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Buying a new lens for Canon wich one is better? heed pro help

12-02-2006, 05:38 AM

Hi I am buying a new lens for Canon EOS 30D and can't figure out wich lens is better for shooting adult content Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

or Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

The first one has no Image Satbilizer but f/2,8 but the second one has IM but has f/4.0. As i heard the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM is better.
We are allready shooting with Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM, but it's not mine and i want to get more zoom, but if the 24-105 mm is not so good as 24-70? What is your guess? Need pro help

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12-02-2006, 05:45 AM

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM is pretty good I've shot with it, but if you need that 105mm and are willing to go to 4.0, then there you are.

Here's a site for lens reviews: http://www.photodo.com/products.html...e=Canon+EF+USM

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12-02-2006, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Juilan

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM is pretty good I've shot with it, but if you need that 105mm and are willing to go to 4.0, then there you are.

Here's a site for lens reviews: http://www.photodo.com/products.html...e=Canon+EF+USM

Thanxx for the link of lens reviews.

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12-02-2006, 05:57 AM

I currently have the EF24-70mm , shoots very nicely..

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12-02-2006, 06:01 AM

Depends on what you're shooting. If it's hardcore, get the 24-105, if it's solo girls, get the f2.8, you'll want the extra f stop.
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12-02-2006, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Star 69

Hi I am buying a new lens for Canon EOS 30D and can't figure out wich lens is better for shooting adult content Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

or Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

The first one has no Image Satbilizer but f/2,8 but the second one has IM but has f/4.0. As i heard the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM is better.
We are allready shooting with Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM, but it's not mine and i want to get more zoom, but if the 24-105 mm is not so good as 24-70? What is your guess? Need pro help

I use 17-35, 28-70 and 70-200 on occasion . . all 2.8 glass. why would you need image stabilization in a 24-105? I would go with the better glass . . and then get something 'long' when ya get some more $$$, then pick up a wide zoom . .
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12-02-2006, 06:31 AM

i'm a noob.. so don't interpret this as 'pro' advice.. but i'd think you'd typically be fine with f/4.. if you invest in f/4 lenses you could get 2-3 for the cost of the 16-35, for example.

on that note, i've been messing with the 17-40 L and it shoots great. what camera body are you using? if it's a crop body as opposed to a full frame, the 17-40 might not be wide enough.. and the 24-105 might be too tight

edit: i'm an idiot, you said 30d.. that has a 1.6x crop which means the 17mm = 27mm and 24mm = 38mm. keep that in mind.

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12-02-2006, 08:05 AM

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I use 17-35, 28-70 and 70-200 on occasion . . all 2.8 glass. why would you need image stabilization in a 24-105? I would go with the better glass . . and then get something 'long' when ya get some more $$$, then pick up a wide zoom . .

Seems like i wil get 24-70 mm f/2,8 . Thanxx for advice

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12-02-2006, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by studiocritic

i'm a noob.. so don't interpret this as 'pro' advice.. but i'd think you'd typically be fine with f/4.. if you invest in f/4 lenses you could get 2-3 for the cost of the 16-35, for example.

on that note, i've been messing with the 17-40 L and it shoots great. what camera body are you using? if it's a crop body as opposed to a full frame, the 17-40 might not be wide enough.. and the 24-105 might be too tight

edit: i'm an idiot, you said 30d.. that has a 1.6x crop which means the 17mm = 27mm and 24mm = 38mm. keep that in mind.

Yes I have Canon 30D and it has 1.6x crop i know that. But how you can say that if i will invest money in f/4.0 if that lens Canon EF 28-105mm L IS cost 1337$ and Canon EF 28-70 f/2,8 L USM cost 1455$ here in Russia. I could not get 2-3 lenses.

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12-02-2006, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Star 69

Yes I have Canon 30D and it has 1.6x crop i know that. But how you can say that if i will invest money in f/4.0 if that lens Canon EF 28-105mm L IS cost 1337$ and Canon EF 28-70 f/2,8 L USM cost 1455$ here in Russia. I could not get 2-3 lenses.

cheaper than nikon glass . . . my 28-70 was around $1600 usd the 17-35 similar cost and the 70-200 was about $1800 usd
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12-02-2006, 08:56 AM

I have the 24-70 2.8 and it's a great all-around lens for content production. One of my assistants has the 24-105 lens and she uses it for weddings and portraits and absolutely loves it. That IS (internal stabilization) is amazing and will allow you to drop your shutter speed down to about 3 stops less then what you could use without it. If you do a lot of shooting using natural light - you'll find the IS feature very nice! I have the 70-200 2.8 IS and I use the IS feature every time I use that lens - it's simply amazing.

If the 24-70 doesn't give you enough zoom, the 24-105 will work perfectly for you!

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12-02-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by DeanCapture

I have the 24-70 2.8 and it's a great all-around lens for content production. One of my assistants has the 24-105 lens and she uses it for weddings and portraits and absolutely loves it. That IS (internal stabilization) is amazing and will allow you to drop your shutter speed down to about 3 stops less then what you could use without it. If you do a lot of shooting using natural light - you'll find the IS feature very nice! I have the 70-200 2.8 IS and I use the IS feature every time I use that lens - it's simply amazing.

If the 24-70 doesn't give you enough zoom, the 24-105 will work perfectly for you!

We shoot mostly indoor, so we use softboxes and umbrellas or bouncing light. So IS is not the main feature. But still can't deside what kind of lens to buy. Thanxx for your advice

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12-02-2006, 10:11 AM

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...s-Reviews.aspx

this site reviews all the canon lenses and what capicity theyre best suited for, camparrisons ect

then hit this forum

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1019

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12-02-2006, 10:17 AM

Go with the 2.8...
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12-02-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Star 69

or Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

$50 to $100 rebate

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...SM-Lens-Rebate

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12-02-2006, 10:51 AM

I vote for 24-70, the less zoom the better quality.
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12-02-2006, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by jonesy

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...s-Reviews.aspx

this site reviews all the canon lenses and what capicity theyre best suited for, camparrisons ect

then hit this forum

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1019

That's a good forum. I allready hang on it. Anyway thanxx

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12-02-2006, 11:29 AM

First what kind of content are you shooting?
Second how do you shoot? studio, location, outside?

Do you shoot naturally or with lights?

Basically most Pros with Canon equipment will have the 24-70 and also a 70-200. The other lens might be great for the extra zoom but what you need is a 70-200 2.8 f to round out your collection of lenses.

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12-02-2006, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by AllStar

First what kind of content are you shooting?
Second how do you shoot? studio, location, outside?

Do you shoot naturally or with lights?

Basically most Pros with Canon equipment will have the 24-70 and also a 70-200. The other lens might be great for the extra zoom but what you need is a 70-200 2.8 f to round out your collection of lenses.

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12-03-2006, 10:22 AM

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12-03-2006, 11:58 AM

I would do the f/2.8. You can do a lot with creative depth of field and do some much nicer low light shots with this aperture.

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12-03-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Star 69

We use studio lights and when we shoot outside we use natural light and some time flash with reflectors.

Constant light or strobe? If you are shooting strobe and are ok with the loss of depth of field control and low light shooting, the f4 will work. Again though, if it were me personally, I would get the f2.8 24-70 and a f2.8 70-200. This allows for a great range of shots with outstanding depth of field control (and is what I personally have, well the Nikon eqiv.)

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12-03-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by jonesy

$50 to $100 rebate

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...SM-Lens-Rebate

Canon rebate offers are not global. I don't think he'll be getting back $50-$100 in the ukraine.
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12-04-2006, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Khun

Constant light or strobe? If you are shooting strobe and are ok with the loss of depth of field control and low light shooting, the f4 will work. Again though, if it were me personally, I would get the f2.8 24-70 and a f2.8 70-200. This allows for a great range of shots with outstanding depth of field control (and is what I personally have, well the Nikon eqiv.)

We are shooting with strobe. Thanxx a lot

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12-04-2006, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by rowan

Canon rebate offers are not global. I don't think he'll be getting back $50-$100 in the ukraine.

I am in Russia right now, lol

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