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  • bhutocracy
    Not making A Comeback
    • Dec 2001
    • 10218
    #101
    In addition to whats already been suggested, don't you think image choice may have played a part?


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    one looks like a bored stripper just thinking about getting out of there,

    the other looks like someone i want to spill my load on.

    Image choice is very important.. she needs to smile more and not just the "stripper smirk"


    fiddy better tour pics.
    Last edited by bhutocracy; 07-16-2005, 08:23 PM.

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      • sonofsam
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2004
        • 18648
        #102
        i just got owned on the 50 post
        I like turtles.

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          • sonofsam
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2004
            • 18648
            #103
            also, damn the pic beside the butterfly is one of my favs
            I like turtles.

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              • abyss_al
                **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                • Oct 2003
                • 15605
                #104
                Originally posted by bhutocracy
                In addition to whats already been suggested, don't you think image choice may have played a part?


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                one looks like a bored stripper just thinking about getting out of there,

                the other looks like someone i want to spill my load on.

                Image choice is very important.. she needs to smile more and not just the "stripper smirk"


                fiddy better tour pics.

                very true... i keep saying make her smile and look like shes enjoying herself and less skanky,.... how u doin andrew?
                EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                  • Probono
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 2731
                    #105
                    I am going to dare to make a suggestion here since I have been working with amateur single girl sites for years. I understand your site is more polished and professional than those I do but that may well be an issue.

                    A Single girl site needs something to disinguish it from the masses, a niche like extreme Holly, a real personality like ellinude. You also need a stream of traffic looking for that girl, her personality. You need to make the buyer fall in love with that girl to pull the card out.

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                      • bhutocracy
                        Not making A Comeback
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 10218
                        #106
                        Originally posted by sonofsam
                        also, damn the pic beside the butterfly is one of my favs

                        to me it looks like she's thinking "i can't believe i have to do this shit"

                        And the one with the lolly pop is "this is my 50th 10 second position today, when's lunch"

                        the first good way says "what the hell are you waiting for? fill my ass from behind before i change my mind" she looks hungrier than bored. Still not 100% but way better than the other stuff.

                        A photographer can pick out 2 shots out of 50 to use in a magazine.. thats how you have to be with your tour...

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                          • sonofsam
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 18648
                            #107
                            Originally posted by bhutocracy
                            to me it looks like she's thinking "i can't believe i have to do this shit"

                            And the one with the lolly pop is "this is my 50th 10 second position today, when's lunch"

                            the first good way says "what the hell are you waiting for? fill my ass from behind before i change my mind" she looks hungrier than bored. Still not 100% but way better than the other stuff.

                            A photographer can pick out 2 shots out of 50 to use in a magazine.. thats how you have to be with your tour...
                            gotcha... i'll look around for different pics...

                            and thanks probono, i agree
                            I like turtles.

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                              • The Other Steve
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 2106
                                #108
                                Originally posted by baddog
                                Actually, I believe it is closer to 50%, but he does have a join link on the front page, it is just too small to see.

                                BTW, I noticed you guys got a flurry of signups . . . does that mean you are promoting your site again?
                                I think the boss lady might have been putting a few links here and there

                                Alien - feel free to ask baddog what our ratio is with a one page tour and bugger all traffic.

                                baddog - if he asks give him the figures, modesty prevents me from bragging.
                                Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                  • bhutocracy
                                    Not making A Comeback
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 10218
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by abyss_al
                                    very true... i keep saying make her smile and look like shes enjoying herself and less skanky,.... how u doin andrew?
                                    not bad.. about to get totally whipped by the gf if im not ready to leave to see sin city in about 5 min though lol - just had to make the point of how important the tour images are, even though it's a fairly obvious one.

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                                      • abyss_al
                                        **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 15605
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                        to me it looks like she's thinking "i can't believe i have to do this shit"

                                        And the one with the lolly pop is "this is my 50th 10 second position today, when's lunch"

                                        the first good way says "what the hell are you waiting for? fill my ass from behind before i change my mind" she looks hungrier than bored. Still not 100% but way better than the other stuff.

                                        A photographer can pick out 2 shots out of 50 to use in a magazine.. thats how you have to be with your tour...

                                        EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                                          • abyss_al
                                            **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 15605
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                            not bad.. about to get totally whipped by the gf if im not ready to leave to see sin city in about 5 min though lol - just had to make the point of how important the tour images are, even though it's a fairly obvious one.

                                            one of the best movies i've seen .... don't go in there expecting anything and enjoy it
                                            EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                                              • jonesy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 6688
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                -make second page a little shoorter, and add a 'next page' at bottom that goes to join
                                                -have all the small pics link to join page
                                                -make join page a little more fuller (there was a recent study done on how people react differently when people are staring at them... pretty interesting:they setup a page where at the end when they clicked next, it went to a pay page.. one had nothing but random pics, they immediately left the site, the other though, had a pic of someone staring directly at them, somehow making them feel bad or uncomfotabel making them join....i would test this out on join page)
                                                -the text is horrible... sounds like every other site out there... make it more personal...

                                                -definitel have a trailer on each page.. or maybe just one... but have her tease and not show too much... you want the surfer's attention and the feind to join to see more.... same with the tour.. you dont want to show everything all in tour....
                                                ...

                                                agreed

                                                my

                                                the tour needs to have continuity - the girl next door/nice girl pics, not the stripper looking ones - work in that she gets nasty but without showing it or maybe a tease shot but nothing to give it all away

                                                like al said - get the surfer wanting to see the good shit and want to join.


                                                dude check out the biggest solo girl sites out there , study them, do your homework then apply it to yours.

                                                im not saying copy but apply the methods
                                                .
                                                Shooting Bikini Girls

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                                                  • sonofsam
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 18648
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by jonesy
                                                    agreed

                                                    my

                                                    the tour needs to have continuity - the girl next door/nice girl pics, not the stripper looking ones - work in that she gets nasty but without showing it or maybe a tease shot but nothing to give it all away

                                                    like al said - get the surfer wanting to see the good shit and want to join.


                                                    dude check out the biggest solo girl sites out there , study them, do your homework then apply it to yours.

                                                    im not saying copy but apply the methods
                                                    good advice, thanks.. yah i have a lot of people icqing me with suggestions and i want to thank everyone in this thread, and on icq helping me out
                                                    I like turtles.

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                                                      • abyss_al
                                                        **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 15605
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by jonesy
                                                        agreed

                                                        my

                                                        the tour needs to have continuity - the girl next door/nice girl pics, not the stripper looking ones - work in that she gets nasty but without showing it or maybe a tease shot but nothing to give it all away

                                                        like al said - get the surfer wanting to see the good shit and want to join.


                                                        dude check out the biggest solo girl sites out there , study them, do your homework then apply it to yours.

                                                        im not saying copy but apply the methods



                                                        like my art teacher would always say... "if you're gonna copy, copy the best"
                                                        hehe... best teacher I ever had
                                                        EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                                                          • Chris
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 27880
                                                            #115
                                                            I'm not an expert by anymeans
                                                            I am just another fellow webmaster voicing his opinion.

                                                            The site strains my eyes. To much blue
                                                            alot of brightness
                                                            hard to read the words that are gfx

                                                            just my opinion though
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                                                              • baddog
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                                -make second page a little shoorter, and add a 'next page' at bottom that goes to join
                                                                -have all the small pics link to join page
                                                                -make join page a little more fuller (there was a recent study done on how people react differently when people are staring at them... pretty interesting:they setup a page where at the end when they clicked next, it went to a pay page.. one had nothing but random pics, they immediately left the site, the other though, had a pic of someone staring directly at them, somehow making them feel bad or uncomfotabel making them join....i would test this out on join page)
                                                                -the text is horrible... sounds like every other site out there... make it more personal...
                                                                -i dont like her makeup and you should listen to wargames.... make her hair smooth, put less/softer makeup... make her young.... less skanky outfits.. and NO high heels(the stripper kind!)
                                                                -make her young and cute... get her to smile more often...
                                                                -tell the photographer not to shoot her from top.. ruins proportians, and have him use the white balance on the camera and manual mode... too much tint on the pics...
                                                                -definitel have a trailer on each page.. or maybe just one... but have her tease and not show too much... you want the surfer's attention and the feind to join to see more.... same with the tour.. you dont want to show everything all in tour....

                                                                i tihnk thats it for now..... i still have more to say about the members area...

                                                                wow, how much are you charging for all that info? SOS, I hope you were paying attention.

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                                                                  • sonofsam
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 18648
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    wow, how much are you charging for all that info? SOS, I hope you were paying attention.
                                                                    i am, and i've also talked about it on icq with him.. abyss al is a good guy
                                                                    I like turtles.

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                                                                      • abyss_al
                                                                        **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 15605
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                        wow, how much are you charging for all that info? SOS, I hope you were paying attention.

                                                                        i hope so too... and my fees are small.... just his first born is mine...
                                                                        EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                                                                          • baddog
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                            baddog - if he asks give him the figures, modesty prevents me from bragging.

                                                                            I wish you would brag . . . . and promote more. With those ratios I really don't know what is stopping you.

                                                                            Alien, just a hint . . . if he was converting at 1:700 he would think I was shaving the living fuck out of him.

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                                                                              • The Other Steve
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                • 2106
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                I wish you would brag . . . . and promote more. With those ratios I really don't know what is stopping you.

                                                                                Alien, just a hint . . . if he was converting at 1:700 he would think I was shaving the living fuck out of him.
                                                                                baddog if Marie or I bragged about it no-one would believe us - and these days you wouldn't believe what we're making from our writing business
                                                                                Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                    baddog if Marie or I bragged about it no-one would believe us - and these days you wouldn't believe what we're making from our writing business

                                                                                    Congrats on that . . . now throw some anchor text into your writings linking it to your site.

                                                                                    Yeah, the last pay period was a little radical, it makes it tough, never being able to give ratios because you know no one will believe it

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                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                        I wish you would brag . . . . and promote more. With those ratios I really don't know what is stopping you.

                                                                                        Alien, just a hint . . . if he was converting at 1:700 he would think I was shaving the living fuck out of him.
                                                                                        Is it TGP traffic?
                                                                                        It is my opinion that the traffic sources are not the best so far for Julia Blue.
                                                                                        1 in 700 for basic TGP traffic? I would say its not so bad for a solo girl site. It held its own, and maybe the traffic has not run its course yet from his stated sources.

                                                                                        I did what I could with the tour.
                                                                                        Love how some of ya guys like to swoop down knowing it was just my design...

                                                                                        Ya can not play off the traffic sources he is currently using and say 1 in 700 is bad.

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                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                            Love how some of ya guys like to swoop down knowing it was just my design...
                                                                                            My advice to him has very little to do with the tour. There are a couple tweaks, easy to change shit, but this isn't about the tour as much as it is his traffic management.

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                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                My advice to him has very little to do with the tour. There are a couple tweaks, easy to change shit, but this isn't about the tour as much as it is his traffic management.

                                                                                                Well then I do not think it is proper for you to give the tour shit by your previous statements of "1 in 700 and he would think your shaving em".

                                                                                                WTF.

                                                                                                It's not the best fucking tour I ever built, but I do like it.
                                                                                                In my opinion it will hold its own very well once some things are done.

                                                                                                Particularly the traffic sources and locking down the text on all the pages.

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                                                                                                  • Quickdraw
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 1717
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Just a couple quick comments(I think )

                                                                                                    The tour goes from first person, to someone else talking about Julia on the join page. This can be a bit of a mental stumbling block.
                                                                                                    For instance, the tour everything is "I"-- then the join says
                                                                                                    "You get to give input on what you want julia to do"
                                                                                                    maybe
                                                                                                    "Do you want me to do something sexy, just for you? Let me make your dreams come true!"
                                                                                                    Or something a horny guy wants to hear.

                                                                                                    Notice the use of the same text for both join options. The text doesn't need to be duplicated for each option. Put the options together and lose the second copy.

                                                                                                    In fact the graphics on the tour might reflect a little more first person feel.
                                                                                                    I understand it is important to brand the site, but other ways are possible.
                                                                                                    'ACCESS JULIA BLUE TONIGHT' could be "Chat with me tonight, right now, instantly..." or something else depending on her chat schedule.

                                                                                                    "I KNOW YOU WILL LIKE MY EXCLUSIVE MEMBERS AREA!GET ACCESS NOW!" is used twice on the same page. They should love, not like your members area Less redundancy and sexier copy.

                                                                                                    On http://juliablue.com/p2.html at the the top. The graphic with grey background. 'VIdeos' might look better as 'Videos' as the other small i's are with the dot. Just stuck out to me.

                                                                                                    The site tour/graphics are ok and a decent start, but they don't look complete. The little details to help give it a finishing touch are missing. Just odds and ends like the butterfly, just more bits of it. You know subtle stuff in the background that noone notices but brings things together more.

                                                                                                    What are her stats? bust, waist, hip, likes, dislikes, sign, etc.

                                                                                                    Does every set you show have 65 pics, or are there 65 pics total for all galleries? "65 Hi Rez pics" could be '65 Hi Rez pics of me getting erect nips in my black lingerie' (as I assume there are 65 for each gallery)
                                                                                                    The the next one something different and sexy '65 HUGE images of me getting sticky with a lollipop'

                                                                                                    The photographer needs to work on bringing her personality(assuming there is one) to the photos which might help the designer 'bring things to life'-- More smiles, playful smirks, scrunched nose, and so many other thigns like this

                                                                                                    I have gone on much longer than I expected..
                                                                                                    This is of course meant to be constructive criticism and my personal opinion, which amounts to a net value of about . Your mileage may vary

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                                                                                                      • sonofsam
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                                        • 18648
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        damn quickdraw, one of the best replies in this thread.. thanks man

                                                                                                        this thread is bookmark worthy for people in my shoes in the future
                                                                                                        I like turtles.

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                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                            Well then I do not think it is proper for you to give the tour shit by your previous statements of "1 in 700 and he would think your shaving em".

                                                                                                            WTF.

                                                                                                            It's not the best fucking tour I ever built, but I do like it.
                                                                                                            In my opinion it will hold its own very well once some things are done.

                                                                                                            Particularly the traffic sources and locking down the text on all the pages.
                                                                                                            See, this is where proper medication would be of great benefit.

                                                                                                            I was not giving you shit about your tour. As I recall, you were telling Steve he did not know what he was talking about when he suggested that you should be giving the surfer an earlier opportunity to join. To stop hiding the join button. You said he was full of shit, and he suggested that he was doing a lot better rations than SOS is, and he has been doing solo girl sites since sos started sprouting pubic hair.

                                                                                                            I don't know how to break it to you, but not everything is about you.

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                                                                                                              • sonofsam
                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                • 18648
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                and he has been doing solo girl sites since sos started sprouting pubic hair.
                                                                                                                i'm persian... so that was at about age 3
                                                                                                                I like turtles.

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                                                                                                                  • The Other Steve
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                    • 2106
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                    Well then I do not think it is proper for you to give the tour shit by your previous statements of "1 in 700 and he would think your shaving em".

                                                                                                                    WTF.

                                                                                                                    It's not the best fucking tour I ever built, but I do like it.
                                                                                                                    In my opinion it will hold its own very well once some things are done.

                                                                                                                    Particularly the traffic sources and locking down the text on all the pages.
                                                                                                                    Alien - I think that there has been some misunderstanding between you and baddog - he was referring to me when he said " if he converted at 1:700 ..." - because last week we converted at 1:11 (on very low traffic numbers) but that doesn't surprise me much at all.

                                                                                                                    When it was a paysite I could convert at 1:20 on a mixture of TGP/TGP2/Free Site traffic
                                                                                                                    Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        NO Bad dog I said he was full of shit on his statement that longer tours with multiple pages tend to have worse ratios...

                                                                                                                        Which is not true at all and bullshit.

                                                                                                                        Take your own meds.

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                                                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                            best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                            • 30307
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                                                            Alien - I think that there has been some misunderstanding between you and baddog - he was referring to me when he said " if he converted at 1:700 ..." - because last week we converted at 1:11 (on very low traffic numbers) but that doesn't surprise me much at all.

                                                                                                                            When it was a paysite I could convert at 1:20 on a mixture of TGP/TGP2/Free Site traffic
                                                                                                                            ON what Free Ezines or subscription sites asking the surfer to shell 24.95?

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                                                                                                                              • The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                • 2106
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                ON what Free Ezines or subscription sites asking the surfer to shell 24.95?
                                                                                                                                Alien - you're now just making yourself look dumb - I said earlier that it was our own solo girl paysite - for which we charged the average membership for a site like that.
                                                                                                                                Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                    NO Bad dog I said he was full of shit on his statement that longer tours with multiple pages tend to have worse ratios...

                                                                                                                                    Which is not true at all and bullshit.

                                                                                                                                    Take your own meds.

                                                                                                                                    Okay, let's make this fair . . . show me a multiple page tour, that converts well, and doesn't give you an easy to find join button on every page of the tour, beginning with page 1.

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                                                                                                                                      • JOKER
                                                                                                                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 2105
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Could we stay on focus here and not get into a fight please

                                                                                                                                        Thanx alot, great advice so far, good read
                                                                                                                                        Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
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                                                                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 30307
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                            FWIW - the text where your girl talks to the surfer is weak - at least on the first page.

                                                                                                                                            And from my experience you can count on losing around 25% of your surfers for each new page they have to move to - so if you have a three page tour and 200 surfers hit the front by page two your down to 150 and even less will go throught to the join page.
                                                                                                                                            Well...

                                                                                                                                            Lets REALLY be fair here...

                                                                                                                                            Where did he specify a solo girl site in this?
                                                                                                                                            Hows one supposed to connect reference to this statement pertaining to solo girl sites? The number of pages even a solo girl site has is irrelevant. If the pages are good it makes no difference.


                                                                                                                                            Case and point:
                                                                                                                                            http://www.fionaluv.com

                                                                                                                                            Lots of pages. Does great.

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                                                                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 107089
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                Well...

                                                                                                                                                Lets REALLY be fair here...

                                                                                                                                                Where did he specify a solo girl site in this?
                                                                                                                                                His very next post:

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                                Don't be a total fuckwit Alien - my partner and I ran a solo girl site for 6 years so go stick you're head back up your arse.

                                                                                                                                                Hows one supposed to connect reference to this statement pertaining to solo girl sites? The number of pages even a solo girl site has is irrelevant. If the pages are good it makes no difference.


                                                                                                                                                Case and point:
                                                                                                                                                http://www.fionaluv.com

                                                                                                                                                Lots of pages. Does great.

                                                                                                                                                and there is a join link up top, and easy to find on every page.

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                                                                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                    His very next post:







                                                                                                                                                    and there is a join link up top, and easy to find on every page.

                                                                                                                                                    Really?

                                                                                                                                                    Explain this.
                                                                                                                                                    http://www.fionaluv.com/covers/087.html

                                                                                                                                                    Click the big image? Is that whats next?
                                                                                                                                                    Duh...

                                                                                                                                                    But no prominate join link.

                                                                                                                                                    Prolly an error on there part but the sites do good.
                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 07-17-2005, 12:09 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Feeling destroid yet?

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                                                                                                                                                          • natas
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 3377
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            no offence - but do you mean destroyed?

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                                                                                                                                                              • The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 2106
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by natas
                                                                                                                                                                no offence - but do you mean destroyed?
                                                                                                                                                                Shhhh Natas - don't destroy his rhetoric - let the poor fool dream on.
                                                                                                                                                                Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                    Really?

                                                                                                                                                                    Explain this.
                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.fionaluv.com/covers/087.html

                                                                                                                                                                    Click the big image? Is that whats next?
                                                                                                                                                                    Duh...

                                                                                                                                                                    But no prominate join link.

                                                                                                                                                                    Prolly an error on there part but the sites do good.

                                                                                                                                                                    yeah, you are right . . . the only way to exit the page is to click to the join form, or go back to http://www.fionaluv.com/chapters.htm with the prominent join link.
                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by baddog; 07-17-2005, 12:14 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by natas
                                                                                                                                                                        no offence - but do you mean destroyed?
                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah that too

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                            As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 13754
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            www.sexcounter.com

                                                                                                                                                                            put an invisible counter on your main page to see how many uniques you're getting to it. i do.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                I will tell all you "experts" why Julia Blue is not doing so hot though.

                                                                                                                                                                                Julia Blue is not in love with the camara. I spoke to a couple people about this, this evening. Same thing I thought as well from the get go.
                                                                                                                                                                                That has everything to do with it.
                                                                                                                                                                                She will get the hang of it I hope and bring out that "Character".

                                                                                                                                                                                New girls always have a hard time.
                                                                                                                                                                                She is hot and has a ton of potential.

                                                                                                                                                                                Lets hope she finds it with SoS

                                                                                                                                                                                I think she can.
                                                                                                                                                                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 07-17-2005, 12:24 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • RazorSharpe
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 2238
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    WarChild, you seem to have a beef with AlienQ, and while that is your perrogative, it is in immense bad taste to come in on THIS thread and berate him .... in fact berate anyone for that matter.

                                                                                                                                                                                    SoS is simply trying, unlike most people, to get a dialogue going that will help him fine tune his site. He hardly needs people coming in here and turning it to shit based on their dislike for someone who is participating in the thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                    People can be so overly selfish sometimes!

                                                                                                                                                                                    My post is not meant to incite you in anyway; on the contrary, it was intended to remove the blindfolds of hate that cloud your judgment and cause you to do inappropriate things at inappropriate times (like waking up in the middle of the night and pissing out your bedroom window .... ).

                                                                                                                                                                                    Start your very own "I hate AlienQ" thread and let SoS's thread be the productive one he was hoping it would be.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Cheers ....
                                                                                                                                                                                    Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 17263
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                                                                                                                                        WarChild, you seem to have a beef with AlienQ, and while that is your perrogative, it is in immense bad taste to come in on THIS thread and berate him .... in fact berate anyone for that matter.

                                                                                                                                                                                        SoS is simply trying, unlike most people, to get a dialogue going that will help him fine tune his site. He hardly needs people coming in here and turning it to shit based on their dislike for someone who is participating in the thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                        People can be so overly selfish sometimes!

                                                                                                                                                                                        My post is not meant to incite you in anyway; on the contrary, it was intended to remove the blindfolds of hate that cloud your judgment and cause you to do inappropriate things at inappropriate times (like waking up in the middle of the night and pissing out your bedroom window .... ).

                                                                                                                                                                                        Start your very own "I hate AlienQ" thread and let SoS's thread be the productive one he was hoping it would be.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Cheers ....
                                                                                                                                                                                        Sam is doing just fine on his own. I've talked to him a couple of times on ICQ and if he wanted me to leave his thread alone he'd just ask me himself. He's a big boy and he's not getting bullied around here.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Now that I've said that, I'd like to remind you that AlienQ is a serious douche bag and sucks some major ass. Fucking fruitcake.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • abyss_al
                                                                                                                                                                                            **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 15605
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            the only reason julia blue is not doing good or its not converting or ratio is bad or whatever else.... IS BECAUSE ITS ONLY BEEN UP A FEW DAYS!

                                                                                                                                                                                            you goota give it at least a month.. AT LEAST..... before making any changes.... 700 hits is nothing to guesstimate anything...
                                                                                                                                                                                            EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com | ICQ: 311329761 | SKYPE: abyss.al | AIM: xABYSSxALx

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • natas
                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 3377
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                                                                                                                                                                700 hits is nothing to guesstimate anything...
                                                                                                                                                                                                so true

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • sonofsam
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 18648
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                                                                                                                                                                    the only reason julia blue is not doing good or its not converting or ratio is bad or whatever else.... IS BECAUSE ITS ONLY BEEN UP A FEW DAYS!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    you goota give it at least a month.. AT LEAST..... before making any changes.... 700 hits is nothing to guesstimate anything...
                                                                                                                                                                                                    oh i wasn't really worried about that.. i was just pissed off about the lack of stats etc...but thats fixed now with nats
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I like turtles.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 30307
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        SOS ya got a wealth of knowledge in this thread bud.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Take it for what its worth.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Alot of good meat in here to chew on.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Take it up

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If Ya need touch ups in the process I am here for ya.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Abyss is right also, its to early to tell still but I have to agree adjustments on the tour are needed, text wise to get the "Your invited" feel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Right now without being able to track anything your swinging in the dark.

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