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Explain me how I can run a free softcore facial site?Originally posted by Kingfish
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EXACTLY! Thank you!Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
The same tactics of asset protection and laundering money that the big shot business guys and politicians use apply to everyone else. They would be cutting their own throats and they know it. This is all for show. They know damned well there are umpteen gillion other venues that would scap up the chance to process billing.
Instead of bitching about porn they should be looking for Bin Laden or protecting our borders or getting dope off our streets.Comment
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Agreed. No one is going to do age verification to get into a US-based MGP/TGP/Freesite, etc, when they can hit anything overseas..Originally posted by Braincash Fred
?an operator of a regulated pornographic website shall verify that any user attempting to access their site is 18 years of age or older using software certified for that purpose ? prior to the display of any pornographic material, including free content that may be available prior to the purchase of a subscription or product?
"...software certified for that purpose"
That's what worries me. I don't think they're talking about credit cards here. I think they mean the platforms that positively ID a person, and they don't work well. Maybe a 40% correct ID rate.
If a person has moved in the last year or so, you'll never get a match. Or, if the name is missing a middle initial, etc.. or the street address is typed incorrectly, for example Road vs Rd.
I built a dating service a few years ago that required postive age verification, plus absolute proof of identity, with background checks, etc. The age part never really did work, and the state of the industry hasn't advanced much since then. It's also expensive. Plus, it's cumbersome - the end user has to jump through hoops to get it to work, and any semblence of privacy is totally out the window.Comment
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I hope all the webmasters that voted for Bush are happy. This is what they wanted.Comment
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Originally posted by tony404
how so? your business is already taxable,nothing will change on how porn is treated.Comment
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Let?s see a $1 trial is now a $1.25 trial a $2.95 trial is now a $3.69 trial, a $4.99 trial is now a $6.24 trial and a free trial is still a free trial as 25% of 0 is 0. So I don?t see any real impact at all on sign-ups. Especially if you?re breaking it down to show the tax going to the good old USA.Originally posted by GatorBComment
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But not a porn tax if they have a tax for it they cant say its illegal.Originally posted by Soul_RebelComment
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Easy ? Hardcore content in member?s area. Promotional materials show topless girl with mouth open. Sales text says something like see her take a load on the face.Originally posted by Braincash FredExplain me how I can run a free softcore facial site?Comment
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I'm really torn about this.
On one hand, it'd have a serious chilling effect on porn in the US. Anyone who thinks it wouldn't is a damn fool or hasn't thought it through.
On the other hand, it'd be like going back to the 90s for people outside the US. A gold rush of epic proportions to fill in the vaccuum left behind.
So I'm torn between feeling bad for fellow industry peers, and giggling like a schoolgirl over the potential for massive revenues.
Hm. Maybe I'll giggle, in a morose sort of way.
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The keyword here is 'certified'. That's what youse gotta watch out for. Who's gonna do the certifying? Hmm? Didja get that? If they get away with that then it'll go on to who's gonna certify any website that these psychotics don't like?Originally posted by Braincash Fred
Get with it gang, a takeover is in affect.Comment
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as much as i hate bush, this was proposed by a democratic senator.......Originally posted by SomeCreep
religious anti-sex freaks are the same from both parties, although i agree, republicans are X100 worseComment
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25% increase on a 30$ membership is enough to bring convertion & rebill down significantly... and enough to move my business out of usa. Also means that you can make 25% more in sales by running your business elsewhere than in USA...Originally posted by KingfishComment
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You know as well as I that porn sites make their money on MONTHLY memberships. Think about it. A sponsor pays an affiliate $35 for a $1 sale? Hmmmmmm. Only reason they do that is if they can get that surfer to re-up for at least a month and possibly make some cross sales ALL of which are now goig to be taxed at 25%. That cuts in the SPONSORS wallet and trust me they aren't going to eat that cost.Originally posted by KingfishComment
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From ARKANSAS. A states that vote for Bush TWICE. As I said they ONLY way democrats get elected in republicans states is if they act like republicans.Originally posted by Bansheelinks
I do find it funny how the most conservative states are the same ones that allow you to marry your teen-age cousin.Comment
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Will be interesting to see where the biz goes in the next year or two with all these new laws they are trying to pass.Comment
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Canada and Holland are my betsOriginally posted by Sosa
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You'll be able to add me to the Canada column.Originally posted by Braincash FredCanada and Holland are my bets
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Just imagine in a year this ad:
Foreign countries make tons of money website processing billing for the former USA adult online business. Any takers?
We'll have to peel those countries off of us. They'll invite us to move in.
Yeah, the U.S. wants to lose a multi-multi-billion dollar industry because some psychotic got caught jerkin' off in his office and now wants to act like Carrie Nation.Comment
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You don't want to see ratio of soft tour vs hardcore tour...Originally posted by KingfishComment
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Why explaine anything...Originally posted by Bansheelinks
Some asshole will just call me an idiot here for saying why...
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The religious right does not care how much money porn bring into the US economy, they want it gone. Say porn was responsible for 50% of the US economy and banning it would shove the US into a 20 year long depression. The religious right still would not care.Originally posted by Greg BComment
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its not extortion, you guys dont see it yet? I saw it when visa and MC started that high risk fee.
its all about shutting down adult businesses, they dont really want your money, they want you gone, each new law or regulation is designed to make it harder for adult sites to stay in business, but I think that if this went through as is, it would be hard for anyone stay stay in business in the US.
Originally posted by BansheelinksMuscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
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Oh allot will change, they dont want to make a tax class for us because we are special, they want it so they can audit the shit out of you and make it easier to find you to do 2257 checks and everything else. this way they can also monitor the effect they are having each year to how many registered adult sites are closing down.
Originally posted by Soul_RebelMuscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
Since 1997 www.venuscash.comComment
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give me a break. a red neck senator from Sisterfuck Arkansas is going to propose a tax on porn and the sky is falling? if anyone here really believes that congress is going to debate a tax on porn in front of the nation and world and then pass legislation on it (also giving indirect support of the industry and validating it) you are smoking too much weed. do you think the religious right is going to be comfortable knowing social programs are being supported by revenue from two-midgets-fisting-each-other.com?
hate bush. hate the usa. hate republicans. thats all fine and good. but be rational, ... this will not become law.Comment
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Here's the real deal Venus,Originally posted by venus
The online adult business was unexpected. It literally drives the ongoing technologies and banking techniques. It's all about a bunch of people making lots of money that others want to control. They know dang well if they shut U.S. adult businesses down it'll spring up somewhere else. They just want to make sure it's THEIR pals who are making the money NOT you and me.Comment
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Lots of good potential for profit here !Comment
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If you run webcams or adult personals sites, sure.Originally posted by LegendaryLarsComment
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don't worry about them; i'm interested in your opinion and what you have to say.........ppl may disagree but if any jerk calls you an idiot for expressing your point of view on such a serious matter, they can screw offOriginally posted by AlienQComment
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so why sit in this thread arguing over YOUR situation?Originally posted by GatorB
he's talking about the majority, not youComment
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That cunt is so stupid. Internet is not for kidsOriginally posted by BansheelinksComment
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Please, there's a host of opportunities for people outside the US. Right off the top of my head:Originally posted by nophest
- Affiliate programs outside the US would now have a built in 25% barrier to entry against US competetors. Start a paysite.
- People attempting to end-run the 25% thing will go with outsourced billing solutions. Start a billing company.
Basically, if this thing comes to pass then anything anyone's doing in the US will be able to be done cheaper outside the US. That's not opportunity knocking, that's opportunity running up, bending over and spreading for you to make sweet, sweet love.
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especially if you hide the taxes with * plus applicable taxesOriginally posted by Kingfish
you may have to deal with more charge back complaints but it would be a quick form letter response to all the over charging complaints
“When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve WozniakComment
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does anyone make a profit of 25% of gross revenue now
I don't see how they came up with that number
“When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve WozniakComment
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These types of bills get introduced every session of congress - and they get shelved every session as well as the little ones like the CDA that actually make it through get declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
The only foul I would call here is posting this kind of shit in an attempt to sensationalize this type of news - seems we have created a whole group of WMs that love to be "shit stirrers" in the last few years - time for the BS posts about "news" to be called out for what it isComment
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Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!Originally posted by LegendaryLars
I got boys all over the globe who can go for broke hookin' our asses up just like you do Lars
Let's all write the guys pushing this bill and tell them howhappy we are that it's just what we've been waiting for for years and thanks!
That'll curl their pubes!Comment
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Text-CJ sites?Originally posted by Braincash FredExplain me how affiliates gonna promote sponsors without free content, free sites and hosted galleries
Text-SEO?
I think that would work..Comment
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Agree but SEO traffic is not something steady like a tgp can beOriginally posted by More Booze
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Lars is a very very very very very smart guyComment
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As a Canadian living in the USA, I just have to say, I thought this place was free, not a police state? I'm going home sooner then later, screw this place!SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation
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Believe me in 5/10 years from now we all have an electronic id card.
This will become the age verification on the internet ...Comment
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here come europe and canada
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Good luck.. i'll be moving my billing someplace to avoid that thanks.Comment
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Yeah you are right, it's way better that we talk about the latest movies and new hot girls coming in the biz...Originally posted by LinksterComment
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For those who want to start an AVS site.
http://www.adultsallowed.com/wm/index.php/3990
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AVS will be useless if you can't build an hardcore tour.Originally posted by Project-Shadow
And they said that it would be the biller and not AVS that would be in charge of the age verification.Comment
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Like THAT has ever stopped you before.Originally posted by AlienQ You're disappointing me, turning soft like that...
Now to address the issue at hand, I hear a lot of discussing and bickering about this, but has everyone actually thought of a SOLUTION to this, except for moving offshore? Personally, I could care less, this wouldn't affect me in a direct and immediate way, except positively. But all you US-based people, do you realize that you actually have more direct access to voters than most political campaigners? Wake up and smell the coffee, it's YOUR content the voters jerk off to, enlighten them about this and ask them to go bitch to their congressmen for letting morons make their daily pleasures more expensive.Whitehat is for chumps
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I love business threads on GFYAssclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment
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