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  • RegUser
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 1472
    #51
    okie

    anyone lese from Canada who knows anything about merchant accounts for adult webmasters???????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????

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      • KrisKross
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        • Jan 2006
        • 5025
        #52
        Originally posted by RegUser
        okie

        anyone lese from Canada who knows anything about merchant accounts for adult webmasters???????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????
        Have you not been reading the threads?

        The only Canadian processor that might give you an account is Moneris. Call them up. I'm sure you have to be doing serious volume for them to even consider it, though.

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          • RegUser
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2004
            • 1472
            #53
            Originally posted by KrisKross
            Have you not been reading the threads?

            The only Canadian processor that might give you an account is Moneris. Call them up. I'm sure you have to be doing serious volume for them to even consider it, though.
            chris
            i doubt that the only canadian adult webmasters with adult accounts are the onles that are either doing more than 50k or are with moneris
            i am sure there are many more options its just that somehow they have not shared their info

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              • KrisKross
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2006
                • 5025
                #54
                Originally posted by RegUser
                chris
                i doubt that the only canadian adult webmasters with adult accounts are the onles that are either doing more than 50k or are with moneris
                i am sure there are many more options its just that somehow they have not shared their info
                Honestly, the options are cut and dry. There are no Canadian banks that openly process high risk transactions. If anyone does, then it's done very quietly and likely only if there's high volume involved. People have murmured about Moneris but I've set to see a single site, big or small, processing with them.

                If you're a Canadian who wants to accept Visa, you need to do it with an IPSP or a merchant account from another Visa region. To do so, you need to incorporate in said region.

                Alternately, you can go with some of the fly-by-night companies that aren't Visa compliant. But then you run the risk of losing your cash like with Paymonde, Globill and a handful of other similar IPSPs.

                In terms of merchant accounts, very few companies have their own merchant account for processing. Those that do are often the big guys who have the volume to justify it, and even most of them don't (take a look at the join pages for Gamma, Platinum Bucks and Braincash for example). In terms of cost-effectiveness, it's really not worth it to have a merchant account if you don't have volume. Canadians who have their own merchant account got one by incorporating elsewhere.

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                  • RegUser
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                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1472
                    #55
                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                    Honestly, the options are cut and dry. There are no Canadian banks that openly process high risk transactions. If anyone does, then it's done very quietly and likely only if there's high volume involved. People have murmured about Moneris but I've set to see a single site, big or small, processing with them.

                    If you're a Canadian who wants to accept Visa, you need to do it with an IPSP or a merchant account from another Visa region. To do so, you need to incorporate in said region.

                    Alternately, you can go with some of the fly-by-night companies that aren't Visa compliant. But then you run the risk of losing your cash like with Paymonde, Globill and a handful of other similar IPSPs.

                    In terms of merchant accounts, very few companies have their own merchant account for processing. Those that do are often the big guys who have the volume to justify it, and even most of them don't (take a look at the join pages for Gamma, Platinum Bucks and Braincash for example). In terms of cost-effectiveness, it's really not worth it to have a merchant account if you don't have volume. Canadians who have their own merchant account got one by incorporating elsewhere.
                    Judging by the response i got on this thread, you may be very well right.
                    it looks like options are severely limited

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                      • coolegg2
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2005
                        • 210
                        #56
                        Originally posted by RegUser
                        Judging by the response i got on this thread, you may be very well right.
                        it looks like options are severely limited
                        The other option that has not yet been mentioned is incorporating in the US or EU, with a partner (whom you trust!) who has citizenship in that region to be your "principle" representative with the IPSP. This then opens the door for CCBill and other solid IPSPs which have that requirement.

                        If you have a relative or a friend you can trust then I think this can be the best way depending on the circumstances.

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                          • RegUser
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1472
                            #57
                            Originally posted by coolegg2
                            The other option that has not yet been mentioned is incorporating in the US or EU, with a partner (whom you trust!) who has citizenship in that region to be your "principle" representative with the IPSP. This then opens the door for CCBill and other solid IPSPs which have that requirement.

                            If you have a relative or a friend you can trust then I think this can be the best way depending on the circumstances.

                            actually Yes
                            this currently is the best and sort of permamnent option
                            but partnership is a slippery slope generally when free money for one partner is involved

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                              • KrisKross
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 5025
                                #58
                                Originally posted by coolegg2
                                The other option that has not yet been mentioned is incorporating in the US or EU, with a partner (whom you trust!) who has citizenship in that region to be your "principle" representative with the IPSP. This then opens the door for CCBill and other solid IPSPs which have that requirement.

                                If you have a relative or a friend you can trust then I think this can be the best way depending on the circumstances.
                                This idea has been mentioned several times in the thread. Whether you do it through a friend or do it through a company that specializes in this type of setup, it's still the same.

                                Like RegUser said, partnership is dangerous. I'd rather pay my money to an established ccompany who specializes in this process.

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                                  • RegUser
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 1472
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                    This idea has been mentioned several times in the thread. Whether you do it through a friend or do it through a company that specializes in this type of setup, it's still the same.

                                    Like RegUser said, partnership is dangerous. I'd rather pay my money to an established ccompany who specializes in this process.
                                    yepp me too...I'd rather pay my money to an established ccompany who specializes in this process

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                                      • JimmiDean
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 3433
                                        #60
                                        I started another thread on this matter, and hoe CCBill needed to take the lead on this.
                                        The responce from CCbill at that time was there was little interest from Canadian webmsters for the service.
                                        I still refuse to believe they could not make it work somehow and that it would be finacialy viable for them.
                                        They did mention they may re-look at it and I would urge anyone intereted in this to email them and voice your opinion.
                                        My God there's Porn on here!

                                        Still on the Beach !!!

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                                          • KrisKross
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2006
                                            • 5025
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by JimmiDean
                                            I started another thread on this matter, and hoe CCBill needed to take the lead on this.
                                            The responce from CCbill at that time was there was little interest from Canadian webmsters for the service.
                                            I still refuse to believe they could not make it work somehow and that it would be finacialy viable for them.
                                            They did mention they may re-look at it and I would urge anyone intereted in this to email them and voice your opinion.
                                            I remember 2-3 years ago, CCBill was looking at the possibility of establishing a relationship with a Canadian bank for processing. I think there simply weren't enough webmasters with significant volume who were interested to get CCBill to pursue the idea.

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                                              • RegUser
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 1472
                                                #62
                                                that is true, thats what ccbill said at that time.
                                                what apity that we are lefty with no choice
                                                i wonder what choice adult webmasters from Asia have????
                                                does any one know

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                                                  • KrisKross
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                    • 5025
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by RegUser
                                                    that is true, thats what ccbill said at that time.
                                                    what apity that we are lefty with no choice
                                                    i wonder what choice adult webmasters from Asia have????
                                                    does any one know
                                                    That depends on a few things. First and foremost, these Visa regulations only apply to processing for customers in the Visa USA region. So if an Asian webmaster wants to open a site to Americans, he'd either have to find a processor based in the Visa Asia region, or incorporate elsewhere like we have to.

                                                    I don't think there's a significant amount of webmasters looking to market to the US are based in Asia. I know Deescash and Join Right Now are, but they're incorporate elsewhere.

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                                                      • RegUser
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                        • 1472
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                        That depends on a few things. First and foremost, these Visa regulations only apply to processing for customers in the Visa USA region. So if an Asian webmaster wants to open a site to Americans, he'd either have to find a processor based in the Visa Asia region, or incorporate elsewhere like we have to.

                                                        I don't think there's a significant amount of webmasters looking to market to the US are based in Asia. I know Deescash and Join Right Now are, but they're incorporate elsewhere.
                                                        ok. makes sense

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                                                          • RegUser
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 1472
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by JimmiDean
                                                            I started another thread on this matter, and hoe CCBill needed to take the lead on this.
                                                            The responce from CCbill at that time was there was little interest from Canadian webmsters for the service.
                                                            I still refuse to believe they could not make it work somehow and that it would be finacialy viable for them.
                                                            They did mention they may re-look at it and I would urge anyone intereted in this to email them and voice your opinion.
                                                            ccbill wont be able to do it
                                                            canadian banks wont accpet adult
                                                            looks like we are left out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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                                                              • dready
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 5247
                                                                #66
                                                                I just spent weeks jumping through MANY hoops for Moneris and today was declined for having a teen section in my content store. They had already told me I wasn't doing anything on the prohibited list.
                                                                ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                  • RegUser
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                    • 1472
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by dready
                                                                    I just spent weeks jumping through MANY hoops for Moneris and today was declined for having a teen section in my content store. They had already told me I wasn't doing anything on the prohibited list.
                                                                    that is why i am not too keen on moneris.
                                                                    merchant account for canadian adult web masters seems to be a dream too far

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                                                                      • dready
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 5247
                                                                        #68
                                                                        I was just rejected by Eurobill. They will only do subscription sites without your own merchant account.
                                                                        ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                          • RegUser
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                            • 1472
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by dready
                                                                            I was just rejected by Eurobill. They will only do subscription sites without your own merchant account.
                                                                            thats not a bad thing bro...eurobill is not the best out there

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                                                                              • RegUser
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                                • 1472
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Calico Jack
                                                                                You're more than welcome. I'm an Australian webmaster so I'm in the same boat as you.
                                                                                After looking at the above links it seems the cheapest way to get into Europe appears to be the puchase of a U.K Limited company for a few hundred dollars. Jordans & Secretariatservices both offer packages for this.
                                                                                I haven't made my mind up as to exactly what to do, but Gibralter does look good.
                                                                                As for billing...I've seen others suggesting: http://www.hughesbilling.com/
                                                                                Though I can't say I've ever heard of them. However, that doesn't mean they aren't good...just not as well known.
                                                                                Anyone else have any ideas or solutions? There are plenty of Canadians & Aussies who need these services.
                                                                                now that they too are dead, did you find another one?

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                                                                                  • RegUser
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                    • 1472
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                    Nothing to say about them other than they all have legal expertise and know what they are doing - and familiar with offshore operations. Know most of em and they have been around long before the net.

                                                                                    It's just a matter of what jurisdiction you may want for incorporation - Jordans is prob the largest formation agent in the UK. If you want to establish in Gib - use a Gib agent etc.
                                                                                    Hey Webby
                                                                                    I need to discuss offshore company formation with you as you seem to know a lot and most importantly are straight to the point.
                                                                                    Is there any icq or email address i can contact you at...for no more than 5 minutes I promise. I know what I want, what i need, just need some final clarifications before taking the plunge.

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                                                                                      • RegUser
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                                        • 1472
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        never heard from webby
                                                                                        but
                                                                                        how about the following processors...anyone using them?

                                                                                        2000 Charge - secure transaction services enabling web merchants.
                                                                                        4 Merchant - merchant accounts in multiple currencies.
                                                                                        Adult Card Processing - high risk merchant accounts.
                                                                                        Billing France - micro payments for online services.
                                                                                        Charge Me Later - increase sales while optimizing your conversion ratio.
                                                                                        EZ-Pay - credit card subscription processor.
                                                                                        Global Exchange Billing - additional billing options including 900 pin, international voice call, dialer and SMS.
                                                                                        GSPAY - merchant services account processing.
                                                                                        Merchant World - 3rd party solutions for your billing.
                                                                                        Money Bookers - international and no charge backs.
                                                                                        MS USA - merchant accounts.
                                                                                        Orion Pay - electronic money orders, no chargebacks, and adult sites welcome.
                                                                                        Paysite Cash - european credit card processing and acquiring.
                                                                                        Planet Processors - credit card processing worldwide
                                                                                        Pro Secure Payment - offers to high risk merchants the state of the art processing gateway.
                                                                                        Standard Pay International - payment processing for adult websites
                                                                                        World Wide Billing, Inc. - high risk credit card processing.

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                                                                                          • RegUser
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                                            • 1472
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                                            never heard from webby
                                                                                            but
                                                                                            how about the following processors...anyone using them?

                                                                                            2000 Charge - secure transaction services enabling web merchants.
                                                                                            4 Merchant - merchant accounts in multiple currencies.
                                                                                            Adult Card Processing - high risk merchant accounts.
                                                                                            Billing France - micro payments for online services.
                                                                                            Charge Me Later - increase sales while optimizing your conversion ratio.
                                                                                            EZ-Pay - credit card subscription processor.
                                                                                            Global Exchange Billing - additional billing options including 900 pin, international voice call, dialer and SMS.
                                                                                            GSPAY - merchant services account processing.
                                                                                            Merchant World - 3rd party solutions for your billing.
                                                                                            Money Bookers - international and no charge backs.
                                                                                            MS USA - merchant accounts.
                                                                                            Orion Pay - electronic money orders, no chargebacks, and adult sites welcome.
                                                                                            Paysite Cash - european credit card processing and acquiring.
                                                                                            Planet Processors - credit card processing worldwide
                                                                                            Pro Secure Payment - offers to high risk merchants the state of the art processing gateway.
                                                                                            Standard Pay International - payment processing for adult websites
                                                                                            World Wide Billing, Inc. - high risk credit card processing.
                                                                                            if any of above are dead or dont pay, pls let me know as well

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                                                                                              • Shoplifter
                                                                                                Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 5848
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Oh man oh man oh man I know a secret.

                                                                                                You Canadian guys just wait a little while...

                                                                                                w00t.
                                                                                                I Like Blondes

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                                                                                                  • potter
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                    • 6559
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    lawyers = good

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                                                                                                      • melack
                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                                                        • 96
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        GSPAY - merchant services account processing.
                                                                                                        I have used these guys for mainstream ecommerce for the last year.
                                                                                                        They payout on time and have support on msn which is good.
                                                                                                        I am not sure if they accept adult or not.
                                                                                                        Also if you still need help getting setup in the eu then icq me:
                                                                                                        icq: 413-381-805

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                                                                                                          • Boobgirl
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                                            • 447
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            CCbill will now process for Canadian webmasters
                                                                                                            Dawn Allison
                                                                                                            www.dawnsplace.com
                                                                                                            www.dpdollars.com

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                                                                                                              • Odie
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                                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                • 7040
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                                                                chris
                                                                                                                i doubt that the only canadian adult webmasters with adult accounts are the onles that are either doing more than 50k or are with moneris
                                                                                                                i am sure there are many more options its just that somehow they have not shared their info
                                                                                                                listen to Chris..I've already exhausted every contact I have..and i have hit up every major bank and had my investment banking b/f even try to pull some strings.

                                                                                                                You need to incorp outside of Canada and go from there.
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                                                                                                                  • Odie
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                                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                    • 7040
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Boobgirl
                                                                                                                    CCbill will now process for Canadian webmasters
                                                                                                                    since when??
                                                                                                                    Odie
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                                                                                                                      • spunky99
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                                                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                        • 3462
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        few weeks now

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                                                                                                                          • MediaGuy
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                                                                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                            • 5500
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            I didn't read the whole thread so punch me if this post seems dunce.

                                                                                                                            CCBill (and maybe VISA processors in general) now does online third-party non-tangible for Canadian companies.

                                                                                                                            See: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=840108

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