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07-14-2005, 06:20 AM

I started wondering today whether it makes a difference for search engines if programs would have affiliates link to www.paysite.com/index.php?wid=1234 instead of something like www.paysite.com/wm.php?wid=1234 or www.paysite.com/wm/1234/

Google by my knowledge gives every page an individual pagerank and a general combined pagerank for the domain, so if www.paysite.com/index.php has a high pagerank instead of wm.php, then maybe it is measured into google's global pagerank for the domain www.paysite.com and results in better listings for the domain.

Am I onto something here?
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07-14-2005, 06:32 AM

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07-14-2005, 06:55 AM

depends on the script
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07-14-2005, 07:00 AM

you mean on the search engine?
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07-14-2005, 07:07 AM

page.php?wm=23
page.php?wm=23534
page.php?wm=422

*can* be seen as 3 pages. it's hard to say if it always is seen as that, there are uncertainties. i expect at least that in the future google can distinguish between page=1, page=2, page=3 and referer=1,referer=2, referer=3 thanks to on page factors.

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07-14-2005, 07:36 AM

yes, what i'm wondering is if a domain will get _more_ added to pagerank when affiliates links to www.paysite.com or www.paysite.com/index.php, instead of www.paysite.com/wm.php
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07-14-2005, 07:38 AM

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07-14-2005, 07:40 AM

yes, google distinguishes between .php?page=1 and and .php?wm=2 and .php?wm=1234 ....but what about www.paysite.com/?1234 one could do the $http_get_vars[0] parameter catching for example... does google count it same as www.paysite.com and if so will it give extra bonus.
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07-14-2005, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by horny-guy

page.php?wm=23
page.php?wm=23534
page.php?wm=422

*can* be seen as 3 pages. it's hard to say if it always is seen as that, there are uncertainties. i expect at least that in the future google can distinguish between page=1, page=2, page=3 and referer=1,referer=2, referer=3 thanks to on page factors.

True enough.
Check your log files. If you see the robots hitting (in this example) page.php repeateadly with different IDs (wm=123, wm=456, etc.) it's a sign it *may* be seeing them as different pages.

Next, do a site:[domain] search a see if these URLs are getting listed - likely they will just be a URL with no description or cache (for Google). If so, the pages are definetly being seen as different pages.

One solution is to "cloak" robots by 301ing the page to a blank URL (page.php?wm=123 -> page.php). You likely won't get penalized as the 2 pages are the same.

But whatever you do, under NO circumstance, use ID= (as in, page.php?ID=123). Google says straight out "don't" - it often will see this as a session ID - another bad thing to be passing in URLs...

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07-14-2005, 08:24 AM

ahaaa.... so if we'd use www.paysite.com/index.php?id=1234, would google count it as www.paysite.com/index.php ? - Cause if it would seem to google that all affiliates would be linking to the same page - index.php, index.php would get a better pagerank instead of it being divided by multiple pages... then again, a site's total pagerank is also measured by the number of pages it has, so which is better index.php having an excellent pagerank, incase the above ?id= trick would work, or the site having more pages and a total higher pagerank.

Third, if the site has more pages only due to wm code, the content would be similar/same, so there could be a danger of being penalized for that.
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07-14-2005, 08:29 AM

So in short the choice is whether to "cloack" the parameter pages into page.php and get a higher pagerank for those pages. Or get the pages measured as separate pages, increasing the site's total page rank, but also the chance of getting penalized due to identical content.
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07-14-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

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07-14-2005, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by llporter

SEO with a good niche means money, conversions and rebills!

...i've been also wondering whether those short and "informational" posts are really smart bots or really cheap philippinos
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07-14-2005, 08:46 AM

My current conclusion is that the best method SEO wise would be to use www.paysite.com/?id=1234 + extra cloaking mentioned above, incase some bots also read the id parameter, this way www.paysite.com/ would gather the most pagerank. Anyone disagree?

Downside is that most heavily trafficked page - index.* would have extra code.
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07-14-2005, 08:54 AM

post your real link, I have an idea on how to run it through google.

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