Pipecrew, are you paying the $650,000 FTC fine you guys got hit with?

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  • StuartD
    Sofa King Band
    • Jul 2002
    • 29903

    #51
    Remember when people used to care about their own business and not the business of others?

    EDIT: 50 BITE ME woj'S
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    • TheDoc
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 13827

      #52
      Originally posted by PR_Tom
      If you have received anything from an affiliate of ours, do hit me up on ICQ so they can be terminated.

      ps: that includes someone who *IS* in compliance, as we accept *NO* email traffic. Period.

      I don't think I have seen any spams or emails from you guys

      I do however look at my spam email, it's a great way to get marketing ideas.
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      • SleazyDream
        I'm here for SPORT
        • Jul 2001
        • 41470

        #53
        Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
        Remember when people used to care about their own business and not the business of others?
        no, when was that?
        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

        Now read without the word dog.

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        • azguy
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2004
          • 5167

          #54
          It's easy for programs to claim "rogue affiliates" do the actual spamming.. What's to stop a program for simply sending mail supposedly from an affiliate? It doesn't take a genious to come up with such a scheme.

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          • triumph
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 3433

            #55
            There is no money in Mailings, No Money In SEO, and No Money in TGP's

            How do we make money now, hehe

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            • Rinaldo
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2003
              • 5086

              #56
              Originally posted by Platinum Dave
              Also Brad why are you singling out one company?
              Is Canada not targeting canadian companies too?
              I know MS is.

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              • StuartD
                Sofa King Band
                • Jul 2002
                • 29903

                #57
                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                no, when was that?
                I was hoping that someone did so that they could tell me about it. Sounds like it would have been a pretty decent era to live in.
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                • leedsfan
                  leedsfan
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2564

                  #58
                  Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                  I was hoping that someone did so that they could tell me about it. Sounds like it would have been a pretty decent era to live in.
                  I have a feeling it would get boring. Just like whining like a girl about other people's problems while you go bald, must be boring to some in Texas.
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                  • sherie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 7020

                    #59
                    I don't know why anyone is shocked by this LOL Almost every company in the freeworld allowed mail.

                    Where are all those mailers sending now, that's what I'd like to know.
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                    • TDF
                      Triple OG nigga on GFY
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 27296

                      #60
                      im quite sure those fines are drops in the bucket compared to what they really made.
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                      • lchaim
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                        • Jun 2005
                        • 626

                        #61
                        Originally posted by TDF
                        im quite sure those fines are drops in the bucket compared to what they really made.
                        I'd have to second that 'quite sure'

                        650k is nothing if they had some decent mailers pushing them

                        what they need to do now is learn how to form a non-profit organization or become a political candidate so you can spam freely without harrassment from the ftc

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                        • topbizucksMark
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                          • Apr 2005
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by azguy
                          It's easy for programs to claim "rogue affiliates" do the actual spamming.. What's to stop a program for simply sending mail supposedly from an affiliate? It doesn't take a genious to come up with such a scheme.
                          I guess nothing stops them, but it is simply bad business. A scheme like this cannot be very hard to spot and then what follows would be a mess bigger then what is currently going on.


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                          • azguy
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                            • Nov 2004
                            • 5167

                            #63
                            Originally posted by topbizucksMark
                            I guess nothing stops them, but it is simply bad business. A scheme like this cannot be very hard to spot and then what follows would be a mess bigger then what is currently going on.
                            That's simply not true. It'd appear as if it was just another affiliate, nothing more and nothing less. Makes you wonder if that's what some of them do. The "sorry, it was an affiliate of ours" excuse is old.

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                            • swami
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1989

                              #64
                              In the wash its the affiliates who end up paying.
                              we just get shaved a little more.
                              Maybe Its started now already 3:8000

                              (those stats are not one particular company btw)

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                              • Cory W
                                Deeply shallow
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 9133

                                #65
                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                pipecrew is a sales rep.... he couldnt pay a bar tab.

                                Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

                                Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

                                Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.
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                                • TheDoc
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                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 13827

                                  #66
                                  If it was "just an affilate" and they closed "every affilates" account that broke the spam laws they wouldn't be paying $650k fine.. They would be fighting it, much like TopBucks is doing..

                                  Settlement means they admit they broke the law in some way. It would be much cheaper for them to fight it, unless they thought the FTC would win the fight...

                                  Breaking the law isn't okay, and paying a $650k isn't a big deal for a lot of adult companies.. It is a big deal though when it's a fine for breaking the law.
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                                  • Trax
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                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 14486

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by swami
                                    In the wash its the affiliates who end up paying.
                                    we just get shaved a little more.
                                    Maybe Its started now already 3:8000

                                    (those stats are not one particular company btw)
                                    alan... could you send me the name via icq please? I would love to hear which one it is to compare data.
                                    thanks

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                                    • Dax
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                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 3161

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                      Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

                                      Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

                                      Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.
                                      He doesn't own it.. but he is not a sales rep... There is a lot more in there than most ppl know..

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                                      • Cory W
                                        Deeply shallow
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 9133

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Dax
                                        He doesn't own it.. but he is not a sales rep... There is a lot more in there than most ppl know..
                                        I see.

                                        I knew it had to be something more than that. Most people are different in person.

                                        Pimpdog is a real nice guy in person.
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                                        • CDSmith
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                                          • May 2001
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                          Pimpdog is a real nice guy in person.
                                          Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way.
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                                          • p1mpdogg
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                                            • Nov 2002
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                            Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

                                            Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

                                            Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.

                                            115 right now, been about 118.. but i live in AZ now....


                                            yea he is just a sales rep..
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                                            • TheDoc
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                                              • Jul 2001
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                                              Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way.
                                              hehe.. true dat..
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                                              • Bugbee
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                                                • Jun 2004
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                                                #73
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                                                • Cory W
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                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 9133

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                  Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way.
                                                  I have always gotten along with most of the board nemesis, if you will. I just see past it most of the time. I get along with a lot more people that way.

                                                  I just don't have the time to fight with people. And the things that make someone likeable in my eyes really have nothing to do with how they express themselves.

                                                  Take Brad for example, he has a way of saying things, but if you choose to read it without a grudge, you see he is right a lot.
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                                                  • p1mpdogg
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                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 16714

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                    Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way.

                                                    arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

                                                    felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


                                                    i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.
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                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 30307

                                                      #76
                                                      LOL, this thread is awesome...

                                                      I am celebrating today.

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                                                      • p1mpdogg
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 16714

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                        arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

                                                        felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


                                                        i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.

                                                        if i recall, it was you and your brother charged with making snuff flicks..

                                                        then there was another 'incident' involving you and a camera and a lake and kids on the beach.

                                                        a reliable source from this forum and the industry told me about it, not sure if i could ever find documentation on that, but i think i will spend some today on that.

                                                        thanks cd for giving me something todo today.
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                                                        • Joesho
                                                          want to get in shape
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 12329

                                                          #78
                                                          Bradshaw is it true you made a deal with the feds in order to not be on this list? and that you somehow implicated these other companies in that deal?

                                                          or is that just a nasty rumor?
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                                                          • sherie
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 7020

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                            I have always gotten along with most of the board nemesis, if you will. I just see past it most of the time. I get along with a lot more people that way.

                                                            I just don't have the time to fight with people. And the things that make someone likeable in my eyes really have nothing to do with how they express themselves.

                                                            Take Brad for example, he has a way of saying things, but if you choose to read it without a grudge, you see he is right a lot.
                                                            However, if he called people names and said things about their mothers etc., to their faces I am sure that he would have his fair share of knuckle sammiches to ingest. I believe that is what his post was about.
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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 30307

                                                              #80
                                                              Oh snap!

                                                              Dig that shit up Pimpdawg!

                                                              AHahahha!

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                                                              • p1mpdogg
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                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 16714

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by sherie
                                                                However, if he called people names and said things about their mothers etc., to their faces I am sure that he would have his fair share of knuckle sammiches to ingest. I believe that is what his post was about.

                                                                I have yet to even be approached by anyone in this industry in person that threatend me or harrassed me etc.

                                                                i have been to 4 shows. plenty of opportunity for anyone to confront me and my evil soul.

                                                                and im just a little guy

                                                                180 5'10" and devilishly handsome on my good days

                                                                haha
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                                                                • Anthony
                                                                  Keyboard Warrior
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 9653

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                                  Originally Posted by Anthony
                                                                  Cory...

                                                                  You've stepped over the line from Metro, to full out Homo.
                                                                  I am so honored.

                                                                  Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

                                                                  Yes there will be tounge action.


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                                                                  • venus
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 3112

                                                                    #83
                                                                    How do you know the programs are not spamming?

                                                                    What I know is that my mail server has been blacklisted by spamhaus because its at the same place topbucks mail server is at and has a very long history of spamming. I even emailed topbucks about their spamming getting my IP address listed and all they said was they was working an agreement with spamhaus.
                                                                    So to say some of these programs are not spamming is is just inaccurate.


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                                                                    What gets me is it's not the program that is doing the spamming,
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                                                                    • p1mpdogg
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 16714

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                      I am so honored.

                                                                      Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

                                                                      Yes there will be tounge action.


                                                                      fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                      • CDSmith
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                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 51460

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                        arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

                                                                        felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


                                                                        i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.
                                                                        *yawn*

                                                                        Same tiresome insults from Trey Hickey.... ex con.


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                                                                        • p1mpdogg
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 16714

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by venus
                                                                          How do you know the programs are not spamming?

                                                                          What I know is that my mail server has been blacklisted by spamhaus because its at the same place topbucks mail server is at and has a very long history of spamming. I even emailed topbucks about their spamming getting my IP address listed and all they said was they was working an agreement with spamhaus.
                                                                          So to say some of these programs are not spamming is is just inaccurate.

                                                                          i think your tits are too big for your body
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                                                                          • Cory W
                                                                            Deeply shallow
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 9133

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                            I am so honored.

                                                                            Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

                                                                            Yes there will be tounge action.

                                                                            Ahh...Florida is approaching.
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                                                                            • p1mpdogg
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                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 16714

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                              *yawn*

                                                                              Same tiresome insults from Trey Hickey.... ex con.



                                                                              live and learn dont we convict?

                                                                              us convicts goto stick together
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                                                                              • sherie
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 7020

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                I have yet to even be approached by anyone in this industry in person that threatend me or harrassed me etc.

                                                                                i have been to 4 shows. plenty of opportunity for anyone to confront me and my evil soul.

                                                                                and im just a little guy

                                                                                180 5'10" and devilishly handsome on my good days

                                                                                haha
                                                                                My point is that you have not approached anybody at the show's to tell them that their mother is a whore or that they shave or that they are pedo's and all those other fun names you toss around. Most people will deal with your board persona and leave it on the board, but I doubt very much you would take your board persona to the show and start dishing out the shit you do on here. I know I would start slitting throats.
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                                                                                • Peaches
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 13933

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  I want tickets for the Anthony/Cory action

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                                                                                  • CDSmith
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                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 51460

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

                                                                                    okay....


                                                                                    Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

                                                                                    Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

                                                                                    Anything else?

                                                                                    :D
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                                                                                    • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 16714

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by sherie
                                                                                      My point is that you have not approached anybody at the show's to tell them that their mother is a whore or that they shave or that they are pedo's and all those other fun names you toss around. Most people will deal with your board persona and leave it on the board, but I doubt very much you would take your board persona to the show and start dishing out the shit you do on here. I know I would start slitting throats.

                                                                                      who takes their board persona to the shows?

                                                                                      dont tell me you take this shit seriously?
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                                                                                      • p1mpdogg
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 16714

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                        Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

                                                                                        okay....


                                                                                        Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

                                                                                        Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

                                                                                        Anything else?

                                                                                        :D

                                                                                        the kid deserved it, he peed on my bushes.
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                                                                                        • venus
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                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 3112

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          thats what you get for thinking.


                                                                                          Originally posted by p1mpdogg
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                                                                                          • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                            • 16714

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                            Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

                                                                                            okay....


                                                                                            Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

                                                                                            Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

                                                                                            Anything else?

                                                                                            :D

                                                                                            actually my arrest IS public record, but it wasnt for touching a 5yr old boy. it was for criminal mischief and it was a felony because of the value of the property.

                                                                                            whats your felony for CD Smith?
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                                                                                            • CDSmith
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                                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Pimptrey is attempting to deflect any negativity he brings on himself and his acacia-feeding program by throwing the same old personal attacks and empty insults.

                                                                                              Lame.
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                                                                                              • Cory W
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                                                                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                I am my board persona. Haha.
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                                                                                                • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                  • 16714

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by venus
                                                                                                  thats what you get for thinking.

                                                                                                  ouch... a little bit of c u n tness in you today?

                                                                                                  you know those fake tits are way to big for your littel body... not that i wouldnt fuck you in the ass and make you suck my dirty cock, but im just saying.. your tits ARE to big for your body.

                                                                                                  dont get offended
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                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 107089

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by hova
                                                                                                    damn, that's a serious fine! Looks like the witch hunt has begun

                                                                                                    Do you even know what a witch hunt is, and if so, how do you figure this is one?

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                                                                                                    • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                      • 16714

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                      Pimptrey is attempting to deflect any negativity he brings on himself and his acacia-feeding program by throwing the same old personal attacks and empty insults.

                                                                                                      Lame.

                                                                                                      i canswered your accusation, but you have yet to answer mine.. how come?


                                                                                                      instead you turn it around to acacia?
                                                                                                      lol

                                                                                                      yep, i got a hell of a deal. 1% is better than 10% moron. you are a true businessman.

                                                                                                      ask the other 128 programs that settled what they are paying. atleast i am honest.
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