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Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
the worse thing is when people bring in their whiny ass kids in.
they are kids, they are supposed to get sick! wow he has a headache who fucking cares, they are supposed to build up their immune system.
i cannot stand hospitals, the past 2 times i have went there is always some fat ass mothers and their whiny kids, "o he couldnt sleep" so why the hell are you are the fucking hospital?
people are such fucking pussies.Comment
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Originally posted by Relish XXX
I don't know of any state that does not offer afforable health care . . . ie: a county funded hospitalComment
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A few pissed off folks who donated to pr0 the last time he was in need with no medical insurance have been ICQing me.
I'm not the ringleader here
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Originally posted by candyflip
Yes . . . people have short memoriesComment
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One of my friends gave him money last time he was ill. We have the paypal records here.Originally posted by baddog
Seems like this fuck is ill on a regular basis.
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Bad Dog ICQ?
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! ! BINGO ! !Originally posted by MetaMan
Children are made of rubber ... they fall; they recover only to fall again.
Another thing I find messed with our system; you can visit dermatologist, but not a dentist.Last edited by Paco, of Large Cash.; 07-12-2005, 11:42 AM.Comment
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16075497Originally posted by Relish XXXComment
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Originally posted by sperbonzoSorry, but I lived under universal health care in the UK, and in Australia, and I'll take the US system ANYTIME. I don't think that people without health insurance are lazy, I just think that they don't make it a priority and they choose to spend their money elsewhere.... and this coming from someone that at one point was completely homeless and built myself up with no ones help. As for your friend that died, I know plenty that died just WAITING for care under universal health care systems. Look at how bad the government is about spending our money as it is.... You want to give them MORE money and power to play with?
Not me buddy
I somewhat agree. The govt fucks everything up they get their hands on, but there are problems that need to be corrected. As far as people not making it a priority and spending their money elsewhere, I don't believe that to be true for the majority without coverage. I personally pay over $900 a month for coverage (for a family of 3), a lot of people simply cannot afford it. I feel the govt isnt doing a thing to address the skyrocketing costs, Bush wants to blame lawsuits, bullshit. Its the drug companies and hospitals charging outragous costs and getting away with it. Why are the same drugs cheaper in Canada?Comment
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Originally posted by Relish XXX
Yet you started this thread.Comment
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I am guessing you could get higher deductibles and co-pays, or go thru a different insurer and get lower rates. Of course, you could pay more if you wanted too also.Originally posted by ThunderBallsComment
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I think he was being sarcastic, but was then notified by "his mate" about what went down in the past.Originally posted by baddog
At least that's what I'm getting from "his mate"
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can you let me add you 62556745Originally posted by baddog
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authorization requested . . . . oh, there you areOriginally posted by Relish XXXComment
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So let me get this straight - he signed the paperwork that said he a $1Mil cap and expected them to pay more? How much did he pay in for that $1Mil worth of services he got? I bet a LOT less than $1Mil that extended his life more than if he had used the premiums to pay for his own healthcare.Originally posted by ThunderBalls
I am very sorry for the loss of your friend, but everything has maximums, as they should have. Your friend was just too sick for continued coverage under his
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It would make more sense if a cradle-to-grave system would be fair: either those that maintain a less healthy life style (smoke, obese etc) pay more, or health conscious people pay less.Comment
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The ignorance of southern bitchesOriginally posted by PeachesComment
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when you go to the hospital,,just give them a fake name
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I'd rather be living in the socialist canada then in the capitalist USA ... that's itOriginally posted by rayadp05Comment
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
ahhhh.....spoken with the true tolerance of the left
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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Now THAT is a fair and even-handed statement. People shoudl choose what system they prefer!
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I believe this is already the case. When I got my insurance, they asked height/weight, do I smoke, any health problems, etc. I believe I pay more because I am a smoker.Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.Comment
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My bad ... I should have added, in Canada. Yes, the US does offer a more fair system (IME), and wish Canada would.Originally posted by jennymComment
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Let me school some of the uneducated in this thread...
1-) The US DOES have free health care. In fact, MILLIONS of people get free health care AND prescriptions. It's based on your income. In NY state where I live, ALL children, regardless of their parents' income can get FREE health care. Including dental. It's called Kid's Health Plus. They don't send them to crappy free clinics either, it's a doctor of their choice.
Also in NY state we have Hudson Valley Health Plus or something like that. My mom has no income, I support her financially 100%, she has osteo-arthritis and gets all her health care, dental, AND prescriptions paid for. She doesn't go to free clinics or "charity hospitals" (as someone ignorantly called them). She goes to ANY doctor she wants that accepts the insurance. Yes, it's limited to which doctors accept it, but that's just like any other insurance. Some doctors take some and not others.
2-) pr0 DID NOT ASK FOR DONATIONS
3-) The US makes health insurance very hard to get. You either have to have little to no income to have it paid for, be over 65 and get Medic-Care, and/or you have to be able to afford the premiums. In NY, Blue Cross wants $500/month for a SINGLE person policy. I don't have health insurance at this time and hope that I don't need it anytime soon.
The reason insurance is so much money in the US is not because of the government entirely, it's because of the lawsuits and people who abuse it. I have several hypocondriacs in my own family. My one aunt used up all of her insurance and they actually cancelled her for going to doctors 3 or 4 times a week. US citizens are addicted to all sorts of prescription meds. Nearly everyone takes some kind of prescription drug that these drug companies have led people to believing they need.
4-) pr0 DID NOT ASK FOR DONATIONS
5-) No country has 'free' health insurance. You pay for one way or another.Comment
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Originally posted by sperbonzoahhhh.....spoken with the true tolerance of the left
Not at all, just a low tolerance to ignorant hypocrites. The same people that are against universal health care are the same people that claim to be pro life yet have no problem with people not getting proper medical treatment in what is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. These are the same people that fight to protect unborn children yet have no problem letting them starve once they are born. Pro life my ass, the right have killed more people than any other group since the Nazis. In reality they are pro death.Comment
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Okay, now I am lost . . . you are saying he spent more than $1 million in premiums?
Don't you think there comes a point that you are throwing good money after bad?
Personally, I would rather just go ahead and die.Comment
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No reason to be a bitch.....that is what they call them here.Originally posted by Furious_Female
I have very decent insurance for $150.00/month. If you are not "poor", that is easily affordable. Juicy is in NY, and he has EXCELLENT coverage for less than $400.00/month.Originally posted by Furious_FemaleComment
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hmmmmm...... I wonder what it must be like to be able to read peoples minds...... You are truly an amazing individual. I wish I was able to know every stand that a person took on every issue from so little data. That must be cool!Originally posted by ThunderBalls
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That sure is a broad sweeping statement. I am against universal health care, and am pro-choice.Originally posted by ThunderBallsComment
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Originally posted by Furious_Female
Quit buying into the republican lie. Here's an article just put out today that dispells that bullshit.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551575/
Don't blame lawsuits for rising health costs
Study finds high price of services, drugs account for steep expenses
WASHINGTON - Higher prices and not lawsuits or other factors have driven up health care costs in the United States, according to a study published Tuesday.
Malpractice awards in the United States amounted to only $16 per capita in 2001, compared with $12 in Britain and $10 in Australia, the team at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore found.
The same team found in 2002 that Americans pay more for prescription drugs, hospital stays and doctor visits than citizens of other industrialized countries.Comment
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Yes, I know Juicy lives in NY and has Blue Cross. I have had Blue Cross/Blue Shield before, when I called Blue Cross a few months ago, they wanted $500/month for a single person policy now.Originally posted by jennymLast edited by Furious_Female; 07-12-2005, 12:46 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by jennym
Of course you are, you live in the south
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For what kind of coverage? I have the $1000 deductible with $20 Dr. visits, $25 name brand prescrips and $2mil max for less than $350 a month and I'm 43.Originally posted by Furious_Female
I could get catastrophic insurance (higher deductible, I pay for doctor visits and 100% of prescrips until I hit my deductible, then I pay 20%) for less than $150 a month.
They have many many plans.
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Well, I'm pro choice, but I have ZERO idea what that has to do with realizing every kind of insurance on the planet has maximum payouts, lol!Originally posted by ThunderBalls
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All people in the south are pro-choice?Originally posted by ThunderBallsOf course you are, you live in the south
I may be a "redneck", but I have health insurance, and pay my own way
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DittoOriginally posted by jennymI may be a "redneck", but I have health insurance, and pay my own way
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Originally posted by Furious_Female
You talk about ignorance, and follow it up with that comment?
You know how many offers for insurance I get in the mail every week? The funny thing is, I just tore up one I received in the mail about 5 minutes before reading your post.Comment
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Do we need a Red GFY and a Blue GFY?
and how the hell did pro life/death come in to this conv? Leave that shit at the door, please. (Where's my fucking coathanger!)Comment
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
You do realize that medicine is a for profit industry, as is insurance.Comment
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Well, to be fair, an "offer" doesn't really mean anything. I get offers for $100,000 personal credit cards twice a week, if I really applied I would probably be dropped down to something much less. You receive all of those offers because the insurance companies buy your name off of a list and send out an "offer" to everyone.Originally posted by baddog
But yeh, insurance isn't THAT hard to get for a typical person, but for someone with pre-existing conditions it gets much more difficult depending on the condition. I have friends with no insurance that claim its too expensive yet eat out 3 nights a week. Its fine if a person would rather pay for entertainment than insurance, but to whine that insurance is "too expensive" is silly. There are solutions out there, just need to look.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Originally posted by PeachesFor what kind of coverage? I have the $1000 deductible with $20 Dr. visits, $25 name brand prescrips and $2mil max for less than $350 a month and I'm 43.
I could get catastrophic insurance (higher deductible, I pay for doctor visits and 100% of prescrips until I hit my deductible, then I pay 20%) for less than $150 a month.
They have many many plans.
I'm not sure exactly... it was for a single person plan, full coverage, prescriptions etc. I believe they paid 80%... all I know is that the single person plan and the family plans weren't much different.Comment
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Basically, ThunderBalls said those of us against universal healthcare are pro-choice assholes, who want everyone "born", but don't want to take care of people who are here. I was just giving my stance on the issue so he would know he is wrong. (Passing you my coathanger to borrow, but next time use a fucking condom!)Originally posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
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Ok, well I live in NY and I can honestly say I've never received an offer in the mail for insurance. Everything in NY is more expensive. From utilities to insurance... we pay considerably more. The US (at least NY state) makes it hard to AFFORD insurance. Surely if it was in fact easier, more people would have it, no?Originally posted by baddog
I also know when you miss a payment or 2 (maybe 3?) with Blue Cross, they cancel you and make you wait a year before you can join again.Comment
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I was the one who crashed the car pr0 was injured in.
Any medical bills would be covered by me.
So that point is pretty much null. Anyone saying pr0 asked for anything regarding this wreck can give me a toothy blowjob AND a reacharound as pr0 hasnt asked anyone here for anything regarding this car wreck.
Nice sigwhore post though relish
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Like I put in another threadOriginally posted by treeI was the one who crashed the car pr0 was injured in.
Any medical bills would be covered by me.
So that point is pretty much null. Anyone saying pr0 asked for anything regarding this wreck can give me a toothy blowjob AND a reacharound as pr0 hasnt asked anyone here for anything regarding this car wreck.
Nice sigwhore post though relish
I think people were reacting to the posts that you made
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Not having universal healthcare really takes a toll on the middle class...if something bad happens you can lose your $500,000 house, your car, everything. Oh & bush passed a new law saying you can't declare bankruptcy based on medical bills. But fuck him,
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If the doctor refers me to the emergency room then the auto insurance should pay for it. Otherwise anyone in canada feel like having me up for a friendly visit?
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Not having insurance can ruin your credit, i'm not worried about payment plants etc., but things like MRI's & private surgeries get sent to collection agencies, & i want to be able to buy a house in florida this fall.
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And i can't keep my fucking leg propped up for 2 months, i've got to work!
It's a catch 22........god i hate our medical system!!!!
And try getting time missed from work when your self employed. I'll have to send them in my quarterlys.
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Would there be a way to get a GFY group policy for all of the webmasters and their families who are self-employed?
Sorry to hear about that pr0. Get better soon.You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that.
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Originally posted by jennymBasically, ThunderBalls said those of us against universal healthcare are pro-choice assholes, who want everyone "born", but don't want to take care of people who are here. I was just giving my stance on the issue so he would know he is wrong. (Passing you my coathanger to borrow, but next time use a fucking condom!)
LOL, adda-girl ... I love your sense of hah-hah. (I appreciate it, but there is no need ... SNIP!)
It just breaks my heart watching everyone with an opinion debate, even if some contradict themselves
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this threads title didnt say ( pr0's beliefs on medical care ) it called him an idiot and then several people went on to say he was asking for money. Which he was not.Originally posted by sperbonzoComment
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