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I'd like to be the first person to PUBLICLY TELL AVN
To give Aly a raise
No one should have to endure this kind of punishment without being PAID.
Also if I may add-
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Howmany passes did you get to the Players Ball Ron?
And how much was your sponsorship?
And howmany girls of yours didn't get in??
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D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.
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See how happy Lens looks with a hot girl around makes networking so much more fun.Originally posted by Lensman
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Originally posted by RonC
D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.
Ron C[/QUOTE]
Shit, I just want to be a fraction of the player you are dogg. For real!Still Ballin'Comment
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Originally posted by RonC
D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.
Ron C[/QUOTE]
AND WE ALWAYS FUCKING WILL!
CC BILL IS THE BOMB
and THEY DESERVE TO BE TREATEN WITH RESPECT
I knew Ron Cadwell when he was....
hahaha I can't say broke- so I'll say not AS rich
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Ron and Craig Tant were the first two people I met at my first tradeshow in Orlando- They had a little booth next to our Miniscule little booth-
And you know what AVN?
CC BILL HAS BLOWN UP
and they HAD A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND WITH YOU-
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now is that in a good sexually excitable lovemaking kind of way or in that bad take someone unsuspecting from behind in the prision shower kind of way?Originally posted by kBizzleThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Thank god the other one's were nuked!Originally posted by RogerVComment
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For those of you who just skipped to the end of this thread, read this post.Originally posted by RonCComment
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Kb I hate you for telling me about this thread. I just read the whole dam thing..
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Look at you and your mad thread Rog!!
I also think that CCBill should also take over more shows. The AZ show is my favorite!!AIM sherierocks
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Thats not true the NAB the biggest video trade show in the US charges its attendees nothing , the sponsors pay for the show. Besides a show floor it includes more classes then you could want.Originally posted by RawAlexComment
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the blanket reply like calling an automated customer service line eh?Originally posted by Aly_AVN
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Originally posted by kBizzle
it would give you even more credibility if you wouldn't always brag about it
but who am i ... - you know what i mean
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It's about making the show alot of fun for networking I didn't expect it to blow the fuck up..Originally posted by sherie
Just don't get the way they are thinking we don't need them like the video side does/ we have shows like twice a month now. I always supported AVN I just don't understand why they won't bend on this.Comment
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Originally posted by RonC
next yr? try vegas in 6 months..
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Originally posted by MaDaltonit would give you even more credibility if you wouldn't always brag about it
but who am i ... - you know what i mean
BUT THAT IS MY STYLE!!
Holla
Off to party at a NON AVN event-
Blatt Bros are throwing a hell of a mixer tonight
in LA
WOO HOO!Still Ballin'Comment
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Well it wouldn't have blown up if you didn't have a point and others didn't share the same thoughts and opinions or views. I have given up trying to understand it because you just go around in circles. All I have to say is that, this event better be worth it as it seems to me that a lot more is at stake here than just the loss of a few people that don't want to pay $300 to get in. It looks to me like we are talking maybe sponsorships for future events and even advertising revenues. It's a pity, hopefully someone is listening/reading and actually is "getting it." (Outside of Aly of course as she can only do so much)Originally posted by RogerV
LOL KB, you posting from your bro's 'puter again? Referring to post above mine ;)Last edited by sherie; 07-14-2005, 04:42 PM.AIM sherierocks
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I kinda feel bad wasn't trying to stir shit but oh well If they don't bend they lost my advertising dollars and respectOriginally posted by sherie I still have Xbiz, Klixxx,GFy and many other sources
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Originally posted by RogerVI kinda feel bad wasn't trying to stir shit but oh well If they don't bend they lost my advertising dollars and respect I still have Xbiz, Klixxx,GFy and many other sources
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Maybe KB is right and AVN just does not care. I find that very hard to believe that when something is brought to your attention you don't listen to what your customerswant. I know that we do it all the time. I guess I should be happy it will only make the Phoenix Forum a stronger show if this show tanks. Sad
I am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill.
Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there
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Damn, big step there Roger, way to set the pace Man, re%.Originally posted by RogerVI kinda feel bad wasn't trying to stir shit but oh well If they don't bend they lost my advertising dollars and respect I still have Xbiz, Klixxx,GFy and many other sourcesWant to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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Ron, never met you, but re% to you as well for saying all that that publicly.Originally posted by RonCRoger V
Maybe KB is right and AVN just does not care. I find that very hard to believe that when something is brought to your attention you don't listen to what your customerswant. I know that we do it all the time. I guess I should be happy it will only make the Phoenix Forum a stronger show if this show tanks. Sad
I am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill. Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there
Ron CWant to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
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Agreed Sherie!! As both an attendee and a sponsor, this years Phoenix Forum was very profitable and a hell of a lot of fun!Originally posted by sherie
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CC Who? ...and you are? ... and I would know you from???Originally posted by RonCI am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill. Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there
Ron C
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Ron, first and foremost if you really don't see a value in exhibiting in January I agree you shouldn't do so.Originally posted by RonCRoger V
Maybe KB is right and AVN just does not care. I find that very hard to believe that when something is brought to your attention you don't listen to what your customerswant. I know that we do it all the time. I guess I should be happy it will only make the Phoenix Forum a stronger show if this show tanks. Sad
I am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill. Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there
Ron C
The assertion, however, that 'AVN just does not care'... based on the fact that Internext is unlikely to change it's pricing structure and refund money 3 weeks prior to the event, in order for female attendance to increase, seems very unfair.
I agree whole-heartedly that crowds of beautiful women (and men) will improve the overall atmosphere of the show, as does anybody in this office. The evening guest passes were implemented to help in that area, and the SilverCash Bikini contest should do so as well.
It would be excellent to come up with a great way of doing this next time around and I don't doubt they will, but that's how these things work Ron, and you know that. All those brilliant ideas/ feedback can be assessed, worked out and implemented for next time. I don't recall seeing a chocolate fountain at previous Phoenix Forums, or a cash-registerless 7Eleven for that matter... they're brilliant ideas that grew out of experience and change.
There may be many faults to find with AVN, and I want to hear them, but I want to hear them in order to implement positive change. I want to hear them because I see a value to the industry in making these products better. I encourage you to let time take it's course, to encourage positive change yourself, and to focus on how we can realistically make things better.
I appreciate any and all feedback you have. Thanks.Last edited by Aly; 07-14-2005, 06:41 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by RonCRoger V
Maybe KB is right and AVN just does not care. I find that very hard to believe that when something is brought to your attention you don't listen to what your customerswant. I know that we do it all the time. I guess I should be happy it will only make the Phoenix Forum a stronger show if this show tanks. Sad
I am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill. Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there
Ron C
OMG!!!! YOU JUST REMINDED ME!!
RON! Thanks for the MUNCHIES SHACKS at PHOENIX FORUM!!!!!!
That was the most ingenious thing i have ever seen done for people at a show!
I meant to tell you when we were talking about your new boat at Cybernet, but I forgot. Then I meant to tell you again at our party at Martini Ranch, but you know how that goes. Glad to see you got taken care of there.
Anyhow, MUNCHIES SHACKS. MUNCHIES SHACKS FOLKS!
A big fat bow!!!!!
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Aly that's a lame attempt at controlling the issue as presented in this thread thus far. AVN dropped the ball and got a little to greedy this time, bottom line. And to not listen to top advertisers and sponsors was a bad move on AVN's part, and I think most here will agree.Originally posted by Aly_AVNWant to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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roger, i think you have a dvd player coming your way.Comment
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edit - as a potential advertiser w/AVN, I got screwed hard a few weeks ago by your sales force. I promised myslef I would not speak out publicly about it, but in this case it's totally justified. AVN has little to no respect from me and my partners, many of whon are pretty big on the other side of your company. Expect to see no mney from us for a while, at least until honesty and opneness becomes a priority over there.Last edited by newbreed; 07-14-2005, 06:54 PM.Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
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Roger don't hold your breath, they owe me 2 now, and AaronM several moreOriginally posted by A1R3K
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I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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Originally posted by newbreed
I really and genuinely don't think this is a lame attempt at anything. After every event all attendees and sponsors are emailed surveys asking for their feedback (if they put correct email addresses). Changes are made based on that feedback. If sponsors and ANY advertisers and, well anybody actually, has ideas or feedback it is now being listened to. Absolutely! But throwing that request in 3 weeks before the show is NOT realistic! It WILL be taken into account for the future.Comment
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Aly seriously, one of your own lied out his teeth to me about some things, big things, and it was obvious a few hours later he was a liar. He cost me some cash, no doubt about it. But more importanly, he cost AVN some cash...Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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Bullshit, it takes a 2 minute phone call from you to the powers that be...Originally posted by Aly_AVN
This is what the MASSES want, listen or don't, your companies future will reflect any decision made. I really feel for you in the position you are in, I really do.Last edited by newbreed; 07-14-2005, 06:59 PM.Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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Feel free to click the 'feedback' part of my sig, if you're ever inclined... Please. I really have no idea what your experience was. Thanks.Originally posted by newbreedComment
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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Nor should you know, it's not your job according to you. You are responsible for Internext and avn feedback, not lying full of air employees. I don't even care anymore, doesn't even matter except to expose what a joke your company came of as when we tried to deal with them honestly and completly.
edit - it's not you Aly, it's AVNLast edited by newbreed; 07-14-2005, 07:04 PM.Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! | Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!!
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I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that beforeComment
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My goodness you have an awful job.Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Aly, there is no one in this thread that will believe for one minute that this situation can't be resolved. While I can appreciate a well thought out response to some very tough questions by unhappy potential advertisers, unhappy sponsors, and unhappy attendies. Maybe I can help you out. I'll say it all for you.
Dear concerned webmasters, program owners and sponsors.
ON THE RECORD this is not going to change. EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO PAY!
Yes the evening guest pass was implemented so people could pick up hookers at the club and bring them back to their rooms. ( what time do the evening guests get kicked out btw? 8am, 9am, noon??) But do not fear concessions will quietly be made for a few super heavy hitters. They know who they are So keep you advertising dollars flowing our way, and don't worry, those with advertising dollars will get the secret VIP treatment.
If you have feedback , click aly's sig."We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine."Comment
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i have to commend aly for being the most diplomatic and level thinking person on this entire board. she should be given a raise and the biggest office at avn's office. she is taking the heat from all angles. heat that has gasoline being dumped on it, and heat that is, at this moment in the history of the shows, under a microscope. aly, you are doing a great job and at least listening to what people have to say, and providing feedback to the higher ups. you officially have the hardest job in adult online in my opinion. not many others could sit there and take the abuse you have been taking. many would have snapped and probably setback the overall mission of your position over there. it's not your job to fix all the problems, but you are doing one hell of a job at listening and taking the beating. my hats off to you. you're a great person.Comment
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Very well said, brotha! I was just thinking the same thing.Originally posted by A1R3K
I hope AVN appreciates all Aly does.
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Originally posted by A1R3K
I agree 100% I think you may have said it better than I did."We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine."Comment
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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Aly
LOL you should run for office. Or better yet come work for me.
I know first hand what goes into a show of this size. I truly can say this because we had just as many people in Phoenix this year as this show will have. We are talking about 3 weeks.
What would really have to happen in 3 weeks.
1. You make an annoucement that all talent can come for free and all they need to do is go to the registration desk and get a badge
2. Anybody who has already paid please email us at [email protected] and we will process your refund.
3. Tell the registration Staff that Talent badges are free
4. Tell everyone that if you are caught with a talent badge and you are not talent you will be eject from the venue.
Even Ibill's employees could have made this happen in 3 weeks.
WOW
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Aly
I have said my opinions now and I am sorry that I put you in such a hot seat.
I have all the respect in the world for you and I totally understand what it is like to have people yelling at you and not be able to make the call since you are not the owner. For that my Hat is off to you. I guess I just wanted to let AVN know it was not just Roger and a few no names on GFY asking for this.
I must really need to take a vacation. I am sure glad I am going fishing next week in Cabo on my New Boat
So this will be my last post my Dear. Hugs and Kiss till Miami
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nice sig :DOriginally posted by KevshDon't take my word for it, but from I understand you need a badge to be on the premises - which means you've got to be registered. But for 4 hotties, I'm sure someone can make an exception. Please.Comment
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Ron, I am in Cabo now. It is ROUGH and hot, Bring sunscreen and Dramamine.Sig too big
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Look for a boat called On The Edge. It is parked right at the front of the main marina 3 slips down.Originally posted by BradShaw
I wish I was there I would take you out fishing. When do you leave I arrive next Wed.
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OKay, help me out here... define "talent"... can we go specifically for "bunnies and hares"?
Considering that show floor often isn't the hot spot at the miami show, can I ditch the badge and just get a "pink" badge? I suspect many people would be happy to just sit in the hotel all day all night and do nothing - not be part of the show floor, not go to seminars... just hanging out. Many people were "pink badging" the vegas show, just by not bothering to stand in line forever to get into the event.
Now, I think there might be something here. Perhaps for every 2 show badges purchased, you can get one pink badge for talent. So Ron, your 23 or 24 badges would also come with 12 talent badges.
I think that might solve many of the issues.Comment
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Thanks for the support Ron and everyone else.. You know I appriciate it.I really didn't expect it to take off like this but I guess alot of people had the same concerns or had other issues which have been ignoredOriginally posted by RonCAly
I have said my opinions now and I am sorry that I put you in such a hot seat.
I have all the respect in the world for you and I totally understand what it is like to have people yelling at you and not be able to make the call since you are not the owner. For that my Hat is off to you. I guess I just wanted to let AVN know it was not just Roger and a few no names on GFY asking for this.
I must really need to take a vacation. I am sure glad I am going fishing next week in Cabo on my New Boat
So this will be my last post my Dear. Hugs and Kiss till Miami
Ron C
Aly is a Sweet Heart we all know that.. she was given a position without any power which makes it difficult for her to make changes and which is not her fault at all.
If anyone can open AVN's eyes it's Aly I told her already if she couldn't I lost all faith in them.
The ball is in there court now and this will be my last post on this matter as well..
Aly I still love ya Darling
and Ron if she doesn't can I take the job offer
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Since Avn doesn't care about chicks, CCBill should put on a webmaster event the same weekend this year too. You have 3 weeks to plan it and make it happen.Comment
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