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  • ice9
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 3

    #1

    Panicking over 2257, help.

    Hello all,

    As an adult webmaster in the business for a just over a year now I am a little concerned about the new 2257 regulations. I am not sure first of all *what* the new requirements are, as I have seen varying degrees of specificity on different websites and forums, and very scant information from an 'official' source.

    I understand that the only a few weeks remain until the new 2257 rules are enforced, and that people have already started preparing their 2257 documentation system. From what I understand, the new rules require 'cross-referenced' URLs along with full model info. It seems that they're basically asking for us to set up a dedicated 2257 database server with all the model information.

    This demand poses a challenge involving both privacy as well as technical issues. How is one expected to integrate 2257 information seemlessly into the website, and even if it *is* somehow incorporated into the site, how does one protect the identity of the models involved? Granted they are plastering their faces (and other recognizable body parts) onto film, I don't think any model would acquiesce to his or her passport, driver's license, and home address being available for the frequently creepy people out there.

    So to look for 2257 compliance information I (as usual) started my search on Google. I found a few not-so-useful links talking about it with little certainty, though I also found a few tools people were selling. My logic is that if I buy a product that basically sets up everything for me, I won't have to do the intensive research required. This is not very good reasoning, but still I'm curious about these little tools that have emerged. Now, some were standalone products, others were free plugins to content-management systems.

    I'm seriously considering buying some of these, which I have no problem paying $50 dollars for, however, I'd like to get some feedback on which ones are effective and which ones are duds. Ideally I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars -- something under a $100 will do. I'm going to list everything I found, as a way to get some discussion underway.

    (option #1: 2257MadeEasy)

    The first thing I saw on the Google Adwords bar was '2257MadeEasy', which I saw redirected to '2257Tool' as well. Their URLs are www.2257MadeEasy.com and www.2257Tool.com, respectively. Apparently this is a front-end to Microsoft Excel spreadsheets, which requires IIS installed. I read something about it on another board, and not too many people raved about it. I noticed that they revamped their website recently, and turned it into a really pathetic (in my humble opinion) copywriting assignment. Here's a direct quote of the one of the first things you see on their webpage:

    Fact: You can go to Federal Prison if your records aren't PERFECT!!!

    Fact: If you even place one record out of order, you can go to prison for 5 years!

    Fact: Don't have all your records properly cross-indexed? You could face prison time!

    Fact: You can be searched whenever they want, and they don't even have to warn you!

    Fact: Do you have every exact location for all of your files? If not, you're in trouble!
    I find this hillarious. Scare-tactics like this really don't help win my trust -- they only add to my skepticism. If the product works, it should sell itself. One shouldn't have to instill fear into the customer so that they complete the purchase. Anyhow, I tried to find a price on how much, and they don't seem to have a product you can order, yet. This is my working hypothesis. However, they do have a downloadable demo, I believe, but I didn't bother to download it as I really, really, really loathe IIS.

    (option #2: Zofex)

    Interestingly enough, nowadays when one types the search term "2257" in Google the result is no longer 2257MadeEasy or 2257Tool. Rather, it is a link to a product called 'Zofex'. I find their marketing idea neat: Zofex, like some sort of prescription drug, is a clinical, industrial-strength remedy to the 2257 compliance problem. However, I found the same antics as the previous option---pathetic attempts at scare tactics. "This pill will keep you OUT of jail." Basically after reading their entire website I get the feeling it's an online solution where they host the 2257 model information and the investigator can log in directly if they so desire. However, I believe this may not be 2257 compliant as one has to do their own records and has to have them on their own server within their reach. They don't have a price on how much their service runs, and they displayed a toll-free number to call instead. I'm assuming it is like one of those overpriced electronic products on 'discount' websites, where they say 'Price too low, please call'. And when I actually did call once it was something like double the price of a comparable product. Alternatively, they may not actually have a product yet like the 2257MadeEasy people above. I don't know, but I'm too lazy to call a toll-free number and have risk the possibility of some sleazy telemarketer attempt use pathetic scare-tactics to influence my purchasing habits. Okay onto the next thing I found.

    (option #3: HyperCompliance)

    I found this too on Google adwords as it keeps popping in and out below the Zofex link depending on which day you try (very weird). Their website is www.HyperCompliance.com. My first impression on this website is that I wanted to yawn. Although I did appreciate the fact that it was very professionally laid out, there were no scare tactics or anything, the site layout is not very engaging if they are trying to sell a product. They *do* have some screenshots of the product, but I'm still wondering how it works. From what it seems, it is a PHP script that works as a database server for 2257 information. I emailed them earlier today asking for a demo script, so I'll write a follow-up later on whether I did receive it or not. I like the price, $59, however the website doesn't provide more insight into their program. I like to know *exactly* what I am purchasing. Their solution *seems* promising, but I can't say too much since I haven't actually used their product.

    (option #4: MansionProductions)
    I've known about MansionProductions for a while, so when I saw a post on their 2257 plugin the other day I knew exactly where to go. What can I say, their website is pretty amazing. Very shnazy and all. However, their 2257 module is only a module. It's not a standalone product of any kind, so you actually have to purchase the MembersAreaSystem software for a one-time low price of ... $3,995.00. Good lord. For that much, I could get a small house, a car, and three servants... in Mexico. Seriously speaking, that is an enormous amount for small-time webmasters like myself.

    Okay I am getting pretty tired writing this post and I shall have to bring it to a close. If anyone has *any* feedback on the 2257-related information and/or tools I beg of you to please give your input. I have spent a great deal of time constructing a comprehensive post, so hopefully I can get equally substantive responses.


    Thanks
  • eroswebmaster
    March 1st, 2003
    • Jul 2001
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    #2
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    • Johny Traffic
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      • Apr 2003
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      #3
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          • Apr 2003
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          • Jace
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            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            hire a lawyer and figure it out

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              • Apr 2002
              • 6326

              #7
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              • LiveDose
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                • Feb 2002
                • 25792

                #8
                Originally posted by ice9
                It's not a standalone product of any kind, so you actually have to purchase the MembersAreaSystem software for a one-time low price of ... $3,995.00. Good lord. For that much, I could get a small house, a car, and three servants... in Mexico.

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                • Yo Adrian
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                  • Apr 2002
                  • 6326

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LiveDose
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                  • chemicaleyes
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 11569

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Johny Traffic
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                    • PerSignup Esco
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 127

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                      Somehow I have the feeling there is spam hidden in that message somewhere.
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                      • Minister of Information
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 15

                        #12
                        We will not put you in Jail for 2257. Please return to your homes.

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                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 30307

                          #13
                          Blake is that you?

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                          • Antonio
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 14136

                            #14
                            here's you ultimate 2257 solution, stop stressing

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                            • riddler
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 3726

                              #15
                              now thats some creative spam.. *cough*

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                              • fris
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 55792

                                #16
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                                • peephole
                                  Registered User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 9

                                  #17
                                  I purchased both 2257madeeasy and my my2257records, after using both I went with my2257records. Both are good products and you might consider trying them both out to see which one you like.

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                                  • wjxxx
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 4448

                                    #18
                                    The best solution for 2257 thingy is 2k $ in grey envelope. When they come for inspection you`ll give them cash and problem solved. Just be sure to videotape this.

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                                    • BuggyG
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 4179

                                      #19
                                      too long to read
                                      and sounds too much like a sale's pitch
                                      so gave up early

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                                      • basschick
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 2540

                                        #20
                                        i only read part of it... but if this post was legit, the law went into effect june 23. you were legally obligated to be compliant with 2257 on that date.
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                                        • iac
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                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 419

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Johny Traffic
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                                          • TheShark
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                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 39

                                            #22
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                                            • ice9
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 3

                                              #23
                                              Wow, nevermind then..

                                              Wow, I've never come under attack for taking the time to write a decent post. Maybe I am just too old-fashioned.

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                                              • azguy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 5167

                                                #24
                                                2257? What 2257?

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                                                • kernelpanic
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                  • 2961

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                  Somehow I have the feeling there is spam hidden in that message somewhere.
                                                  I get that feeling too


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                                                  • ice9
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                    • 3

                                                    #26
                                                    uhm how in the world is that spam

                                                    You guys are truly the most cynical people i've encountered... calling my post spam? I think my question has been answered, though not in a very satisfying way --- pay someone to do the research for you or hire a lawyer.

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                                                    • 2257-Ben
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                      • 633

                                                      #27
                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=491744
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                                                      • Tipsy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 6989

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ice9
                                                        You guys are truly the most cynical people i've encountered... calling my post spam? I think my question has been answered, though not in a very satisfying way --- pay someone to do the research for you or hire a lawyer.
                                                        ...and also take notice of the date comment. Where on earth did you get the idea 'a few weeks are remaining'?
                                                        Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                        • Tipsy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6989

                                                          #29
                                                          Oh - I meant to say it too. Of course it's fucking spam. A decent post? Nah - just a lame attempt at making bad spam look pretty.
                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                          • fusionx
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 4618

                                                            #30
                                                            http://www.fight2257.com/2257-softwa...2257-software/

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                                                            • CheneyRumsfeld
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                              • 1341

                                                              #31


                                                              do any of you braindead fuckwads know who this is?
                                                              that is how long 2257 has been around.

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                                                              • mardigras
                                                                Bon temps!
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 14194

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Minister of Information
                                                                We will not put you in Jail for 2257. Please return to your homes.
                                                                ...Provided your city hasn't given them to Walmart
                                                                .

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