • Ice
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 26053
              #4
              If you contracted them to do a site for you... you owe them PERIOD

              No... let gfy decide anything
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                • European Lee
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7133
                  #5
                  Originally posted by iceicebaby
                  If you contracted them to do a site for you... you owe them PERIOD

                  No... let gfy decide anything
                  I only owe them if the work was of the quality expected from such a 'superior' design company, you dont pay for something you dont have delivered

                  Regards,

                  Lee
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                    • Cory W
                      Deeply shallow
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 9133
                      #6
                      I have enjoyed all business relationships with Blue Design.

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                        • Fletch XXX
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 60840
                          #7
                          for some reason i had to post

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                            • webair
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 8531
                              #8
                              Shut up pay your bills and quit with the useless 2 year old drama...That's what GGW is for...


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                                • brand0n
                                  been very busy
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 26983
                                  #9
                                  you contracted them to do a job. they did the job. you didnt pay.

                                  and who the fuck are you calling a cocksucker? lol
                                  want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                    • TheDoc
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 13827
                                      #10
                                      Always two sides to a story..

                                      But you NEVER pay a design company for work you are not happy with.. Period..
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                                        • wjxxx
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 4448
                                          #11
                                          Premium sig placement

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                                            • SinisterStudios
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                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 3087
                                              #12
                                              this could get interesting
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                                                • E Guru
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                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                  • 658
                                                  #13
                                                  Fuck you lee fatass retarded santa clas

                                                  Blue design studios is awesome
                                                  Guru

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                                                    • Brujah
                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 22157
                                                      #14
                                                      I'd still like to see the design.

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                                                        • Headless
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 26727
                                                          #15
                                                          Lee you're a fucking asshat. Pay them what you owe bitch.

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                                                            • Relish XXX
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 4904
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                                                              this could get interesting
                                                              You only posted that to get you sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.

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                                                                • Relish XXX
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                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 4904
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Relish XXX
                                                                  You only posted that to get you sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.
                                                                  I only posted that to get my sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.

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                                                                    • DamageX
                                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 14293
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                      Always two sides to a story..

                                                                      But you NEVER pay a design company for work you are not happy with.. Period..
                                                                      Actually, that depends. First of all, it may not necessarily be the fault of the design company that the client has no clue about what he's doing... On the other hand, if the design was sub-standard and didn't sell worth shit I'd say either redo it or withstand payment. People expect ROI from a design, just like with any other B2B service or product.
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                                                                        • wjxxx
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 4448
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by wjxxx
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                                                                          And pay your bills, Lee

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                                                                            • pornmonger
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 330
                                                                              #20
                                                                              technically, according to business law, just because you contract someone to do a job doesn't mean you owe them.

                                                                              Everything has to be according to the SOW, technical & functional specs and accepted by the client before payment is due.

                                                                              simply contracting a job doesn't mean you owe anything. won't hold up in the court.

                                                                              Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                              you contracted them to do a job. they did the job. you didnt pay.

                                                                              and who the fuck are you calling a cocksucker? lol
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                                                                                • After Shock Media
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                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 35299
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by pornmonger
                                                                                  technically, according to business law, just because you contract someone to do a job doesn't mean you owe them.

                                                                                  Everything has to be according to the SOW, technical & functional specs and accepted by the client before payment is due.

                                                                                  simply contracting a job doesn't mean you owe anything. won't hold up in the court.
                                                                                  Technically, according to gfy law, your sig is to big.

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                                                                                    • Persignup Qon
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                                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                                      • 853
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                      Actually, that depends. First of all, it may not necessarily be the fault of the design company that the client has no clue about what he's doing... On the other hand, if the design was sub-standard and didn't sell worth shit I'd say either redo it or withstand payment. People expect ROI from a design, just like with any other B2B service or product.
                                                                                      ummmm... a designer does what you TELL him to do. if you give'em creative freedom, that's your personal decision. its not the designer's job to determine what will & won't sell. "sub-standard" could be the person just not liking the concept THEY gave when they actually saw it completed (or nearly complete) but the designer is STILL OWED FOR HIS TIME.

                                                                                      BDS does hot work period. they aren't the fastest turnaround but their work is on point. i know, check out the new look they gave OnProbation - i don't know you European Lee but you're fuckin up on this one... pay'em their money & move on.... hell, it would probably be best to just work out some sort of deal with them. they've always been agreeable when it comes to differences in ideas when we've had an issue of that nature. top notch guys in my book



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                                                                                        • Thomas1007
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                                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • Aric
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 1209
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Blue Design Studios are good people and they're one of the few on my very short list of goto designers.

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                                                                                                • keyboard warrior
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                  • 1435
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Funny how people bring shit to the boards to let them decide who gets paid.

                                                                                                  pay your bill.
                                                                                                  - nothing here -

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                                                                                                    • The Ghost
                                                                                                      IslandDollars.com
                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                      • 12188
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      What was the original amount? If BDS do bring it to the board and the GFY crowd determines you owe, you should pay the amount, plus interest.
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                                                                                                        • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                          • 60840
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          nothing says scammer like fucking over designers

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                                                                                                            • JFK
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 67369
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                              If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

                                                                                                              Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

                                                                                                              Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

                                                                                                              Regards,

                                                                                                              Lee

                                                                                                              Lee, its better to start a drama thread on a Monday, you will get much better views

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                                                                                                                • brand0n
                                                                                                                  been very busy
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                  • 26983
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  thread backfire
                                                                                                                  lol
                                                                                                                  odds are they dont even have that design any more, or wont even see this thread, but as you can clearly see by everyone here.

                                                                                                                  you are a scammer.
                                                                                                                  want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                    • flashfreak
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                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                      • 4396
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      see sig .

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                                                                                                                        • khs
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                          • 1730
                                                                                                                          #31
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                                                                                                                            • European Lee
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 7133
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Bump for BDS

                                                                                                                              Whoever it was that said they probably dont have the work anymore, thats bullshit, i can go to Sharky or Todd and get work they did for us 4 years back, any designer worth their salt will keep archives of their work on file

                                                                                                                              The only reason BDS wont post the work is because, it was pure shit just like i have been saying all along

                                                                                                                              Regards,

                                                                                                                              Lee
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                                                                                                                                • dodger21
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  This is the dumbest fucking thread I've seen yet!
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                                                                                                                                    • dig420
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 9240
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Blue Design rocks.

                                                                                                                                      You, on the other hand, are an asshole. Loud, fat, obnoxious and pretty much totally without any redeeming qualities.

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                                                                                                                                        • dig420
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 9240
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Also, you're a deadbeat.

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                                                                                                                                            • chase
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 6019
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              It *is* funny that Lee called BDS cocksuckers, though, lol. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, haha, I don't know what is.
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                                                                                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 30307
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Fake drama.

                                                                                                                                                  Move on.

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                                                                                                                                                    • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 9492
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Lee stop changing your excuse, it's obvious you're lying

                                                                                                                                                      Hi Lee

                                                                                                                                                      I'm a bit confused.

                                                                                                                                                      When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year.

                                                                                                                                                      You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY.

                                                                                                                                                      You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

                                                                                                                                                      And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

                                                                                                                                                      So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic.

                                                                                                                                                      Andrew

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                                                                                                                                                        • tungsten
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 10579
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          i doubt bds did an unqualified design for you after 15 changes, unless something is not told here
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                                                                                                                                                            • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                              been very busy
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 26983
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                                                                                                                                              Hi Lee

                                                                                                                                                              I'm a bit confused.

                                                                                                                                                              When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year.

                                                                                                                                                              You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY.

                                                                                                                                                              You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

                                                                                                                                                              And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

                                                                                                                                                              So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic.

                                                                                                                                                              Andrew
                                                                                                                                                              can you show us the designs?
                                                                                                                                                              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                                • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 9492
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                  can you show us the designs?
                                                                                                                                                                  they're best viewed alongside Lee's comments

                                                                                                                                                                  they way we designed his site, was firstly doing up a bunch of ideas, so he can pick the best one, then once he picked his favorite, we developed it as per his instructions and changes, basically whatever he asked for we did

                                                                                                                                                                  Which is why I don't get Lee's comments about quality - the design is a direct reflection of Lee's ideas, if I post each version of the design alongside Lee's comments then people will see how it evolved, and the fact that we did everything Lee specified.

                                                                                                                                                                  Which is why I'm a bit confused about his quality concerns, it's taken two years for him to mention them, it sounds to me like he's trying anything to get out of paying

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                                                                                                                                                                    • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 9492
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm a bit concerned as to how this situation qualifies me as a 'cocksucker(s)':

                                                                                                                                                                      - You ordered a design two years ago, and have never paid for it

                                                                                                                                                                      - Now you want to use a GFY audience to determine if you should or should not pay. (are you going to be asking GFY next if you should pay your hosting / internet / electricity bills?)

                                                                                                                                                                      I don't see what you have against me? Seems you've scammed me and have lost nothing, I am the one who still has not seen a penny for the design work.

                                                                                                                                                                      It should be quite clear from the responses here how GFY feels about this

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                                                                                                                                                                        • brand0n
                                                                                                                                                                          been very busy
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 26983
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          he said it was pure shit. ive seen alot of your work, so i dont think that can be true.

                                                                                                                                                                          ofcourse everyone would like to see to see if his story can even hold a drop of water.

                                                                                                                                                                          so, is it possible to see the examples?
                                                                                                                                                                          want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                              for some reason i had to post

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                                                                                                                                                                                • FunForOne
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 8704
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • European Lee
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 7133
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by FunForOne
                                                                                                                                                                                      Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Which still, hasnt been posted, anyone want to take a guess why?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                      Lee
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                          Which still, hasnt been posted, anyone want to take a guess why?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                          Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                          how about you respond to my posts first, then I'll post everything - all versions of the site & the entire email history of the project - and then you can pay up, how does that sound?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Relish XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                                                                                                                                                                              how about you respond to my posts first, then I'll post everything - all versions of the site & the entire email history of the project - and then you can pay up, how does that sound?
                                                                                                                                                                                              I like that idea. I want to see these designs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • European Lee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 7133
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Andrew, i suggest you talk to Wade, we both discussed the 'quality' issue in Vegas this year, not my fault that you havent heard about it from him.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Now post the designs damnit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dont forget that you also need to post a statement saying they are of the same quality of the sites in your portfolio, you wouldnt want to mislead anyone now would you

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lee - you've never responded to my questions - why do you keep dodging the issues?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've said I will post everything as soon as you respond to my posts

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