Poor gfy posters know nothing about other cultures.
damn.. well spotted.
Jainism (pronounced hahaha712;hahaha676;einhahaha716;hahaha618;zhahaha 652;m) << but really that does not help me understand how to pronounce it! :D jay-nism i would guess.
EDIT: im guessing gfy doesnt like those characters either!
Although Adolph Hitler adopted that symbol in 1920 and destroyed its true meaning it the history as you call it of the swastika dates back much further and has more peaceful connections. He looks indian so that symbol means something completely different to him and his culture. If anyone is interested in a good short informative read check this out.
Hell, during WWI a division of the US Military even donned the symbol on a shoulder patch.
"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01
Even if hes a jain worshipper he should try to get a new shirt:
In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)
I think the victory of the Aryan man thing here could be a problem...
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So since the KKK burns cross on blacks people's yards Christians should stop using it as a symbol? The swastika was used by other cultures LONG before Hitler perverted it.
In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)
Now take another look at the guy`s shirt.
Now take a look at the original swastika:
Notice it`s not turned in any angles.
I think the guy was either fooled or he thinks he`s funny.
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uh yeah ... ok ... thanks for your quick class on "culture for the ignorant"
the swastika as it is shown on his shirt is from Nazi's. no religion shows it as left handed, at 45 degrees, in a circle with red background.
... the swastika was also worn by the US military.
The Nazi swastika and the shirt both show right facing swastikas.
Here's a left handled swastika in a circle on a red background. Its on a Buddhist temple in Korea. You make a point about the 45 degree angle, though. I guess one out of four isn't that bad.
Since symbols often have many meanings, which meaning is more relevant; its meaning to the maker, its meaning to the user, or its meaning to the observer?
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
--H.L. Mencken
first of all, the svastika is mostly hinduist, although it is also used in buddhism. buddhist svastikas outside of india are now 'sauvastikas', ie left-facing. in hidnduism, svastikas look different (they are usually accompanied by dots). in any case, the 45 degree one is a nazi symbol, no doubt about it.
So is this not a Christian cross because its displayed at an angle?
Furthermore, does it show a Christian fish or a pink breast cancer ribbon?
youre an idiot. the christian cross derives its symbolism from the kind of object it depicts, namely a cross. the svastika derives its symbolism from the way it *looks* - thats why a svastika is a symbol of good and a reversed svastika (sauvastika) is a symbol of evil in hinduism.
hitler coopted the svastika and the 'aryan' denomination, despite having no claim to either. anyone see a blonde persian guy lately?
youre an idiot. the christian cross derives its symbolism from the kind of object it depicts, namely a cross. the svastika derives its symbolism from the way it *looks*
Care to explain more about how the symbolism is derived from its appearence? Does displaying it at an angle change its meaning?
Originally posted by hotstuff
thats why a svastika is a symbol of good and a reversed svastika (sauvastika) is a symbol of evil in hinduism.
That's not unique to swastikas (or however you want to spell it) or hinduism. Reversing a "good" symbol often results in an "evil" symbol. In Christianity the cross is a symbol of God/Jesus and the inverted cross is often a symbol of Satan (or St. Peter).
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
--H.L. Mencken
In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea,...
If you dont think the angle makes a difference maybe the colors?
Anyway it seems we are not going to reach an agreement on this thread
any time soon ...
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