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07-08-2005, 09:00 PM

Talk about massively underrated, this guy is a guitar legend.

Warning you must be over the age of 25 to more than likely have a remote clue about how good this guy is.

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07-08-2005, 09:01 PM

are his initials gg?
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07-08-2005, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by 3AM eternal

are his initials gg?

not they are MS

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07-08-2005, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by 3AM eternal

are his initials gg?

you got it, his name is gg.jpg!

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07-08-2005, 09:05 PM

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not they are MS

haha.. good ol' msg
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07-08-2005, 09:10 PM

There is only one god... His Name is Eddie....

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07-08-2005, 09:12 PM

Looks like the dude from Metallica

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07-08-2005, 09:12 PM

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haha.. good ol' msg

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07-08-2005, 09:13 PM

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There is only one god... His Name is Eddie....

Van_Halen

Eddie is phenomenal, top 3 easy, ever to pick up a guitar. I just love Schenkers sound

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07-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Who was this guy with? I'll check them out.

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07-08-2005, 09:16 PM

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Who was this guy with? I'll check them out.

Michael Schenker, M.S.G aka UFO. Go find Gimme your love and Anytime by Michael Schenker Group. Now mind you this is NOT crazy metal thrash madness, its good ole rock and roll

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07-08-2005, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Michael Schenker, M.S.G aka UFO. Go find Gimme your love and Anytime by Michael Schenker Group. Now mind you this is NOT crazy metal thrash madness, its good ole rock and roll

brother is in the Scropions?

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07-08-2005, 09:20 PM

A great guitar player
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07-08-2005, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

brother is in the Scropions?

nah, nah UFO then M.S.G I think im gettin old lol

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07-08-2005, 09:24 PM

I called it-
Lov Shenker Group-

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07-08-2005, 09:26 PM

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I called it-
Lov Shenker Group-

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07-08-2005, 09:27 PM

Not my kind of music.
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07-08-2005, 09:30 PM

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Not my kind of music.

That's unfortunate. How old are you?

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07-08-2005, 09:37 PM

Jimmy Page for sure

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07-08-2005, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by keyboard warrior

Jimmy Page for sure

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07-08-2005, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Veterans Day

nah, nah UFO then M.S.G I think im gettin old lol

man you had me second guessing myself. Sure his brother Rudolf Schenker plays guitar for Scorpions.

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07-08-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

man you had me second guessing myself. Sure his brother Rudolf Schenker plays guitar for Scorpions.

right right I thought you meant mike did, lol

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07-08-2005, 09:53 PM

I remember when that homo looked like Gunnar Nelson.
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07-08-2005, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by chymp

I remember when that homo looked like Gunnar Nelson.

you sure you're not talking about Adrian vandenberg?

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07-08-2005, 10:00 PM

No idea. sorry.

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07-08-2005, 10:01 PM

I thought the god was

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07-08-2005, 10:03 PM

That would be a huge no on Garcia.

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07-08-2005, 10:03 PM

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I thought the god was

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07-08-2005, 10:06 PM

No. I know who Michael Schenker is. Vandenburg never had straight blonde hair.

http://www.80srockphotos.com/byArtis...l_Schenker.htm

It's pretty big.
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07-08-2005, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Greg Gaskell

I thought the god was

No. That's the god of fried chicken and ice cream.
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07-08-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by chymp

No. I know who Michael Schenker is. Vandenburg never had straight blonde hair.

http://www.80srockphotos.com/byArtis...l_Schenker.htm

It's pretty big.

looks kinda nelson to me. but hey, you were right. I never remembered MS looking like that.

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07-08-2005, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Michael Schenker, M.S.G aka UFO. Go find Gimme your love and Anytime by Michael Schenker Group. Now mind you this is NOT crazy metal thrash madness, its good ole rock and roll

Lights out, lights out in London....
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07-08-2005, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Andre

Lights out, lights out in London....

I like the live version, Lights out in chicago

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07-08-2005, 11:14 PM

Michael Schenker reached his zenith with UFO. While MSG produced some respectable albums, his best years were unquestionably during the years he was in UFO (I saw him play with both bands).

Seems like some of you don't know that Michael was also in the Scorpions with his older brother Rudolf, not once but twice (on the first album and again post-UFO on the "Lovedrive" album).

Personally, I always thought that Ulrich Roth (who replaced Michael Schenker in the Scorpions) had way more passion in his playing, and the Scorpions enjoyed their biggest commercial success with Matthias Jabs on lead guitar.

It's been well documented that Michael's alcohol and substance abuse got him kicked out of many bands, and prevented him from taking a place in bands of even greater stature (he was once slated to replace Joe Perry in Aerosmith, and was considered as a replacement in Ozzy Osbourne's group after Randy Rhodes died, however his prediliction for drunken and erratic behavior squashed those opportunities).

Still he was a kick butt guitarist in his prime.

Time to put on some UFO...

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07-08-2005, 11:22 PM

It is refreshing talking good music and good guitar. Kudos VD

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07-08-2005, 11:26 PM

I only recognized his guitar.
That did not change so much as he did.

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07-08-2005, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

It is refreshing talking good music and good guitar. Kudos VD

Agreed.

It's been awhile since I've played some UFO (on vinyl no less).

Just one thing...whatever his appearance, Jerry Garcia was no slouch on guitar, or banjo (or even his first instrument, piano) for that matter. What some of you may not know, is that Jerry was missing a finger on his picking hand (and he often finger picked, especially when he played bluegrass, which he loved).

Look closely at his pictures - he has no middle finger; he lost it an accident as a teen (his brother chopped it off while they were splitting some wood). This didn't stop him from becoming a rock legend as well as a well-respected jazz guitarist during his day.

Anyway, honestly, Jerry on his good nights cooked with the best of guitarists. Try and play his stuff. It's not easy. Few could improvise like him.

Aside from being a great guitarist, Jerry was also an accomplished fine artist. I have a few of his lithos, and even some ties that he designed.

Now, I'm even going to have a little Ben and Jerry's "Cherry Garcia" in his honor.

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(Delivered August 13, 1995, The Jerry Garcia Memorial, Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, California.)

Jerry, my friend,
you've done it again,
even in your silence
the familiar pressure
comes to bear, demanding
I pull words from the air
with only this morning
and part of the afternoon
to compose an ode worthy
of one so particular
about every turn of phrase,
demanding it hit home
in a thousand ways
before making it his own,
and this I can't do alone.
Now that the singer is gone,
where shall I go for the song?

Without your melody and taste
to lend an attitude of grace
a lyric is an orphan thing,
a hive with neither honey's taste
nor power to truly sting.

What choice have I but to dare and
call your muse who thought to rest
out of the thin blue air,
that out of the field of shared time,
a line or two might chance to shine --

As ever when we called,
in hope if not in words,
the muse descends.

How should she desert us now?
Scars of battle n her brow,
bedraggled feathers on her wings
and yet she sings, she sings!

May she bear thee to thy rest,
the ancient bower of flowers
beyond the solitude of days,
the tyranny of hours --
the wreath of shining laurel lie
upon your shaggy head,
bestowing power to play the lyre
to legions of the dead.

If some part of that music
is heard in deepest dream,
or on some breeze of Summer
a snatch of golden theme,
we'll know you live inside us
with love that never parts
our good old Jack O' Diamonds
become the King of Hearts.

I feel your silent laughter
at sentiments so bold
that dare to step across the line
to tell what must be told,
so I'll just say I love you
which I never said before
and let it go at that old friend,
the rest you may ignore.

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07-08-2005, 11:58 PM

Tony Iomi is missing two fingers on his fretting hand.
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07-09-2005, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

That would be a huge no on Garcia.

I defy you to name another guitar player whose sound is so uniquely and singularly identifiable to its creator, where you would know from a mile away who it was without fail, with the exception of Hendrix.

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07-09-2005, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Greg Gaskell

I thought the god was

You are correct.

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07-09-2005, 12:17 AM

Saw him in '78 with U.F.O. Back then he was always refered to as "Fuckin' Schenker, Man"

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07-09-2005, 12:21 AM

Well, Yngwie has a very unique and identical sound that's uniquely his, but whether you find it pleasant or not is another question :D

Randy Rhodes and Rocky George are in the same boat :D - throw Eric Johnson's in there too for 'too much of every effect too often but in a tasteful way' as well.

My favourite few guitarists of the 'hard rock' hair band era:

1) Rik Emmett (Triumph)
2) Steve Vai (for his David Lee Roth and early solo stuff)
3) Larry Mitchell (ya had to see this guy to believe him - nuts)
4) Yngwie Malmsteen (played exactly the same way on every song, but man was it impressive)
5) Marty Friedman (solely for his stuff with Jason Becker and Cacophony, in Megadeth he gained technique and restraint)
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07-09-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by iwantchixx

Tony Iomi is missing two fingers on his fretting hand.

I know you mean Tony Iommi - he is an awesome left-handed guitarist. In his case he only lost the tips of two fingers, and then had plastic tips installed as replacements. Not taking anything away from his accomplishments, but just pointing out a few details.

Tony developed some awesome licks with Black Sabbath. Oddly enough he lists as one of his inspirations Django Reinhardt, a famous jazz guitarist who died in the early 50's, who also lost two fingers in an accident, and whom also developed his own unique style of guitar playing.

When tendons in my (right) picking hand were severed when I was a teenager, I also learned to play with just three fingers (my thumb, index and middle fingers) after hearing about how Django overcame his adversity. I didn't learn about Tony Iommi having been similarly hurt and influenced until years later.

I'm not even putting myself anywhere near the class of guitarist as Tony Iommi or Django Reinhardt, I am merely pointing out how people can overcome some of life's misfortunes and still follow their dreams.

One of my main inspirations on guitar was actually Lindsey Buckingham (Fleetwood Mac), since he mostly finger picks everything (to the point that his fingers often bleed while he is playing), and he also does not read music.

I've been playing guitar probably since before most of you were born, and I continue to play every single day (I practice while taking time out to watch the news each day, lol).

Music is one of the highest art forms and brings me pleasure every day. To me it is never about who is better, but about the beautiful diversity in styles and form.

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07-09-2005, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by gregalicious

Well, Yngwie has a very unique and identical sound that's uniquely his, but whether you find it pleasant or not is another question :D

Randy Rhodes and Rocky George are in the same boat :D - throw Eric Johnson's in there too for 'too much of every effect too often but in a tasteful way' as well.

My favourite few guitarists of the 'hard rock' hair band era:

1) Rik Emmett (Triumph)
2) Steve Vai (for his David Lee Roth and early solo stuff)
3) Larry Mitchell (ya had to see this guy to believe him - nuts)
4) Yngwie Malmsteen (played exactly the same way on every song, but man was it impressive)
5) Marty Friedman (solely for his stuff with Jason Becker and Cacophony, in Megadeth he gained technique and restraint)
6) Richie Blackmore, the father of shred rhythm and leads

My favorite guitarists changes all the time, however these people I consider quite good, and worthy of being on the list of best ever (in no particular order):

Robert Johnson (inspiration to Hendrix and a score of others)
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Dave Navarro
Joe Satriani
Jeff Beck
Duane Allman
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Tony Iommi
Eddie Van Halen
Carlos Santana
Joe Walsh
Robert Fripp
Frank Zappa
John McLaughlin
Andres Segovia
Carlos Montoya
BB King
Les Paul
Chet Atkins
Django Reinhardt
Pete Townsend
Neil Young
Jerry Garcia
Kurt Cobain
Andy Summers
Kim Thayil
Kirk Hammett
Steve Howe
Jorma Kaukonen
Mick Ronsen
Marc Bolen
The Edge
Ry Cooder
George Thoroughgood
Rory Gallagher
Wes Montgomery
Stanley Jordan
Larry Coryell
George Benson
Larry Carlton
Steve Morse
Yngwie Malmsteen
David Gilmour
Steve Howe
Robert Cray
Johnny Winter
Rick Derringer
Todd Rundgren
John Williams
Julian Bream
Kaki King
Robin Trower
Steve Vai
Randy Rhoads
Mark Knopfler
George Harrison
John Petrucci
Uli Roth
Michael Schenker
Alvin Lee
Adrian Belew
Leslie West
Billy Gibbons
Ronnie Montrose
T-Bone Walker
Charlie Hunter
Pat Metheny
Lindsey Buckingham
Jerry Cantrell
Billy Corgan
Brian May
Alex Lifeson
Angus Young
Ted Nugent

I'm sure there are many that I missed...

But hey...it's only rock n' roll (but I like it),

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07-09-2005, 01:42 AM

Joe Satriani Is the guitar GOD
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07-09-2005, 01:44 AM

i missed out on seeing him live last year, fucking sucks
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07-09-2005, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

My favorite guitarists changes all the time, however these people I consider quite good, and worthy of being on the list of best ever (in no particular order):

Robert Johnson (inspiration to Hendrix and a score of others)
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Dave Navarro
Joe Satriani
Jeff Beck
Duane Allman
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Tony Iommi
Eddie Van Halen
Carlos Santana
Joe Walsh
Robert Fripp
Frank Zappa
John McLaughlin
Andres Segovia
Carlos Montoya
BB King
Les Paul
Chet Atkins
Django Reinhardt
Pete Townsend
Neil Young
Jerry Garcia
Kurt Cobain
Andy Summers
Kim Thayil
Kirk Hammett
Steve Howe
Jorma Kaukonen
Mick Ronsen
Marc Bolen
The Edge
Ry Cooder
George Thoroughgood
Rory Gallagher
Wes Montgomery
Stanley Jordan
Larry Coryell
George Benson
Larry Carlton
Steve Morse
Yngwie Malmsteen
David Gilmour
Steve Howe
Robert Cray
Johnny Winter
Rick Derringer
Todd Rundgren
John Williams
Julian Bream
Kaki King
Robin Trower
Steve Vai
Randy Rhoads
Mark Knopfler
George Harrison
John Petrucci
Uli Roth
Michael Schenker
Alvin Lee
Adrian Belew
Leslie West
Billy Gibbons
Ronnie Montrose
T-Bone Walker
Charlie Hunter
Pat Metheny
Lindsey Buckingham
Jerry Cantrell
Billy Corgan
Brian May
Alex Lifeson
Angus Young
Ted Nugent

I'm sure there are many that I missed...

But hey...it's only rock n' roll (but I like it),

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07-09-2005, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

You missed Slash.

My brother is on tour with Ted Nugent this summer as drum tech. Looking forward to seeing him when they come to the PNW in August.

I was never overly impressed with Slash's work with G 'n R - Axl was always too whiney for my liking (although I love "Welcome to the Jungle" and a few other songs), however with Velvet Revolver he seems to be able to showcase his licks better.

The PNW has some great venues...I've been to a few shows at the Gorge. I also saw a great BB King show on the waterfront with Mt. Ranier looking beautiful in the distance during sunset (a nice clear day).

Lots of great club shows downstairs at the Crocodile Cafe during visits to Seattle back in the grunge days too...

I also recall a show with Winton Marsellies at the Key arena.

Not to show my age, but since I was born in Seattle, my very first live concert (before I was 10) was The Righteous Brothers, with Sergio Mendes and the Brazil '66 as the opening act at Seattle Coliseum as it was then called.

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07-09-2005, 02:27 AM

Can anybody recommend some songs from Jeff Beck that showcase his style? His name always crops up in guitar conversations but I've never heard anything of his (that I'm aware of).
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