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Interesting, it is indeed.Originally posted by Chio The PirateYARGH! But the number appears too. When he pulls up the actual ICQ message in question an ICQ # shows (130823758). Is it Aaron's?Comment
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YARGH! Just did a search for that number, and it is Aaron's.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=130823758
I guess the video isn't faked.
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Aaron proves time after time that he is a fucking liar. The sheep fall in behind him and even after HARD PROOF is posted, people still want to side with him because he is a "name".
I guess we all know that he did, in fact, call SOS a few months ago like SOS said he did. THE GUY stole 3600 bucks, and is now caught in lie after lie after lie.
How can any of you feel comfortable doing any business with this guy ever again? He'd lie, cheat, and steal in any situation if that was the best thing for him personally to do.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by Chio The PirateYARGH! Just did a search for that number, and it is Aaron's.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=130823758
I guess the video isn't faked.
LMAO....Of course it's my number.
Not my log though.
Seems to me that sonofsam is really going out of his way to create shit about me.
"Look everybody, here's a video of AaronM threatening me on ICQ. Please believe me and feel sorry for me."
What a tosser.
Believe whatever the fuck you want to believe.....I truly don't give a fuck.
I'm not the one who keeps running to GFY crying wolf.Comment
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Originally posted by Clicky_BucksAaron proves time after time that he is a fucking liar. The sheep fall in behind him and even after HARD PROOF is posted, people still want to side with him because he is a "name".
I guess we all know that he did, in fact, call SOS a few months ago like SOS said he did. THE GUY stole 3600 bucks, and is now caught in lie after lie after lie.
How can any of you feel comfortable doing any business with this guy ever again? He'd lie, cheat, and steal in any situation if that was the best thing for him personally to do.
Yep...You're right. I'm really a lying thief and a coward. PLEASE never consider doing business with me.
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Deny Deny Deny. Admit nothing, counteraccuse.
You have run out of plausable deniability at this point.
Wait, say you are done with this thread and won't respond again.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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YARGH???? That don't be makin' much sense. They aren't mutually exclusive.Originally posted by AaronMLMAO....Of course it's my number.
Not my log though.
I don't care one way or the other about this whole thing. I am simply pointing out that the video could not have been faked.
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Careful Chio...
Ya might end up on the "Hit" list.
LOL!

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Originally posted by Chio The PirateYARGH???? That don't be makin' much sense. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I don't care one way or the other about this whole thing. I am simply pointing out that the video could not have been faked.
The video is real, the log is not.
It's rather simple and from what I've been told about you....You're smarter than to fall for this kids shit.Comment
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Come on, Aaron. This isn't just going to go away. There aren't many things which makes a webmaster refuse to deal with someone in our industry like dishonestly and flat out lies.
The quicker you come out and admit the obvious, the quicker we can all move on.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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AaronM I am done attacking you...
No sport in it.
Now I am just an observer...

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Are you saying he altered the logs? Earlier in the thread, the contention was you havent messaged him at all and you had a friend back up that claim under the guise of being too busy shooting content.Originally posted by AaronMThe video is real, the log is not.
It seems your whole story is falling a part the longer this ruse goes on.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by Clicky_BucksCome on, Aaron. This isn't just going to go away. There aren't many things which makes a webmaster refuse to deal with someone in our industry like dishonestly and flat out lies.
The quicker you come out and admit the obvious, the quicker we can all move on.
So it won't go away....Seems to me that just increases his liability for his lies. Too bad he has nothing to collect a judgement from.
Those who have NOTHING to lose are often the most dangerous to deal with. This kid has nothing so he is really risking nothing and hoping to gain from it all.
Others have paid him off to shut him up but I refuse to do that. Let him run his mouth and tell lies. Karma is a bitch.
I ain't going nowhere.
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You sure that you want to associate yourself with a liar and thief like me?Originally posted by mediaAaron is my homie.. Aaron, schools gonna be starting for the wife soon in portland again.. that means you'll be seeing me more soon...
Remember when you advised me to pay the kid back even though he fucked up? Remember when I said "fuck that?"
Well.....We both knew this shit was gonna happen. It's just a risk you take when doing business the right way with those who do not.Comment
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Aaron:
1. Have you messaged SOS via ICQ in the last two weeks?
2. If you have, are you saying the logs posted are incorrect?
3. You are a smart man. If they are fraudulent logs, how on earth would one do that? I mean, your ICQ number and name are shown clear as day on a video.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Eh.. oh well.. I'm not worried about that.. I know that you're stand up... Us liars and thiefs like to hang out together anyways lol... SO whatever.. I'll let you know when her term starts big daddy!Originally posted by AaronMYou sure that you want to associate yourself with a liar and thief like me?
Remember when you advised me to pay the kid back even though he fucked up? Remember when I said "fuck that?"
Well.....We both knew this shit was gonna happen. It's just a risk you take when doing business the right way with those who do not.I'm here for the violence!Comment
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Originally posted by Clicky_BucksAre you saying he altered the logs? Earlier in the thread, the contention was you havent messaged him at all and you had a friend back up that claim under the guise of being too busy shooting content.
It seems your whole story is falling a part the longer this ruse goes on.
What the fuck are you talking about, troll?
I have not messaged him at all......For over a month. How does that stop him from altering his log to show that I have?
You know what? Never mind. I have no need to convince you because you mean fuck all to me.
In fact......I have no need to convince anybody of anything. I've had idiots like you on my dick for years and I'm still here, still getting business done.
Who are you again?
NOBODY.
C ya....Troll.
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Originally posted by mediaEh.. oh well.. I'm not worried about that.. I know that you're stand up... Us liars and thiefs like to hang out together anyways lol... SO whatever.. I'll let you know when her term starts big daddy!
Thick as thieves, we are.
Cool man. I'm in.Comment
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Originally posted by AaronMThe video is real, the log is not.
YARGH! Last post just to clear it up. The log, and the number are not mutually exclusive. Short of reverse engineering the software, I don't think the log showing your number could be faked. It's possible I guess. Damn crazy Russian's can do anything with software these days.
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SOn Of Sam worked for ILM.
Industrial Lights And Magic I guess.

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Please forgive me...I've never felt the need to fake an ICQ log but I have backed them up from time to time and even read them right from the log directory as text files. Seems to me that those files can easily be changed then viewed in the program.Originally posted by Chio The PirateYARGH! Last post just to clear it up. The log, and the number are not mutually exclusive. Short of reverse engineering the software, I don't think the log showing your number could be faked. It's possible I guess. Damn crazy Russian's can do anything with software these days.
Simple theory.
sonofsam and I have chatted quite a bit this year. Logs with my name and number surely exist.Comment
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Okay, so SOS is making a fool of himself coming back here over and over and over, and he may have stuck a "mug me" sign on his forehead in the first place, but a putz for going public? In all these horribly fascinating threads, I don't recall anything to suggest he was ever going to get the content he ordered.Originally posted by CDSmithClose, you could have had it all fixed if you'd have quit your crying about it, apologized for going public like a putz, paid him the rest of what you owed him and be done with it.
Had you done that he would have issued you the license, and would have been more willing to exchange a portion of your content for stuff more suted to your project.
And SOS may be the least sympathetic "injured party" I have ever come across. It's also clear it suited him to have an excuse to back out of his purchase. But I'm damn sure in a similar situation I wouldn't have parted with any more money until I had my hands on the content I was promised.
There has been a lot, not least SOS's ranting, to cloud the original issue that AaronM did not provide the content that SOS ordered. But I haven't seen that denied, which makes everything since - from both sides - irrelevant bullshit. SOS has made himself look like a clown and AaronM has come across as a big-mouthed assh*le. He has played keyboard warrior just as much as SOS, when if he wanted to stitch SOS up, the smart way - suspecting SOS couldn't pay - would have been to deliver the content that was ordered, then pull the licenses and go after SOS for the balance if he didn't pay.Comment
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Aaron, just give it up. To anyone with any common sense, it is obvious you sent him the messages. It's also obvious you will never admit this as you lie when cornered. It is just your personality.
BUT, the more you try to contend something that we all know is untrue and unreasonable, the worse you make yourself look.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Let's just say for shits and giggles, that someone made a fake log and then filmed it. Would that be hard to do? NOOOOOOOO. Especially in the world this world of computer talent and photoshop!!!Originally posted by Clicky_BucksAaron, just give it up. To anyone with any common sense, it is obvious you sent him the messages. It's also obvious you will never admit this as you lie when cornered. It is just your personality.
BUT, the more you try to contend something that we all know is untrue and unreasonable, the worse you make yourself look.
I am not taking sides here! I LOVE Aaron and I have nothing but laughter for the things that Son of Sam has done with the board.
BUT..........
Does it come down to ONE thing?
It all boils down to this:
BUSINESS!
A deal was made, a deal was broken.
LET IT GO!
Son of Sam you are young and so eager to gain respect in the industry, going about it in this way is not an easy path.
I like to surround myself with people smarter and more experienced than me. Aaron knows the ropes of the path you would like to travel. I suggest that having him as a friend would be better than having him as an enemy.
I know you are young and youth is wonderful. Trust me I hit 32 and I am feeling it. But mentally it is GREAT!!!
Take it from an old women and know this, life is short and fucking the people who are smarter and more experienced than you will only bring huge walls, like Berlin, that should have never been there in the first place!!!Last edited by Loryn; 07-10-2005, 12:29 AM.~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~
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Once again...So what if I want to threaten him? I would have no reason to hide it.
Appears to me that this little fucker is trying to bait me into attacking him after posting multiple bogus threats to supposedly show prior intention of me physically harming him.
Not a bad way to but a guy in jail if I ever did make it physical. Also not a bad way to try to persuade me from beating his ass should I so choose.
If only he would put this much effort and creativity into his business ventures......Comment
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Originally posted by jayeffThere has been a lot, not least SOS's ranting, to cloud the original issue that AaronM did not provide the content that SOS ordered. But I haven't seen that denied, which makes everything since - from both sides - irrelevant bullshit. SOS has made himself look like a clown and AaronM has come across as a big-mouthed assh*le. He has played keyboard warrior just as much as SOS, when if he wanted to stitch SOS up, the smart way - suspecting SOS couldn't pay - would have been to deliver the content that was ordered, then pull the licenses and go after SOS for the balance if he didn't pay.
okay, I am old, and the memory isn't always what I would hope it would be . . . . but I could have sworn SOS has had the content for months. He never paid the debt in USD ("I thought he meant $5,000 CDN"), thus never got the license.Comment
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Originally posted by jayeffOkay, so SOS is making a fool of himself coming back here over and over and over, and he may have stuck a "mug me" sign on his forehead in the first place, but a putz for going public? In all these horribly fascinating threads, I don't recall anything to suggest he was ever going to get the content he ordered.
And SOS may be the least sympathetic "injured party" I have ever come across. It's also clear it suited him to have an excuse to back out of his purchase. But I'm damn sure in a similar situation I wouldn't have parted with any more money until I had my hands on the content I was promised.
There has been a lot, not least SOS's ranting, to cloud the original issue that AaronM did not provide the content that SOS ordered. But I haven't seen that denied, which makes everything since - from both sides - irrelevant bullshit. SOS has made himself look like a clown and AaronM has come across as a big-mouthed assh*le. He has played keyboard warrior just as much as SOS, when if he wanted to stitch SOS up, the smart way - suspecting SOS couldn't pay - would have been to deliver the content that was ordered, then pull the licenses and go after SOS for the balance if he didn't pay.
Uh....I delivered the content to him TWICE. Before he made final payment he decided to liable me and infringe on my copyright...So I did pull his license before it was even issued.
I basically did what you are saying I should have done. Can't go after him for the balance because he's broke. Also have no reason to because since he libeled me and infringed on my copyrights, I will NEVER issue him a license anyway.Comment
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Originally posted by Clicky_BucksAaron, just give it up. To anyone with any common sense, it is obvious you sent him the messages. It's also obvious you will never admit this as you lie when cornered. It is just your personality.
BUT, the more you try to contend something that we all know is untrue and unreasonable, the worse you make yourself look.
OK.
Thanks for your input....Afterall, it means so much to me.
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Originally posted by AaronMUh....I delivered the content to him TWICE. Before he made final payment he decided to liable me and infringe on my copyright...So I did pull his license before it was even issued.
I basically did what you are saying I should have done. Can't go after him for the balance because he's broke. Also have no reason to because since he libeled me and infringed on my copyrights, I will NEVER issue him a license anyway.
Guess those memory cells still work.Comment
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SOS not pissed off any smart or experienced people in this biz yet in my opinion.Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.comTake it from an old women and know this, life is short and fucking the people who are smarter and more experienced than you will only bring huge walls, like Berlin, that should have never been there in the first place!!!
He should be calling the FBI though.

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Nicely summed upOriginally posted by AlienQGive Son Of Sam some credit.
For 19 he is kicking ass and taking numbers.
So far Son Of Sam has shown class and strength after loosing some $3600.00 bucks to a GFY predator and looser.
We all make mistakes starting out Son Of Sam, your on your way to better things bro and within the past 6 month you have achieved more than AaronM ever will in life...
You got a great site, a hot girl and probably will find more down the road.
So shake this shit off and keep movin
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SOS got content. What he did not apparently get was the content he ordered, hence CDSmith writing earlier in this thread that AaronM was at some point "...willing to exchange a portion of your content for stuff more suted to your project". If you want the details, they were in the thread that SOS started here about 6 weeks ago.Originally posted by baddogokay, I am old, and the memory isn't always what I would hope it would be . . . . but I could have sworn SOS has had the content for months. He never paid the debt in USD ("I thought he meant $5,000 CDN"), thus never got the license.
It's obvious neither side cares about legalities, only about p*ssing into the wind on here. AaronM was supposed to be paid up front, but set that requirement aside by delivering even though he had not been paid. Then by failing to deliver what was ordered, he became the one to breach their contract. As such, not only doesn't he have any legal basis for chasing the balance, but if SOS had any sense, he would have sued for the return of what he had paid.
Don't get me wrong, SOS isn't clean in this. It seems like he couldn't have paid. But if you sold me a TV advertised as having a remote and delivered it without the remote, that small omission means you have no right to be paid until you put it right. If you think that my circumstances have changed since I placed the order, you have the chance to take the TV back, refund any deposit I paid, and walk away. Otherwise the onus is still on you to complete your end of the deal and then chase me for what I owe.Comment
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Originally posted by jayeffSOS got content. What he did not apparently get was the content he ordered,
Well fuck me running....I was under the impression that he wanted to buy all of the non-exclusive amateur photo content that I had available.....And low and behold, that's exactly what I sent him.
TWICE.Comment
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Jayeff: whats your icq, i have something i quickly need to ask you (important)
btw the deal was to get the paysite up and running before i even paid the remainder... regardless... i'm not after the money... how many times do i have to post it again, do you not remember my thread saying "fuck you, keep my money" ? stop trying to make it seem like you are a victim in this... you have 3600US of mine, and i'm not even after it, okay?
Yah keep dropping lightspeeds name to add credibility to your words... if you havn't noticed your word doesn't mean shit aaron... i showed proof that you lied.. you know what that means? means your word isn't taken seriously anymore
and whats a man without his word? a bitch. don't matter if you keep denying it here left right and center. me and you both know the truth, and most people know that i didn't fake that video and that its real.I like turtles.Comment
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Wrong again, i asked for Cute teen girl next door content... and when i posted samples on gfy to let people see if it was or not, thats what got your panties in a knot.. because people would see the GARBAGE you sent me.Originally posted by AaronMWell fuck me running....I was under the impression that he wanted to buy all of the non-exclusive amateur photo content that I had available.....And low and behold, that's exactly what I sent him.
TWICE.
you showed me a sample page on www.ampcontent.com of what the package consisted of.... what you delivered was something else.. then you claimed that you told me EXACTLY what was being sent, then retracted later when you offered to refund the bald girl sets... whats wrong? i thought you told me exactly what i was getting?
lets not get back into the content though, thats over and done with... fact remains that i showed proof you are a liar. Meaning your word doesn't mean anything anymore.I like turtles.Comment
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dude, he isnt acting like a victim.,....your the one acting as the victim.....you were, but it was your fault.....all Aaron seems to want you to do is drop it...and everyone else.....honestly, has your production or your net profit gone down in the last month from allt he time you spend trying to build the anti-Aaron bandwagon?Originally posted by sonofsamstop trying to make it seem like you are a victim in this... you have 3600US of mine, and i'm not even after it, okay?
put your energy to good use.....shit, go out get a fuckin camera and get your own fuckin content......he wanted to refund the baldies because he probly at one time tryed to make you happy before you flew off the deepend and started bashing his biz and name......you fucked up....he did probly the most dickheadish thing he could have......but you attacked his reputation, and you did it here.....repeatedly.....
get a lawyer or shut up.....go fuck that blonde chick.....focus on other positive shit.....good fuckin god......Comment
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so if i order a package deal of white girl content, and he sends me 30 black girl sets and 1 white girl set its okay?Originally posted by baddogYou are wrong again . . . .package deals are just that . . . package deals.
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Are you kidding me? i have dropped it... ever since i made that thread telling aaron to keep his 3600 i've stayed out of his threads and everything... even after he threatened me on icq AGAIN i didn't do anything... but when he started making references here about it, thats when i said something back... but instead of shitting in someone elses thread, i made a new thread about itOriginally posted by Deejall Aaron seems to want you to do is drop it...and everyone else.....
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nah nah nah, i call BS.....just let it go.....dont let it get to you dude....obviuosly it does....i dont see him calling victim is all.....
and since you dont like question dodgers......seriously...has yoru production gone down this past month? profit?
just curious, not a competancey question?Comment
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proffit last month = 0Originally posted by Deejnah nah nah, i call BS.....just let it go.....dont let it get to you dude....obviuosly it does....i dont see him calling victim is all.....
and since you dont like question dodgers......seriously...has yoru production gone down this past month? profit?
just curious, not a competancey question?
proffit this month = 0
www.juliablue.com JUST went through paycom compliance on friday.. so i'm waiting on visa approval now before i officially launch it...
like i said i don't lie. I could have made up some bullshit about doing okay etc... but fact is, i underestimated how long it would take to get my TAX ID from the IRS since i'm canadian and can't get it expedited over the phone.. that set me back a month... but should be ready to go this monday or tuesday, thanks for your concern
that answer your question?I like turtles.Comment
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btw i have enough money to be able to pay my rent and all other living expenses.... but so far am in about 11k .... (not including the 3600 i lost with aaron) into my site... but a lot of that cost was initial startup costs... i.e.. visa fee... forming a corporation and other bullshit.... my next site won't cost nearly as much to start... so 15k roughly with no ROI yet... but launch is soon so wish me luck
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