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  • edgeprod
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    • Mar 2004
    • 10019

    #1

    FOR SALE: Fully developed revenue-generating site network

    As we've grown, certain sites have received more love than others. While the "less loved" sites have certainly produced (and continue to produce) revenue on some level, they do not provide the type of income that makes it worthwhile for us to give them the TLC that they need to thrive and grow once more. I've provided three examples of the "shrinkage" from 2003 to Nov. 2004 (the last time we did a study on it). Keep in mind that these sites all still produce revenue, just nothing major to write home about:


    Totally Free Girls
    http://www.totallyfreegirls.com

    November 2004 Uniques: 114k
    November 2004 Pages: 934k
    November 2004 Transfer: 32GB

    May 2003 Uniques: 607k
    May 2003 Pages: 3.3 Million
    May 2003 Bytes: 257GB


    Honey Vids
    http://www.honeyvids.com

    November 2004 Uniques: 36.9k
    November 2004 Pages: 130k
    November 2004 Transfer: 40.9GB

    July 2003 Uniques: 648k
    July 2003 Pages: 5.3 Million
    July 2003 Bytes: 1,640GB (1.64TB)


    Treasure Porn
    http://www.treasureporn.com

    November 2004 Uniques: 146k
    November 2004 Pages: 374k
    November 2004 Transfer: 45.5GB

    Aug 2003 Uniques: 646k
    Aug 2003 Pages: 2.3 Million
    Aug 2003 Bytes: 238GB


    Consequently, we've decided to offer a few sites for sale to enterprising webmasters, rather than simply tank them or revamp them. The list of sites for sale is as follows:

    acclaimedbabes.com
    addictivebeauties.com
    alexardennaked.com
    amateurflood.com
    ambermichaelsnaked.com
    aria-pics.com
    ariagiovanninaked.com
    babeanthology.com
    besthotties.com
    breakroomsex.com
    cyberporngirls.com
    devonnaked.com
    edgeporn.com
    elitehotties.com
    gaugenaked.com
    honeyvids.com
    jessecapellinaked.com
    modelsquad.com
    perfect10gals.com
    sexy-ambermichaels.com
    sexy-ariagiovanni.com
    sexy-devon.com
    sexy-gauge.com
    sexy-tabithastevens.com
    sydneymoonnaked.com
    tabithastevensnaked.com
    totallyfreegirls.com
    treasureporn.com
    trojanmovies.com


    Optimally, we'd be considering a single bid for all domains, and of course full historical data (revealing traffic sources -- NONE OF WHICH IS PPC OR PURCHASED TRAFFIC) and materials will be provided to interested parties.

    My ICQ number is 124917382 for anyone who would like to contact me directly.
  • AdPatron
    No commissions, no fees.
    • Apr 2003
    • 17706

    #2
    bump bump

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    • Johny Traffic
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2003
      • 5461

      #3
      Just out of interest, why did you post novembers stats and not last months? Has the traffic fallen alot since then?


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      • Pete-KT
        Workin With The Devil
        • Oct 2004
        • 51532

        #4
        i sent you an icq

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        • shuki
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2004
          • 3070

          #5
          I sent an ICQ too.

          My contact info is in my sig if you want to get in touch with me asap
          Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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          • edgeprod
            Permanently Gone
            • Mar 2004
            • 10019

            #6
            Originally posted by Johny Traffic
            Just out of interest, why did you post novembers stats and not last months? Has the traffic fallen alot since then?
            Sometimes, when I write, I don't make myself as clear as I wish. In my original post, I explained that -- I'll explain it more fully now. Essentially, that's the last time we did an in-depth traffic study. I don't know if the traffic has gone up or down, but I do know there remains some level of traffic on the domain. Probably, in fact, numbers very similar to November.

            I'll respond to the ICQ's when I get home tonight, thank you for everyone's interest.

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            • edgeprod
              Permanently Gone
              • Mar 2004
              • 10019

              #7
              bump bump

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              • Dildozer
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2002
                • 7519

                #8
                how much revenue is generated?
                How much was generated the months before?
                Traffic sources? Traffic quality?
                See ICQ
                Spam link here

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                • edgeprod
                  Permanently Gone
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 10019

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dildozer
                  how much revenue is generated?
                  How much was generated the months before?
                  Traffic sources? Traffic quality?
                  Revenue was never more than $8k in a single month on a consistent basis, except one month it was about $15k because we changed sponsors/made it fresh, etc.

                  Regularly, those sites ran at about $6k per month or so consistently for about a year. Then, it fell in stages to $3k/mo, $2k/mo, and now it sits between $1k/mo and $1.5k/mo.

                  The traffic is certainly there, though. It comes from SE and link lists exclusively. The mix is probably link-list heavy, but it does sales from those sources, so it never bothered me.

                  The MAIN problem is a lack of attention to the "freshness" of the sites, as in not rotating the sponsors, etc. The secondary problem is with the falloff in traffic (these were google PR 4-7, now they're much lower) and the lack of any SEO or other proceedures.

                  Really, we just didn't give them enough love. They're aren't horrible sites, but they really haven't had attention in a very long time.

                  Someone needs to give them a little attention.

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                  • edgeprod
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10019

                    #10
                    I'd also be interested in hearing from someone who might know of an appropriate valuation model to pursue.

                    A lot of people have suggested a multiple on monthly revenue, from 6-12 months or so. Others have suggested 4-6 moths of revenue, plus a kicker for high traffic that isn't being optimally sold or perhaps an ongoing interest in the sites for 6-12 months.

                    Any ideas or thoughts? They're appreciated, if so.

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                    • Babaganoosh
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                      • Nov 2001
                      • 15841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                      I'd also be interested in hearing from someone who might know of an appropriate valuation model to pursue.

                      A lot of people have suggested a multiple on monthly revenue, from 6-12 months or so. Others have suggested 4-6 moths of revenue, plus a kicker for high traffic that isn't being optimally sold or perhaps an ongoing interest in the sites for 6-12 months.

                      Any ideas or thoughts? They're appreciated, if so.
                      Whenever anyone asks how much revenue the site generates, tell them that it's none of their business. Newbies all try to value a site by how much it brings in but that isn't at all relevant. Let's say a site gets 150K uniques a day. Your ability to monetize that traffic may be better or worse than the potential buyers ability. Traffic amount, sources, scripts, design, etc are all that matter. Ultimately YOU set the price for the site, not the buyer. The price is the absolute lowest amount you would let the site go for...period. Formulas are bullshit.
                      I like pie.

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                      • edgeprod
                        Permanently Gone
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10019

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
                        Your ability to monetize that traffic may be better or worse than the potential buyers ability.
                        In this case, it's MUCH worse. A lot of the sites have broken links or non-existent sponsors. I wish I could make the case more eloquently to the people who have ICQ'd me.

                        I will probably end up taking a multiple of the revenue it generates, or a lower number plus a rev-share, but I definitely want to hear other ideas.

                        Thanks for taking the time, you sound like someone who has a background in business, which is a rare kindred soul in this industry.

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                        • Babaganoosh
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                          • Nov 2001
                          • 15841

                          #13
                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                          In this case, it's MUCH worse. A lot of the sites have broken links or non-existent sponsors.
                          Sounds to me like it's more of a lack of time rather than a lack of ability. I feel your pain. Damn these short 24 hour days. ;)

                          Good luck with the sale.
                          I like pie.

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                          • edgeprod
                            Permanently Gone
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 10019

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
                            Sounds to me like it's more of a lack of time rather than a lack of ability. I feel your pain.
                            Perhaps. A) I just took a new position with a major affiliate. B) We just moved into a huge new office. C) Just got a new vehicular "toy." D) I'm taking more vacations than actually working.

                            I just want someone to take over for this small segment of our network, so the rest of it "matches" better. Maybe it's an OCD thing.

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                            • luv$
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 6158

                              #15
                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                              Perhaps. A) I just took a new position with a major affiliate. B) We just moved into a huge new office. C) Just got a new vehicular "toy." D) I'm taking more vacations than actually working.

                              I just want someone to take over for this small segment of our network, so the rest of it "matches" better. Maybe it's an OCD thing.
                              So you're looking for someone to run the sites, or someone to buy the sites?
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                              • edgeprod
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 10019

                                #16
                                Originally posted by luv$
                                So you're looking for someone to run the sites, or someone to buy the sites?
                                Buy. I want them off of the network. They don't "match" the newer sites.

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                                • edgeprod
                                  Permanently Gone
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 10019

                                  #17
                                  bump for new buyers before I make a decision

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                                  • edgeprod
                                    Permanently Gone
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 10019

                                    #18
                                    one (probably) last bump for the economy (mine)

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                                    • edgeprod
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                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 10019

                                      #19
                                      Still for sale -- about to break it into pieces.

                                      Any other offers?

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                                      • shuki
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 3070

                                        #20
                                        Send me an e-mail or icq. I am interested in buying them
                                        Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                        • colpanic
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 1007

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by edgeprod
                                          Buy. I want them off of the network. They don't "match" the newer sites.
                                          So, you are only selling part of the network... can you say what percentage of the network you are selling? That could have a pretty big impact on traffic.
                                          I like ducks.

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                                          • edgeprod
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                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 10019

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by colpanic
                                            So, you are only selling part of the network... can you say what percentage of the network you are selling? That could have a pretty big impact on traffic.
                                            Since none of the sites I'm selling interlink with any of the others sites in the network, it will likely have zero impact on traffic.

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                                            • shuki
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 3070

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                              Since none of the sites I'm selling interlink with any of the others sites in the network, it will likely have zero impact on traffic.
                                              Are you still selling?

                                              I am interested in buying.

                                              What is your e-mail?

                                              Thanks
                                              Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                              • Twatacom
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 275

                                                #24
                                                Please contact me about your network if it is still available in whole or in pieces.

                                                Thank you.

                                                KP
                                                ICQ: 174-738-317
                                                Buying Established Sites - Contact me with details! - AOL: krispckn websites (at) northforkcommercial (dot) com

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                                                • Horny Guy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 1677

                                                  #25
                                                  please send me a list of sites and prices
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                                                  • edgeprod
                                                    Permanently Gone
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 10019

                                                    #26
                                                    Sold -- please, no more ICQ's, etc.

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                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 25463

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                      Sold -- please, no more ICQ's, etc.

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                                                      • edgeprod
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                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 10019

                                                        #28
                                                        Thanks. Actually, congrats to the buyers. They got a HELL of a deal ...

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                                                        • edgeprod
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                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 10019

                                                          #29
                                                          nevermind ... [edit]
                                                          Last edited by edgeprod; 11-11-2005, 10:16 PM. Reason: sold

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                                                          • phonesex
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 3437

                                                            #30
                                                            interesting...

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                                                            • Mutt
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 34431

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by edgeprod
                                                              nevermind ... [edit]
                                                              oh come on man - don't be a wuss - if somebody from GFY bought the sites and stiffed you it is your duty to create some drama out of it.

                                                              let's get it on!!!!
                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                              • Trax
                                                                [----------------------]
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 14486

                                                                #32
                                                                send me an email to the mail adress in my sig
                                                                I'm interested in some of the sites/domains

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                                                                • edgeprod
                                                                  Permanently Gone
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 10019

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                  oh come on man - don't be a wuss - if somebody from GFY bought the sites and stiffed you it is your duty to create some drama out of it.
                                                                  Oh -- hell no! The guy who bought them is an awesome dude. Paid quickly, stayed cool afterwards, and we'll probably do more business.

                                                                  I was about to post that I had a chunk for 30+ more for sale, but someone ICQ'd be and bought them, so I edited, lol.

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